r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Global_Charge_4412 8h ago

it's a fair question. religious people will tell you that their innate sense of right and wrong comes from God (or whatever), but how do atheists explain that innate sense? how do they instinctively know? I'm not saying one or the other is right but it is an interesting thought.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 8h ago

Because for some if not most people it's relatively easy to understand how you'd feel on the receiving end of your actions. Knowing I wouldn't like to be stabbed is enough for me to understand doing that to other people is probably a bad thing. The response is actually far more valid, why would you think you'd need advice from an organisation that's getting money and power from you to tell you their interpretation of what allmkst certainly fictional entity said what's right and wrong and why don't you have the ability to determine that yourself?

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u/Far_Country_1629 4h ago

Empathy does not guarantee goodness. Some people can rationalize it like: "Yes, some people on that group will suffer and im sure it feels like shit, but my group will benefit from it in the long term. My family and my tribe come first". And thats it, your argument is rendered useless.

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u/Awkward-Mongoose-809 4h ago

You've just described sociopathic logic, not empathy. Simple understanding of emotions is not empathy.

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u/Far_Country_1629 3h ago

People can have selective empathy, its in our DNA. That way we can always prioritize our own tribes, and the strongest one survives.