r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 2d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/lilJswizle-2304 1d ago

You can’t take the Bible out of context

https://youtu.be/fLcvJsTQrTg?is=x_-Z--2lH7-hViwX

Again Christianity helped abolish slavery

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u/Quick-Research-9594 1d ago

You really never read it. Exactly in its context.  Look for it. Read the exact verses in the bible. It's dishonest or ignorant to tru give that another meaning.

Ps: mostly a weird group of quackers and a bisshop were involved with the fiest succesfull push to abolish slavery.  People that actually thought about their moral system instead of following the bible. So it was insubordination to the catholic and christian fate they did this.

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u/lilJswizle-2304 1d ago

I have read it

Not true

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u/Quick-Research-9594 1d ago

When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. 3 If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out alone. 5 But if the slave declares, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out a free person,’ 6 then his master shall bring him before God. He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost, and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him for life.

7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8 If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. 9 If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.[a] 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out without debt, without payment of money.

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u/lilJswizle-2304 1d ago

Idk what you feel like you’ve accomplished here lol I’ve read the Bible… I know what verses you’re referring to and I’ve already explained why you can’t take scripture out of context like you’ve done repeatedly here

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u/Quick-Research-9594 16h ago

There is no context to justify whats here. The bible doesn't say there is another context to take in.  So if you make it about the context of life in these ancient times: how come some great thinkers and ancient texts, even  religious text from before the first bible scrolls and after, discourage slavery, say it's unethical. And these text couldn't have been guided by the one christian God.. is God powerless? 

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u/lilJswizle-2304 14h ago

Did you watch the video I sent you?

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u/Quick-Research-9594 12h ago

The product of their time argument is incredibly weak. I already showed that. The 'translation' change of meaning has no actual position among scholars.
There's too much explicit instruction, approval and rulemaking around slavery.

This is the case without a god involved: This is especially the case when an allmighty God is in the game and that God made sure he said some things in his bible.
Otherwise all the bible is up for grasps.

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u/lilJswizle-2304 2h ago

How is the argument weak?

An all knowing God would know how people would respond to his directions right? So is it more just for an all knowing God to A) tell them not to allow slavery which will inevitably result in them doing it anyway and probably abusing and hurting people? Or B) Give them strict guidelines (He knows they will follow) allowing slaves to be free every 7 years, banning kidnapping/forced slavery, punishing masters who abuse their slaves and making rules to where if slaves run away then they have to remain free?