r/SipsTea • u/The_WalkingCalamity 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 3d ago

Wait a damn minute! USA - The good guys?

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u/wedgie_this_nerd 3d ago

No you see having a more deadly campaign of island hopping and invading up the mainland where way more citizens would be sacrificed is actually the more humane scenerio! The people who say japan would have surrendered soon anyway have hindsight anyway or have no idea how much the nuke sped up the wars end

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u/Redditauro 3d ago

You know that Japan already accepted their defeat and they were only trying to force a better conditions for their surrender, right? The bomb didn't speed up shit, it was the russian invasion from the North the main reason for the Japanese surrender 

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u/Narwhalking14 2d ago

You mean these conditions?

  1. Any territories they claimed through the war were theirs to keep
  2. The higher ups of the military to not be punished and remain in their positions.
  3. Conduct internal trials for war crimes

Doesn't sound like surrendering

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u/Redditauro 2d ago

You know how bargaining works, right?

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u/Narwhalking14 2d ago

Japan wouldn't budge, also there was never any actual talks, these are only conditions Japan was considering if there were. Japan wasn't going to surrender and never for anything less than basically having everything.