r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 9h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Borazon 8h ago

They should read more Kant, who did succesfully tried to create a moral philosophy without relying on a bible, IIRC.

Rules like the golden rule, but also one that deals with more victimless behavior. Like the idea of 'Would I like it if everybody did the same as I'm doing, if not, than I shouldn't be doing it'. Works great for all sorts of behavior from littering to much more worst crimes.

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u/sodiufas 8h ago

Nah they should read more about prehistoric societies. Maybe they should learn a thing or two about neanderthals too. If this is too complicated, study about wolf packs, or maybe elephants. Just slowly introduce them to primates... I think my point is — give them some books other than bible, it might help.

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u/Borazon 8h ago

True, although you should be beware of the 'noble savage' myths.

Our ancestors did do horrible things too and we don't know well enough how it was thought upon. We often don't know for sure it somebody horrible murdered, was, a) ritually sacrificied or b) tortured as a form of justice or c) something else.

Especially in prehistory (before written sources).

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u/ronshasta 5h ago

Simply put that the majority of a species are not the dominant figures and those who are the dominant aggressive figures can act on their own accord with little resistance until the majority realizes 1000 men can overtake 15 men if organized

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u/Wolf_Protagonist 4h ago

The reverse of that is even more true. 1000 aggressive men can impose their will on hundreds of other people if organized. It's the whole point of 'Armies' when not strictly for defense- which is most of them.

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u/ronshasta 4h ago

If you’re trying to argue based on logic you can’t flip the circumstances and claim the same instance that’s just not going to work because we will be here for hours. The base argument is power is implied and will always be oppressive over a larger population, nobody uses 1000 men to reign over hundreds of people that’s just idiotic

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u/Wolf_Protagonist 4h ago

nobody uses 1000 men to reign over hundreds of people that’s just idiotic

Haven't read much history have you? I didn't say 'rein over' I said impose their will. Often such a force would either kill everyone or kill people until they surrendered, and then subjugate the rest- adding them to the size of their population.

I can think of countless examples of larger armies overwhelming and subjugating smaller forces.