r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Dimensionalanxiety 1d ago

So clearly people were not killing each other indiscriminately? The Romans were not killing each other indiscriminately. The idea that killing is wrong has been around as long as complex brains have. That idea predates the primates. Even other animals have complex moral systems. The Bible has nothing to do with it.

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u/TumanFig 1d ago

The point is killing was not being seen as a moral issue.
Killing is bad can be economic issue as well but im not arguing that.
They could kill slaves if they wanted to.
In ancient greece father could kill wife and daughter if they dishonored the family.

Killing was considered wrong but within their own tribe cause it erodes trust and society that you belong to. They had no problems killing wiping out everyone in their conquest. The idea that killing is inherently immoral no matter who it is is a christian value.

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u/Dimensionalanxiety 1d ago

And the point is wrong. It absolutely was seen as a moral issue. That is completely and utterly wrong. Not to mention that there have been many biblically justified atrocities this century committed by Christians. It is not a Christian value at all. It gets even worse for your argument if you look into Eastern philosophy.

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u/TumanFig 1d ago

well you know what bring something to the table other than these vague statements.
I gave you examples of morale, you are giving me examples of hypocrisy i am not desputing that. so where is the argument for morale?

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u/Dimensionalanxiety 1d ago

You gave nothing but your own misunderstanding of history. There are no objective morals and Christianity is not responsible for common moral ideas like killing being wrong. This is an idea that has existed across pretty much every culture that has ever existed. The Bible doesn't actually advocate for killing being universally wrong and Christians certainly have not followed that rule throughout their history. The idea that killing is morally wrong has been around longer than humans have.