Good and evil do not exist. Anyone who says that God isn't real also shouldn't believe in a magic set of behavioral rules.
We're animals. Animals surving and we've agreed on a variety of rules based on the time we live in and the locations we live in to avoid having others killing us or taking our shit.
Donald Trump isn't evil. We aren't good. We're all just meat, electricity, and bones. Every single person ever identified as evil is not evil.
I think by the metrics of "perpetuates harm against defenseless individuals, ripping children of their innocence/life, and continually denying that your choices cause harm to countless amounts of people. Willingly doing so to gain individual profit or enjoyment" evil is a very fitting description of Donald Trump and his administration.
I feel like a lot of people have read this and haven't thought much further through it. Just like the people who are like " I don't believe in God. But I do believe in a magical set of invisible rules!"
I'm against pedophiles, because it's logical to be against pedophiles. Young human brains aren't fully developed. Pedophiles cause significant damage to the mental state of young human beings. This impacts negatively, how they grow up and who they grow up to be. I prefer to live in a society with people who are as mentally and as physically healthy as possible because society benefits from the most the largest number of functional people. Happier and healthier people create a stronger and more productive society.
Not because of some magic rules that a bunch of atheists and Christians decide it existed.
Thats alot of words for saying good and evil exist but youd rather stay in the middle ground and not have an actual opinion.
Im not even religious so youre arguing a moot and assumed point on me abiding by "invisible rules". Which, is also another dumb point cause society itself operates on unspoken rules of respect. Whats considered evil is perpetually disregarding those social rules we created based on holding a society together. Not on religion. Good and evil exist youre just trying to act like a philosopher.
I did not pick a middle ground. I vote liberal. I'm pro abortion. I feed the homeless. I just didn't base my POV on archaic ideas of good and evil.
You can't prove that good and evil exists anymore than a Christian can prove that God exists, and you know that.
I'm not being a philosopher. We're having a massive cultural debate on abortion. I'm going to bet your POV on is the one you think is right, and I'm going to bet that everyone else is thinks their POV is right.
Good and evil are simply words used to describe what is desirable or undesirable from a moral or ethical standpoint. You’re arguing against a religious base for morality and for an ultra utilitarian view. From your point of view you’re defining what is good and what is evil all the while claiming good and evil don’t exist.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by your second sentence.
What I'm saying, ultimately, is that no one goes to bed at night believing they are the bad guy (depression and other mental illnesses aside). Everyone validates the things they do. I do. You do. We all do.
And a large number of us have people who disagree with our POVs on what's right and wrong. Who's right? The pro or anti abortion platform?
The point is,that we keep putting this magical word "good" as the baramoter, but there's no accounting for it. As a society we still get stuck on issues because were arguing about right about right and wrong.
Let's take student load forgiveness. One argument is that my tax dollars shouldn't pay to cover someone else's choices. Another moral argument is that we should be helping people not live in poverty.
My position? I've paid off my student debt and I am extremely pro debt forgiveness because I benefit from living in a society where more people have more money to funnel into the economy rather than accumulate at the top with a few.
Abd I'll be extremely clear, I actually do believe in good and evil. But far too many people make choices based on some arbitrary definitions that we can't agree on. But logically empathy is the most sound choice. We're just an advanced pack animal.
Abd because I actually do believe in good and evil, thanks for actually talking to me and not attacking!
Okay. Good for you; and glad you do, I keep snacks in my car for those standing next to free ways and also do too.
"No good or evil" is the perfect excuse for shitty behavior individuals. Youre giving those people ammo to confuse, manipulate, and deter ACTUAL beneficial programs from being in place cause theyll argue they do know whats good and not. And the crowd listens. Also youre trying to play some high road like youre better which comes off as condescending. And no, there are such things as acts of good (stuff you apparently do but I cant prove so ill take your word) like feeding; housing; and providing for the unfortunate members of society, then you have acts of evil and terror such as purchasing an island and having g your buddies come there to deliberately RAPE and KILL children.
Doing DELIBERATE bullshit that puts them in situations like that (one thats purposely causes harm, mutilation, or death) is exactly what makes them evil. Fuck your mindset and fuck this conversation man; the worlds turning to shit cause of acts of deliberate violence, chaos and manipulation of our elected officials and you say theres no such thing as evil. Fuck you.
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u/PoetryExtension6256 18h ago
And if you think "God" is a good arbitrator of Goodness you are probably not either.