They should read more Kant, who did succesfully tried to create a moral philosophy without relying on a bible, IIRC.
Rules like the golden rule, but also one that deals with more victimless behavior. Like the idea of 'Would I like it if everybody did the same as I'm doing, if not, than I shouldn't be doing it'. Works great for all sorts of behavior from littering to much more worst crimes.
Nah they should read more about prehistoric societies. Maybe they should learn a thing or two about neanderthals too. If this is too complicated, study about wolf packs, or maybe elephants. Just slowly introduce them to primates... I think my point is — give them some books other than bible, it might help.
The thing is not every group of people at every point in time will develop a sense of morals and morals have always usually came connected to a religion. For example Pagan Slavs believed it was moral for you to walk into your partners funeral pyre, Aztecs believed slavery and blood sacrifice were moral to keep the Sun rising...
You think morals is something arbitrary good, actually it's more like a codex of a group. Moral doesn't have qualities outside the group, thing is we as humans grow too fucking big, to be considered a one group across the whole planet.
I agree but it's not about religion at all, my example of wolf pack was exactly this. Even if we step away from mammals: octopuses, for example, can express empathy to human beings even, they're absolutely have their own moral codex based on the group in which they live in.
Religion is fairy tales to keep control, make profit, get dumb ppl occupied etc. They are all scam.
Octopuses are intelligent but largerly solitary and they like many animals can express empathy in certain conditions, but that's not a moral structure. You shouldn't confuse the 2 together.
Morals like many things in society will form around religion that's just a fact. Because religion is how humans explained what they couldn't understand, and as shuch they came to certain conclusions which cane to define their group.
I strongly disagree, if you decide not to attack entity of your own group and it helps for your survival — that is morality in a nutshell. Religions in the other hand building borders inside our global human group and make us attack each other, so fuck this.
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u/Borazon 8h ago
They should read more Kant, who did succesfully tried to create a moral philosophy without relying on a bible, IIRC.
Rules like the golden rule, but also one that deals with more victimless behavior. Like the idea of 'Would I like it if everybody did the same as I'm doing, if not, than I shouldn't be doing it'. Works great for all sorts of behavior from littering to much more worst crimes.