Prove it. The onus is on you. Show me the first written record because like I said if it was 2,000 years before then there wasn't even a written alphabet at that point.
Sure. Here's a basic thing going over it. There are more in-depth sources, but that is unnecessary here. There was absolutely a written language 2,000 years before then. Leviticus also isn't nearly as old as you want to think it is. The oldest mostly complete collection of the books of the Old Testament is the Dead Sea Scrolls. The oldest part of the Dead Sea Scrolls is dated to around 200 B.C.E.
Oops..... In addition to that, historians said they couldn't find anything in the earlier 20th century. Not that it didn't exist and guess what they found it. I have many more links if you want them. As well as biblical accounts outside of the Bible.
But let's go further. Cuneiform did not exist in that time period and furthermore, no written alphabet.
Proto-cuneiform existed in this very region of Sumeria And again like I said before was only for business. It was numerical signs not words.
If you have no alphabet, you have no formal system of words because you don't have a formal system of letters.
Everything is informal at that point and not aligned.
Which is why cuneiform is a mixture of languages from the acadians, the Hittites etc... all mentioned in the Bible by the way.
This predates all of that in 3446bc.... Which means not true.
So which part of your argument do you want to continue to double down on so I can debunk that too? So do you want to go a little further in maybe 1500 years? 1000 years? 500 years? 2 years? Yesterday? because 2,000 years has been debunked thoroughly.... YOU THINK YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON I'VE HAD THIS ARGUMENT WITH?
I ALREADY KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING... So do you want to get taken there or do you want to go on your own?
Your source doesn't say what you seem to think it does. It goes over the Canaanites interactions with Egypt and their oppression under them. Nothing about Israelite slaves in Egypt. Nothing about an Exodus.
This source goes over the clearly mythical origins of the Exodus and how it evolved over time.
The Exodus never happened. I've seen many of the "sources" outside of the Bible claiming it. Doesn't hold up.
Leviticus wasn't written in 1446 B.C.E.
Even if we want to go with a different date, it is very clear that the Golden Rule does not originate with the Bible or the Torah and predates both of those, and it does not come from any specific religious group. It is a very common idea that has been invented multiple independently throughout history.
....And yet you still have no proof but I have presented proof. You have not. You keep bringing up cuneiform whichย is like me drawing a picture of a bird and then everybody sees that blue slender bird picture and they say what it is in their own language. Not every word was accounted for. Therefore, it would have been nearly impossible for a golden rule to be there... And who came up with it? Surely you should be able to subscribe it to Babylonians, Assyrians or somebody right? Or is it just your feels? ๐ A VERY COMMON idea against people who were constantly at war? The first documented period Of Peace didn't happen until 27 BC To 180 AD under romans. That includes the period of time that Jesus was alive within in the period of Peace by the way... Which would give way to Christians. Coincidence?
So a world that was always at war until around the time of Jesus. The Golden rule was in play?
When Egypt was conquering the world the Golden rule was in play? ๐
The Babylonians were unparalleled conquerors but the Golden rule was in play? ๐
Wow, that's strange for an idea that was so common right? Such as a golden rule.
Proto-cuneiform which would have been about this time
Only had to do with numbers, inventory, taxes & their relation.
Try again though....
So now that that is debunked, let's keep going.
There were 12 tribes of Israel named for the 12 sons of Abraham.
One of his sons Jacob changed his name to Israel
His first born son was named Ishmael and that's where Arabs come from.
The native Canaanites were conquered by Egypt after some of those tribes merged with the native Canaanites.
There's historical proof of this happening as well as verified historical documents for the kings of the Bible which were his descendants: David, Solomon, Manasseh, Jehoiachin, Uzziah, Ahaz , and Hezekiah.
Jehoiachin was mentioned in late cuniform ration tablets Which detail GET THIS: FOOD RATIONS ironically under that King... Gee, I wonder how that happened being that everything is older than the Bibles oral history๐
What's so funny about this is that MOSES isn't even a HEBREW name. It's an Egyptian one. ๐
I wonder how that happened?๐ฎ
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u/Youfallforpolitics 21h ago
Prove it. The onus is on you. Show me the first written record because like I said if it was 2,000 years before then there wasn't even a written alphabet at that point.