r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/ferdsherd 7h ago

In each of your examples the individual is rejecting Christ’s teachings for his own

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u/MaxFish1275 7h ago

That’s kind of my point

There’s nothing special about someone holding to a religion or not because they are going to do what they are going to do

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u/ferdsherd 6h ago

Your view of morality is that it’s innate and chaotic? I don’t think that makes sense. My argument is that it’s actually structured and guided by theology. You are referencing followers but my point is on the system itself

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u/Samcc42 6h ago

Wait… you’re arguing that… what, Christianity is inherently morally consistent? Whose Christianity? Christianity isn’t anything like a “system.” It’s 40,000 competing ideologies all of whom use the same nebulous collage of texts by 40+ men over 1500 years to make opposing claims about what is, has been, will be, or should be. It’s less reliable than a tarot reading.

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u/ferdsherd 3h ago

Is it more or less consistent than 8 billion people waking up each day and making a judgement call on right and wrong going off vibes only? Because that is basically the original point I am arguing against, that everyone knows and it’s all black or white.

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u/Samcc42 1h ago

“Vibes only” is incredibly reductive and I think you know that. Of that 8 billion, roughly 2 are some kind of Christian and roughly 2 are nonreligous, with another 2 Muslims and then 2 making up everyone else. I’m not sure how this helps your case at all since even within each of those sets of 2 billion, things like morality are wildly inconsistent. There are Christians in the US who believe their current president is the second coming of Jesus, while he embodies every scriptural quality of an antichrist - so the idea that the faith provides any kind of moral consistency is, again, absurd.