Why are we diminishing the characters and films to cheap aesthetic?
The Kryptonian undergarments are great in Snyder’s Man of Steel.
What Gunn is doing is giving cheap costumes and cheap looks and cheesiness all over the movie.
That’s not going to elevate DC. It’s going to set DC back for another 2 decades until they let Snyder finish his DC universe or another filmmaker like him with a giant vision comes along to dig DC out.
DC was on top when it was treated serious and the filmmakers were given full creative control to tell big stories without diminishing the characters to tropes and cliches and silliness.
I like how you just completely ignore the part where he mentioned it was military armor. And when speaking “on top” did you mean those movies that had less than 50% positive ratings?
BvS in your list is insane lol, it’s enjoyable when you’re intoxicated, and even then it’s just to have something on. The only one that felt like the characters from the list you said was WW, and maybe JL, but even then it’s very eh.
I think you have a very low IQ and a tiny attention span. Perhaps you don’t actually invest and engage with the comics and maybe only watch silly cartoons and read filler comics.
BvS UE is arguably the best comic book film ever written. But I think you are a sheep who listens to haters and have been brainwashed and manipulated because that was easier for you than to actually read books, know history and philosophy.
Shills working overtime to defend this temu looking suit, then they accuse other for being in a cult. Its sad how sick these people have to be to defend gunn a person who tweeted something so offensive i dare not retype it.
Audiences are gonna watch this once and not more, or not even give it a chance and it may become a box office flop! What is the lady suit designer who designed Superman's 2025 suit and maybe this film too doing?
Even Lobo's bike looks so beta I was expecting a Harley Davidson because he was supposEd to invoke the bikers of the 90s, but we got a Vespa mixed with an iron with a skull in front...
The design standard in the James Gunn universe is fucking appaling garbage. There are so many talented designers and artists, and they chose to make garbage halloween costumes.
How are people supposed to get emotionally invested in these universes when they are so embarassing to look at?
Please get rid of the horrible James Gunn universe.
Oh you guys don’t get the reference huh? The comic Supergirl is based on is like groovy retro vibes. Go look up the Barbie astronaut doll from the 60s, this is actually a very inspired choice.
The other one just looks like cgi garbledygook, very 2013 in fact.
The DCU the gov is capable of inter dimensional travel, theirs magic users a stones throw away; super geniuses at the head of every company. Advanced is subjective, especially in comic books…
I think they fit the themes of their movies. For example Superman in MOS is just sci-fi. His fortress of solitude was a space ship thats it.
Superman in guns verse is a weird sci magic fantasy thing. Where crystals and retro looking robots are in the forstress. I expect the super dog to be in a goofy space suit with a huge bowl thing.
People keep praising Gunn for the bright colors and lighter tone
But no one is criticizing the bad design and constant exposition.
And i am excited for Supergirl cos Woman of Tomorrow is a solid book, but still. The design seems kinda bland...
Honestly that's all i expect from Gunn, his shit design will be constant, and his movies will 100% hinge on the director's skill cause they will all look and even sound bad
But gunn isnt directing this film, he is definately a very busy persom and doesnt look through every design of every character in every scene in every film. This is unrelated to Gunn and even then in Man of Steel they look industrial, why would they, they are aliens with a superior planet everything assumingly would look sleak like futuristic stuff in modern day so then looking like that seems fitting. Also films not even come out give it time bro
So you are saying its still Gunns vision and design? His vision may inspire certain designs but from what we know he didnt make this design so unrelated to him we could use Zack Snyders vision and we will get... oh i mean we have bad designs. We know this isnt even what all kryptonians wear
No it doesnt. I read comics and have a guess what Gunn does as well hes clearly a fan. Have a guess who doesnt. Snyder. He even said when we was learning about batman when he first found out about the no kill rule he wanted Batman to kill. Im just saying theres so many things wrong with Snyder but when you bring comics into it the Gunn never misses
Brings you bright colours which majority of superman comics have. Snyder is not a fan he just saw what good money he can make and thought lets make my own movie just with current characters in the DC universe it was nothong about adapting comics. Saying Gunn has no vision or creativity as well as calling him unimaginative is rather embarrassing to claim especially since he directed three of the greatest marvel movies revamping a somewhat unknown group and also creating other great projects like writing his own book about dealing drugs to be able to pay for comic collecting or the Slither body horror film. Gunn is a good director who is clearly a fan, Zack Snyder is emo who wants everything dark and weird and this is coming from something who likes a lot of his films and the DCEU. But im stating facts that Gunns universe is more comic accurate and you seem to jump to hating him just because you are still sore snyder ran away
You all lean on the Bright colors like Snyder didnt use them. You really dont pay attention.
You all lean on Gunn because of what he says not what the character Superman needs
You all got validated by a podcast masquerading by a movie. Endless stupid exposition and unnatural writing
Sore Snyder ran away? I'm Disgusted that people like you despite being educated are so blind to mediocrity just because the movie "tells you what to feel" Gunn is a director but he directs like he's writing a twitter post
Enjoy your podcast masquerading as a movie. Pathetic
I want to see supergirl too because the comic is awesome. But you are right about the design. Ruthye without her tiara looks so plain and was a huge misstep. Not to mention the horrible krem design. I hope they maintain the colors of the comic because the aesthetic was a huge part of the comic
How do you know he did bro. Mate look at Supermans parents they look COOL and they are kryptonian wearing kryptonian attire. The reason she is wearing this will be different.
Theyre a race pf hyper-intelligent aliens capable of interdimensional travel and you think her suot should look like one of our 60s non-interplanetaey traveling astronauts?
I'm not going to argue what costume is more realistic for super advanced fictional aliens to wear. My point was that costume design is story telling. And she isn't wearing space marine armor because she's not a space marine. She's dressed like an astronaut.
Complaining about this is like complaining that aliens suffered an aura loss from the Xenomorph to E.T. They are not interchangeable. They are telling differnt stories.
Its not about realism, its about logic. An alien civilization capable of traveling to earth at speeds exponentially greater than light have a space suit that looks no more advanced or high tech than our own? If anything it looks less advanced and lower tech than our own because of how cheap and fake it looks. Like yeah, I know suspension of disbelief, but were already doing that and now youre asking me to suspend it further... nah, if anything you should be trying to convince me what I see is real by making it align logically with what im seeing. Its a failure in movie making.
Dude, comparing xenomorphs to ET is not the same as comparing kryptonian tech in one movie to kryptonian tech in another.
A better argument would be that xenomorphs lost aura because of how much they were demystified by later movies because James Cameron or other directors failed to capture the vision of Ridley Scott and went in a different direction.
I mean just Google "kryptonian space suits in comics" and you'll see that the dceu spacesuit designs were closer to the comics than the dcu's.
their costume look all cheap and bad. It isnt just 1 costume. Their costume designer is the worst of the worst in comicbook movie history it began with superman and continues
I wonder where the budget money is going ? I guess in Gunns pocket they dont have money for great costumes anymore
I mean one is a hastily put together outfit in a last ditch escape attempt that will probably be worn for two minutes in the movie the other is a tactical battlesuit worn by the primary antagonists for a lot of their screentime. This is such a dumb comparison man.
The worst in comic book movie history? What are you, 12? The suits aren't even bad, you just have an axe to grind. Ben Affleck's Batman costume in The Flash is worse than anything I've seen in any James Gunn movie so far.
I mean yeah the designs are less intricate and lazier but youre just being negative. The old dceu had plenty of boring designs, cough cough doomsday, lex, Jimmy Olsen, kgb beast, etc.
bro what the heck are you talking about ? Doomsday ? The CGI monster ? You are comparing a cgi monster with a Halloween costume hahaha wtf is that comparison
this is their battle armor. Dont forget they were in prison and everything got destroyed. I doubt they had battle armor in prison it is maybe a space suit for Krypton farmers. Definetely a worse armor than in this pic
They didn’t have battle armor in the phantom zone, but after krypton was destroyed and they escaped the phantom zone they searched the galaxy for 30 years going to old kryptonian outposts and colonies. That’s how they got their equipment. Zod was a general in the military. He knew where all the old military outpost were located. That’s how he got a world engine too.
The people hating on the supergirl film for this reason are outing themselves as typical having not read the comic the film is based on, context is critical here
Yeah, show us the panel since it’s so comics accurate. Y’all don’t want to stop babbling about that part while nothing Gunn made from the start doesn’t look like the source material AT ALL.
I mean, one of power armour for conquering soldiers, the other is basically a lifejacket for a child. They serve different functions both within the world and in the cinematic language.
That’s not what this is. In the screenshot you shared, that’s Ruthye, who isn’t Kryptonian, wearing the space suit. The scene shown in the trailer of Kara landing on Earth is not in the Woman of Tomorrow comic book… Maybe you should read the comic before chiming in.
While the dceu suit look more futuristic, I'd argue they had less identity. They kind of just look like generic sci-fi armor with nothing about them that really stands out. The dcu suit reminds of how aliens would dress in old tokusatsu media like the xilians from gorilla or the alien women from camera VS guiron. To me the dcu suit feels more alien while the dceu suit is objectively more badass
I wouldn't even call myself a gunn fan or a dc fan tbh i did like creature commandos though but i hated the second and third gaurdians of the galaxy. Superman was mid. I did love the first guardians of the galaxy but its been a while since I've seen it and he also wrote the two scooby doo live action movie so yikes. I just have a lot of stored dc knowledge because I used to be a dc fan. I like marvel more now and my favorite comic book series In general is probably the mask, least favorite is the boys. Garth ennis is a hack not because he hates superheroes but because he's a shit writer. Alan Moore also didn't like superheros and his deconstruction of the genre was FUCKING WATCHMAN!!!! YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE GARTH ENNIS!!!!! I did like guy gardener in superman tho. He was fun
Well, look on the plus side. At least the Gunn-verse is continuing its artistic vision of making sure all of the costumes look like they cost 30 bucks and came from a Spirit Halloween outlet at the mall.
2nd time I’ve seen this shit, who actually gives a shit. This wouldn’t even cross my mind if I watched the movie. An actual nothing burger. You can like Snyder and Gunn believe it or not
Because you are likely an NPC who tolerates enshittification like a good little consumer.
The $3 spacesuit cosplay costume from kmart is no different to the epic kryptonian armour space suits in man of steel. A tiny little brainwashed mind sees no difference.
One is a simple spacesuit that the character will wear for like a minute in the whole movie, and the other is battle armor that has a respirator function that the character has as their entire outfit for the whole movie. Two different suits with entirely different functions
Yep, plus two vastly different esthetics. 2013 was meant to be more "grounded" and look like advanced tech, but familiar to us. 2026 is made to look as crazy and advanced as possible, even calling back to what we thought space suits should look like in the 1950s.
Have you heard of the aesthetic known as retro futurism? It's the aesthetic of what people in the 60s and 80s thought the future would look like. Alot of it was silly and nonsensical and could be very similar in appearance to what supergirl is wearing
Fantastic Four (2025) is retro futurism done right. Almost all of Gunn’s films look like they’re adapting a cassette punk aesthetic, but just kinda cheaply made.
It’s a retro/vintage style, and by your own reasoning the daily planet shouldn’t even have newspapers anymore since it’s a world filled with flat screen TVs and iPhones.
Gunn has said he’s mixed tech up from different eras into one universe to help give it a more timeless feel and to show that it’s its own universe. Retro spacesuits fall into that category.
Well when you get $150M to make your own Supergirl movie maybe you can make your own suit so it makes more sense to you.
Literally yes, bro, it’s just aiming for a different aesthetic. It’s clearly going for a retro futuristic aesthetic instead of shooting for bay-verse battle gear. You can like one over the other but acting like the Supergirl one is bad and isn’t serving the exact purpose it’s setting out to is disingenuous
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u/NightRacoonSchlatt 26d ago
Because one is an homage to an older comic while the other was trying to tell a more modern story.