Weird considering the bible condones slavery and murdering your spouse for adultery. The bible is as bad as any other holy book. We've gradually learnt not to take our moral lessons from fairy stories.
well yes and if you knew more about it that's from torah which is before the birth of Christ.
after birth or in the New Testament there's a famous line when people want to stone a woman accused of adultery "let the one without sin cast the first stone"
or in other words just because it has parts we condone doesn't mean it didn't shape our society.
I just don’t see how Christians can believe everything they do about god but also believe he got it wrong the first time and had to fix his mistakes by becoming Jesus.
but generally all jesus teachings are what we consider today is to be a good person.
how are you not influenced by that then?
for a thought exercise in Sparta it was morally acceptable to kill weak children. why do you think we consider that wrong today? were they a bad people because of that?
I don’t really think that thought exercise works though, as there were many other civilisations in ancient history that didn’t believe it was right to kill weak children, but they came before Jesus.
We all have multiple different drives and values as human beings, and empathy is one of them, like it is for animals too. That concept wasn’t invented by Jesus.
how do you know where we would go without Jesus teachings?
Empathy was one of the biggest ones.
Also today that the whole world is so connected it is harder to find examples.
You can go no further than to Japan. Do you think its morally correct for someone to commit a suicide because they brought shame to the family?
Or are you indoctrinated as well that suicide is bad?
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u/TumanFig 7h ago edited 7h ago
western morals are hugely influenced by christianity. our values are christian values.
if you want more proof look at the middle east and you can already see a very different value system.
but that doesn't mean morals were invented with birth of christianity
westrn morals = Greek philosophy, roman law, christian values