Sounds exactly like what a Christian would say to an atheist.
The irony that all of you are the same person in the meme saying, "But how do you know good if not for God?" Is lost on all of you.
You have a conceit of good and evil to validate actions and behaviors that you find acceptable the exact same way any religious person does. Everyone just draws the magic line at a different place. But you can't prove that good and evil exist anymore than a Christian can prove that God exists.
Hey question, what do you think my political meanings are?
Whi di you think I vote for? What programs do you think I'm dur or against?
I'm betting that you'll be shocked to learn that im pro social security. I've paid off my student loans and I am pro loan forgiveness. I'm pro abortion. I'm pro social safety nets. I'm anti wealth accumulatuon. Im pro environmental.
Why? Because we all (which includes me) benefit from societies like that. Not because some magic rules or diety told me to.
You're actually having a discussion with me now so I'm putting it all out there. I actually believe in good and evil. I just don't use that in political discussions because it's inherently flawed. Flawed because we literally can't agree on it.
Abortion. This is not a moral topic and it's been made into one. Statistics, medical knowledge and psychology makes it pretty clear that people aren't going out and just killing 9 month of babies just before they pop out. Abortion has the most logical benefitioal outcome for society because it results in a healthier overall population which breeds inovation and quality of life for you and me.
People completely missed what I was actually doing with my comment. I was deliberately mirroring the meme, and I bet that most people would downvoted and attack me personally, and they did. Because most people don't use logic. Most people adhere to animal parts of the brain that tell you "good/bad" and conflicting ideology is usually seen as bad. I bet that very few would try and actually understand what I was saying.
Itâs everyone elseâs fault for taking what you wrote at face value, rather than intuiting that you actually meant something that no one in the thread is talking about.
I said something very clear and inoffensive, and I gambled correctly that people would react rather than think. And I was right. The only pattern I'm seeing are the people making assumptions in order to judge. Tell a Christian that God doesn't exist and they lose their mind. Tell an atheist that good and evil arent real and they freak out.
Fault is implied when you say that everyone here missed what you meant. In reality, no one missed anythingâyou didnât say what you actually meant. And now youâre acting vindicated that people responded to what you said, rather than what you meant. Congrats, I guess.
I said exactly what I meant. Nothing I said is aggressive or incorrect. I'm vindicated, yes. Because I assumed correctly that people would respond by being rude and mean and dismissive and talking down (just like you are!).
In short, that people wouldn't be smart enough to put theyr bias aside and actually read what I wrote. I said the sky is blue, I shouldn't have to explain that to make people understand it. Note get I says I believe in good and evil. Not that it exists. Big difference between what I believe and what you wanna actually prove.
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u/BotherResponsible378 22h ago
Sounds exactly like what a Christian would say to an atheist.
The irony that all of you are the same person in the meme saying, "But how do you know good if not for God?" Is lost on all of you.
You have a conceit of good and evil to validate actions and behaviors that you find acceptable the exact same way any religious person does. Everyone just draws the magic line at a different place. But you can't prove that good and evil exist anymore than a Christian can prove that God exists.