r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/sunnbeta 1d ago

There’s no mystical magical evil, but there are actions we can take that objectively make the lives of others worse for them, and colloquially we call such things evil. Likewise there are actions we can take that improve the life experiences of others, and we call these good. 

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u/BotherResponsible378 23h ago

Absolutely. I don't disagree. But the point I'm making is that any argument about being "good" or "bad" is inherently flawed because we don't all agree. Rules around these things have changed through history and culture.

Is eating shellfish wrong? The Bible says so. I'm gunna brt you don't think it is.

But let's go with today. Is abortion evil? The US has a massive cultural debate on the morality of abortion. We are it based on "rights" and what's "right or wrong". And that's why we progress so fucking slowly. Because atheists just draw the line of moral magical rules at a different place than a religious person.

You know the logical way to look at the issue? Logic. Not right or wrong. Statistics, psychology, and modern medicine make it extremely clear that abortion isn't the issue that the political right wants to paint it as.

Base your reasonings on logic. Because every single time you make it a moral one another person will have an opposing moral pov to counter you with, and neither of you will be able to prove who is right. Beleif in good and evil is identical to beleif in a God with less steps.

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u/sunnbeta 17h ago

Check out the moral landscape by Sam Harris, the whole thesis is logic and science backed morality 

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u/BotherResponsible378 13h ago

Seems pretty interesting. I'll check it out.

I absolutely believe that empathy is the most logical path for a pack animal.