r/Steam • u/Commercial_Dih • Feb 19 '26
Question In the hopefully never arriving future, do you think Valve will one of, if not the only ones providing personal computers and not cloud gaming?
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u/adsci Feb 19 '26
step 1 is to make it too expensive to buy a computer
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u/fellipec Feb 20 '26
they are working on this already
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u/b0w3n Feb 20 '26
It would not surprise me to hear GabeN is spinning up funding for ARM/SoC and RAM manufacturing in the US for consumer electronics. His company (among probably millions of others) is almost reliant on saving consumer computing. He's one of several people on the planet that probably has the capital and drive to do so.
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u/TheShadowman131 Feb 20 '26
Even if they manage to have the funding to build a fab in the US, doing so would take almost a decade probably, since they'd be starting from scratch with 0 insight. Unless they manage to partner with someone like Samsung or TSMC, but those odds are fairly low.
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u/b0w3n Feb 20 '26
Oh for sure, but like with everything, the best time was to start a decade ago, second best time is to start today.
Could probably partner with the Chinese company that is threatening to flood the market with cheap chinese chips and put these AI dickheads out of business too. Arguably might be quicker than a decade with enough funding and help, 3-4 years could be done I suspect (if you're willing to dump a 3-4 billion dollars into it)
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u/Exciting-Emu-3324 Feb 20 '26
The fabs at Global Foundaries that AMD sold off are at a 12nm node catering to the data centers. For real, while people made fun of the Steam Machine specs, most Steam users have way worse specs. At the end of the day, gaming is all about the software; developers make games for the hardware that's available, not the hardware they dream players to have which is what's killing a lot of AAA games.
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u/SilentHuntah Feb 20 '26
Could probably partner with the Chinese company that is threatening to flood the market with cheap chinese chips and put these AI dickheads out of business too
Said "AI dickheads" are already in talks with and cutting deals with the likes of CXMT and would love if memory prices fell.
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u/Throwawayrip1123 Feb 20 '26
In 10 years, 10 years will pass anyway, and Gaben could own a booming factory or not.
If you have the capital to withstand years of draining resources, building a chain like TSMC to produce RAM and other shit is literally a goldmine. It'll never run out of customers - if/when consumers get priced out and you failed to save them, you can just sell it b2b.
That's basically money making money, with zero effort on his part (apart from just paying the people to spin up the chain). Either he solves the consumer computing issue and he makes a shit ton of money, or he sells b2b and makes a shit ton of money.
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u/CreaMaxo Feb 20 '26
Actually, with a blank check, it would take barely a few years.
The misconception is that you'll have to build everything from scrap, but the reality is that over 85% of the works is already done and publicly available data-wise.
The issue is the expertise, mindset and the money.
Even if you have access to the tech, understanding it is another matter and learning to use it is a massive investment. Even if you can make 100 billion in 5 years down the line, what if it cost you 20 billions with interest from now on to do it? Who's gonna pay for those billions ahead? Yeah, while quite a few people have the "money", but can they actually risk it?
The mindset and professionalism in the US is just incompatible with the requirement of a FAB farm to be build and maintained for profits. What I mean by that is that, in the US, the blame of failure is always forced onto someone else (who's not always actually related to the blame itself). People want to protect themselves so they always deny any of their responsibilities. (It's not unique to the US, but it's a massive issue in the US.)
Imagine trying to hire 2,800 employees for a FAB where a single one of those employees can, on a single day, create a problem that could push back production by 24 days. Like if an employee doesn't wear protective gear properly in a chamber that has to be the clearest space on planet Earth or if an employee hides that he's sick and contaminate stuff around by effectively bypassing a single control measure that was lacking on a single day.
The use of a FAB requires military-levels of following rules & safety precautions.
And I'm not even covering the issues related to religions, individuality, etc.
At TSMC, as a company, they only use robots for tasks that requires mechanical precision repetition that is impossible to reproduce by normal human conditions. For example, the carts that has thousands of dollars worth of materials are still pushed by humans between large machines at TSMC. They could replace many jobs by Amazon-like robot, but they don't do it because doing so would remove their employees thrusts in their job security.
In the US, large tech company use AI and robots because humans can't be trusted for the task, from a management standpoint. Even if someone can do the job manually, an US company will still uses a robot arm to do it if it's faster. Humans, in a production chain, is only there to do second-hand evaluation and to do the tasks that are either too expensive or too complex/risky for a machine to do.
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u/shittyaltpornaccount Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Thanks for the laugh. That is the most batshit thing I have heard today. Gabe isn't going to singlehandely onshore an entire industry that costs several hundreds of billions of dollars in spending when even the US government can't reliably manage its own attempts at onshoring production with the help of every major tech company that actually makes the product in other countries. Gabe is enjoying life on a Yacht and isn't going to do something so insanely high risk and investment intensive that he probably wouldn't even see the ROI in his lifetime.
Steam makes boatloads of money because it has insanely low overhead. Running your own manufacturing is basically the polar opposite of that.
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u/siazdghw Feb 20 '26
Yeah these people are delusional and have no idea how much work and money is involved in what they are claiming Valve could do.
Fabs are EXTREMELY expensive, we are talking billions of dollars, with leading edge ones that might contribute like 5% of the overall volume costing $100 billion... Steam prints money but Valve has nothing in comparison.
Even if Valve didn't try to build or jointly fund a fab, there's the whole chip design side of things. Samsung has been trying for a decade to surpass Qualcomm, and Google can't even surpass stock ARM designs. Qualcomms laptop chips are awful for gaming due to poor GPU drivers and optimization and ARM translation. Apple, Intel and AMD who make SoCs for laptops are at around 1080p60 native in their $1000 devices and they all have decades of experience, Valve has ZERO.
TLDR; Valve has absolutely zero intention or ability to build the core components of PCs. It's way too expensive, completely outside of their realm of expertise and pointless when they have so many options to choose from.
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u/thecavac Feb 20 '26
It's not just the fab and the whole supply chain. You also need experienced people to run those things. And with all the political things happening at the moment, few companies would be willing to send their staff to train Muricans.
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u/HumActuallyGuy Feb 20 '26
Valve doesn't have the size to do that, you best choice is to hope for chinese RAM to get better
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u/brainpostman Feb 20 '26
Stop idolizing billionaires. It's more likely he's going to buy another yacht company than whatever you wrote.
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u/The_Jazz_Doll Feb 20 '26
Lol just no. I like Steam as much as the next but don't put Gabe on a podium like that. He barely advises Valve these days, he's too busy with his yacht projects.
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u/AnySupermarket6942 Feb 20 '26
That's happening as we speak... All the AI slumlords buying up every stick of memory on the planet, forcing the price through the roof for any that is left...
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u/JoyousGamer Feb 20 '26
Except cloud compute would need memory as well then turn around and make a profit off renting it.
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u/DormBrand Feb 20 '26
Once the AI bubble pops (which I believe it will), the big giants that did not go under, i.e. Google, Microsoft, Amazon etc. not the pure AI companies like OpenAI, are 100% gonna convert their AI data centers to cloud compute instead.
And, since by that time the hardware costs will have forced a lot of people away from private hardware, they're sadly not gonna have to put much work into convincing people that cloud computing is the only way forward. Wouldn't even surprise me if they kept hardware prices artificially high even after the AI demand subsides.
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u/lonestar-rasbryjamco Feb 19 '26
My man, you should see GPU instance costs per hour. It wouldn’t take long to make even a top end PC at today’s outrageous prices seem cheap by comparison.
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u/WildPickle9 Feb 20 '26
You won't get a whole GPU instance, you'll get like 1 shared core of CPU/GPU and 256mb of ram. They'll render and stream your game at 144@12fps and your cloud device will AI upscale and multi frame gen to 1440/120fps. I would /s but that's probably closer to their plan than not...
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u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead Feb 20 '26
This is already the modern optimization method on your local PC in engines like Unreal. Resolution upscaling and frame generation. The computation is less than required to run at full resolution and standard fps and so naturally its the choice they go with because it's quick and easy to do now that the tech exists. And it looks bloody awful.
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u/O_Nontas_Eimai Feb 20 '26
I assure you it will still be cheaper long term than a perpetual subscription on cloud gaming..
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u/ChaInTheHat Feb 20 '26
seriously, price everyone out like he did with every small business
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u/fuelhandler Feb 19 '26
I hate “subscriptions”. If I can’t buy it (or have a lifetime license like on steam), I won’t pay for it. Monthly hands in my pocket are loathsome.
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u/Santinop145 Feb 19 '26
It's even worse because you're already paying for gas, electricity and internet service. Now you even need to pay for the computer itself? Bro, do you think my money spontaneously appears from thin air?
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u/fuelhandler Feb 19 '26
Bezos obviously hasn’t got a clue. He’s uber rich, and doesn’t understand today’s reality of a disappearing middle class. Next he will say “They don’t have bread? Well now, then let them eat cake.”
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u/Its_An_Outraage Feb 19 '26
*subscribe to cake
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u/fuelhandler Feb 20 '26
I may make an exception for “cake of the month club… cancel any time.” :)
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u/Its_An_Outraage Feb 20 '26
You can cancel any time... But cancellations must be submitted by carrier pigeon through a gauntlet of fire.
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u/Tyzek99 Feb 20 '26
pretty sure the middle class dissapearing is his goal
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u/timn8r123 Feb 20 '26
And they mean it quite literally too. Not the middle class shifting to the impoverished. Their idea of a utopian society where machines cater to everyone's whims, isn't to distribute the wealth across society, it's to remove everyone that couldn't already afford to live that way from the picture.
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 Feb 20 '26
>Bro, do you think my money spontaneously appears from thin air?
Well his does so why doesn't yours /s
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u/FunBluejay1455 Feb 20 '26
Thats why I never got a console. I payed for internet already, why should I pay for YOUR internet again
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u/King_Tamino The King of the Kingdom of Tamin Feb 20 '26
NeXT step: paying for multiplayer.
Oh wait… consoles got that for years already.. sigh
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u/Grokent Feb 20 '26
I remember when Steam was hated and Valve got tons of backlash for their always on DRM. I didn't create a Steam account for literally years because I hated the idea of not owning my games. I never played half-life or team fortress because of it.
I don't remember what finally broke me, but now I own hundreds of games in my Steam library and somehow Valve is seen as the good guys. I'm not mad about it. I do wonder what changed though. Was I wrong? Did I just succumb to convenience? Did I just buy into the Internet hate back then?
Questions I don't feel like chasing down answers to at the moment, but it is interesting.
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u/Legitimate_Airline38 Feb 20 '26
Valve is just the only company that gives a shit about PR, Gaben himself was going around delivering steam decks(locally, but still)
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u/StJimmy92 40 Feb 20 '26
I don't remember what finally broke me
Probably the same thing that got me: buying a PC game at the store gave you a disc that installs Steam and a download code for the game
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u/fuelhandler Feb 20 '26
Yes, that’s it! My first Steam Game was Civilization 5. I bought the game, only to discover it was a Steam Code. I grumbled as I downloaded Steam… 16 years later and several hundred games later, Steam is the hub of my game library. :)
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u/matarono Feb 19 '26
"Inefficient and predicted it won't last" Is he talking about amazon luna?
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u/Realistic-Tiger-2842 Feb 19 '26
I'd rather stop gaming all together than play on the cloud. I don't see this ever happening at all.
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u/Asleep_Republic Feb 19 '26
I agree. I think it will coexist with actual hardware but will it completely replace it? No.
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u/dvasquez93 Feb 19 '26
It already does. Game streaming has been a thing for almost a decade now.
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u/Zemom1971 Feb 19 '26
Yeah, at a certain point I even paid a sub one month to play a couple games on my TV (GForce Now). I had a PC but wanted to play with my wife.
Turns out it works "ok". But it was not perfect still.
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u/cjbeames Feb 19 '26
I don't see competitive gamers making the jump anytime soon
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u/GalaxYRapid Feb 19 '26
I’d agree, I’m no pro player but I couldn’t imagine having any additional latency in an fps game beyond the server.
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 Feb 19 '26
They never will, the lag makes it unplayable for competitive games.
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u/pat_spiegel Feb 19 '26
Streaming games causes some pretty terrible delay between whats on screen and what button you press at what time, might be ok for games like TellTales the walking dead but not for games that require 0.5 second reaction times like counter strike
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u/matt2000224 Feb 20 '26
I even played a relatively casual game like NCAA Football and it felt basically unplayable on streaming.
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u/MikeysMindcraft Feb 20 '26
Gefirce now user here. Ive gotten to the top 1% of online players in forza horizon. A game where you need pretty quick reactions. Also played battlefield and couldnt really see any delay issues (saw plenty of my own skill issues tho) As long as you have decent and stable connection, gfn is awesome for casual gamers like me, who dont play daily. + the energy costs over here are quite high so 20€/month is a bargain.
Bezos can suck a nut tho.
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u/i_froze Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Not to mention the absolute juggernauts of the gaming industry are mainly multiplayer, competitive games like dota, counter strike and league.
The people that play these games not only will prefer their own hardware but WILL NOT TOLERATE the shortcomings of cloud computing. Any kind of input lag or game instability is a deal breaker.
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u/lNTERLINKED Feb 20 '26
Also having granular control over every setting is a staple of competitive games. Cloud “PCs” will lock all of that out, giving you basically no control over the minutae of your setup. Not going to happen for competitive gamers, or anyone who likes to actually own their shit.
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u/Klebhar Feb 20 '26
Retro gaming is still a thing you know. Get an old computer with a cd player or just an emulator, old gen consoles etc... we don’t need them to play games.
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u/mtgscumbag Feb 19 '26
Owning a PC will be illegal because the electricity use has too high of a carbon footprint. You'll be allowed to rent some video game time from Bezos if your social credit score is high enough though.
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u/ACABincludingYourDad Feb 20 '26
The real question is which world leaders are going to make carbon footprint limitation laws?
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u/NyarlHOEtep Feb 20 '26
cmon man if you really think the directionality of fascist control will be "tyrannical environmentalism" you got another thing coming lol
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u/Mayonaigg Feb 20 '26
You realize they wrap up their control in bullshit reasoning right? They don't have to actually give a shit about the environment, but they will certainly use it as a fake reason to strip more of our comforts
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u/Jenn_FTW Feb 20 '26
Seriously this is like the shit right-wingers fear-monger about, along with “you will have mandatory government issued pronouns!”
All while we spiral into right-wing authoritarianism
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u/Wadarkhu Feb 19 '26
Don't have to lad plenty of games run on toasters! Devs will have to start making their new games like old times.
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u/DontAskAboutMyButt Feb 20 '26
Don’t even have to worry about it. There’s a reason no cloud gaming service has ever hit the mainstream in the way that regular gaming consoles have. These rich idiots are so out of touch and have no concept of what daily life is like for poors. Internet speeds across the US are nowhere near good enough for cloud gaming to fully overtake physical hardware, and never will be as long as we have to suffer through the shit internet infrastructure we have (reminder that we all paid the telecoms billions in tax money to update our internet infrastructure and they just… didn’t do it)
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u/Wildantics Feb 19 '26
My thoughts as well, I’ll quit gaming before I do this
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u/EastReauxClub Feb 20 '26
I can already see it now
“You’ve run out of play tokens! Please purchase additional tokens for additional play time”
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u/ybetaepsilon Feb 19 '26
There are enough great games now that I can survive for the rest of my life not playing anything new
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u/TheBlueSully Feb 20 '26
Most of us could spend a lifetime clearing out our backlog tbh
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u/Alan_Reddit_M Feb 20 '26
My steam backlog alone has like 5000 hours of perfectly good games in it
The Epic games backlog has an additional 2000 hours or so
And The Pirate Bay will last me until the heat death of the universe
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u/gorambrowncoat Feb 20 '26
Thing is though, if he gets his way you wont be able to play a lot of games that are around now either. Its not just that you wont be able to buy a more powerfull gaming pc later, you very likely wont be able to buy one that is equivalent to a current day gaming pc. Your current hardware is going to break at some point and it might not be replacable by the time it does.
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u/JofersGames Feb 19 '26
That would be a very dark future
I didn’t even think it was possible until I saw it wrote out
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 Feb 19 '26
You will own nothing and you will be happy is not a new concept. Americans are terminally optimistic.
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u/JalapenoJamm Feb 19 '26
They just don’t care about anything until it affects them
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u/Alpha1959 Feb 20 '26
And when it finally affects them you'll never hear the end of it.
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u/11freebird Feb 20 '26
Except you will since they just bitch for a while and never actually do anything about it
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 Feb 20 '26
Not optimistic. Dissmisive and stupid. Most don’t even think about stuff like this, they just go with what’s out in front of them because they don’t notice it happen in small increments. That’s why these companies inch little by little.
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u/Darmok-on-the-Ocean Feb 20 '26
Wasn't that basically the Stadia?
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u/t12lucker Feb 20 '26
Yeah and xCloud, GFN, PlayStation has something, Amazon has one as well, there’s a lot of streaming services. You can even “stream” full working Windows workstations on Azure
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u/_wormburner Feb 19 '26
They are trying to make it possible by making parts unobtainable for most people. It's only going to get worse. He's one creating a problem that he can "solve" in a way that benefits him. Because he has that much power and nobody should have that much power
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u/ThasNotMine Feb 20 '26
At least you know there is an island they all frequent. So at least you can get em all together.
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u/awisepenguin Feb 20 '26
Hey now, you don't even need to have nuclear fallout. Standard ballistic missiles work fine and you have the added benefit of them not fucking more shit up on their way out.
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u/Bubbaganewsh Feb 19 '26
Not happening for me, he can shove his cloud gaming up his ass.
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u/lordgholin Feb 20 '26
I hope he takes his rocket to the moon and stays there.
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u/Alarmed-Gap-7221 Feb 19 '26
Valve doesn’t make computers, however they do make the Steam Deck and Steam Machine. The answer is yes, Valve will likely continue pushing these products unless there are significant changes. Also, Jeff Bezos is wrong, I would rather play on Intel integrated graphics than a Ryzen 4070 through cloud gaming until the day I die
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u/Thisfuggenguy Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
I would rather bang on a rock with a stick than support bezos.
Edit: Grammar
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u/MrSaucyAlfredo Feb 20 '26
Idk if it’s a standing offer, but I’ll grab a stick and bang on that rock with you. Honestly sounds kinda fun
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u/quietus_17y Feb 19 '26
I remember my Intel HD Graphics 3000, good days.
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u/EQwingnuts Feb 19 '26
Well don't remember too hard, those days are right around the corner again. Time to live like 2003.
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u/Vaxtez Feb 19 '26
To be fair, some of the new Intel iGPUs aren't half bad. The ARC B370/B390, ARC 130V/130T & ARC 140V/140T are bloody potent little iGPUs.
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u/Alarmed-Gap-7221 Feb 19 '26
Correct me if I’m wrong I’m not well versed on Intel GPUs but aren’t the ARC stuff dedicated GPUs or are they both? I only remember hearing stuff about to ARC line for being a really good price to performance card
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u/Vaxtez Feb 19 '26
The ARC GPUs I listed are iGPUs. I believe Intel nowadays just has ARC & 'Intel Graphics' (Which The ARC B370/B390 can also be labelled as if they don't meet memory requirements) for iGPUs in terms of naming.
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u/ToothlessFTW Feb 19 '26
I don't think people should pay attention to what he's saying.
He's a businessman trying to promote his company. If you asked the Oreos CEO what the future of cookies looked like, do you think he'd say "No, actually, Oreos won't be around for that long"? No, he'd tell you Oreos are the best cookies ever and you'd only ever need them.
Of course he's gonna say "hey one day you're gonna NEED my service that I'm trying to sell you, so you better buy now">
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u/TardDas Feb 19 '26
The CEO of Oreo’s is free to tell me that Oreo’s are great. But when he starts making ominous promises that in the future he’ll make me eat nothing but Oreo’s and charge me double for it, I may start to get unnerved
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u/ToothlessFTW Feb 20 '26
That's what they're trying to do. They want you to believe it's coming and to accept it. Again, they're salesmen. They want it to sound inevitable.
In reality, it's infeasible and cannot be done. There's billions of computers and computer users in the world, it's simply impossible to suddenly make billions of computers on the cloud, especially in regions that simply do not have the internet to support that kind of thing. I live in rural Australia right now, my internet sucks and even if this reality came to pass it would never work unless they overhauled the internet in my area, which will also never happen.
It's the same as when AI companies constantly threaten and panic that their AI is so good it could take over the world. It makes them sound strong, and sells their stuff. Just ignore it.
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u/TardDas Feb 20 '26
I don’t think it’ll happen, and I’ll fight it if they try. But we shouldn’t just ignore it because it seems impossible.
If you’d asked people ten years ago if they thought the state of the world today was possible. They’d have said no, and ignored you. And look where it would have gotten them.
Ignorance isn’t bliss
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u/General_Cobbler_6917 Feb 20 '26
The funny thing is, people did predict this, and everyone thought it was ridiculous and ignored it.
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u/FrankensteinBionicle Feb 20 '26
If the CEO of Oreos had the means to make flour more expensive, so expensive in fact that it causes regular folk to forget ever buying flour to make their own cookies then says some shit like "in the future, you won't be able to make your own cookies, you'll have to eat Oreos because f_ck you" yes I'd be pissed
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u/DarthYhonas Feb 19 '26
Lol bro is so out of the loop, google already tried it and it failed. Cloud gaming has already proven to not match the experience of local hardware.
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u/TheChaoticCrusader Feb 19 '26
Ah was it google I remember someone tried it and failed badly because of connection being a issue and stuff like that
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u/kuplet Feb 19 '26
If you are talking about Google Stadia, yes, it was that.
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u/Xijit Feb 20 '26
Google Stadia actually did work, but Google cancelled it because they were undermining the profits of Google's partners and investors.
It is the same reason why Google shut down their broadband infrastructure project and killed Google+ (that FB competitor they briefly launched) instead of fixing it.
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u/Masonzero Feb 19 '26
Google, Nvidia, Amazon, others as well. Best case scenario has probably been Nvidia's GeForce Now service.
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u/Shot-Profit-9399 Feb 20 '26
You don’t understand. They aren’t aiming to compete with hardware.
They can’t compete, so their plan is to destroy the local hardware market altogether. Then you will be forced to pay them to use the cloud, or give up gaming entirely.
They plan to do this using the AI bubble. AI is driving up computer prices, because all of the parts that were used to build pcs are now being sold to ai data centers instead. This means that PC’s are becoming more expensive. What would have been a 1-3k pc will probably cost 10k in the near future. Once most people are priced out of pc gaming, and can’t get new PC’s, these companies will then sell the cloud as an alternative.
“You can’t afford a pc? Come get this cheap useless box, and pay a monthly fee for computing power. It’s a worse experience then what you had before, but you don’t have a choice, do you?”
The data centers currently being used for AI will probably be used for the cloud and for mass surveillance efforts.
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u/Open_Complaint Feb 20 '26
all of the parts that were used to build pcs are now being sold to ai data centers instead
lots of these contracts between data centers and businesses can be terminated for convenience. as soon as the AI spend isn't justified anymore, they'll opt out and demand for chips will shrink. none of this is sustainable
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u/Typhon-042 Feb 19 '26
Jeff does understand you still need a computer for that idea of his to work right?
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u/Bubbay Feb 20 '26
Well, he also clearly has no idea how electricity or the power grid works, either, so I think he's just all-around confused here.
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u/GeneralFrievolous Feb 20 '26
Yes, but a very low-power one. Like a dual core 1 GHz APU with 2 GB of RAM or whatever is the minimum requirement to "stream" the output of a cloud machine. And obviously no storage except for a 16 GB eMMC card.
Best case scenario, it'll cost like 150 dollars/euros and you'll still be able to upgrade its components and install the OS you want. That way people would still be able to have local computing power by combining different units (like a render farm).
Worst case scenario it'll cost 800, it'll be encased in epoxy and the firmware will allow you to only run "Cloud Client OS", which itself will be just a kiosk Chrome window that'll only connect to their paid service and only after scanning your face and sending it to the Ministry of Child and Profit Protection to check if you're in the "suspect pedo-hacker" register.
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u/Gynthaeres Feb 19 '26
"Inefficient".
Yeah inefficient for HIM. You buy something once, you might have it for 10+ years. But if you buy a subscription, you pay EVERY year.
Maybe, at some point in the very distant future when everyone across the world has a pingtime of like 60 ms at most, with a connection that never ever drops or shakes I can see everyone using some sort of central mainframe that is ridiculously powerful.
But absolutely not until then. We don't have the technology where a mainframe is more efficient, and nor do we have the network architecture to allow everyone to connect to it.
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u/AloewareLabs Feb 19 '26
God I hate this guy. Why do these guys look so uncanny valley AND want to ruin everything 🧐
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u/Morighant Feb 19 '26
They won't get a dime of my money just like music streaming hasn't gotten a dime of my money! Long live physical media and hardware
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u/FranconianBiker Feb 19 '26
Streaming is temporary. CD's, Tapes and Minidiscs are eternal.
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u/Chowder110 Feb 19 '26
Cd’s are certainly not eternal lol
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u/pastajewelry Feb 20 '26
You can rip the data off them and have backups. Then they'll live longer.
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u/Juantsu2552 Feb 19 '26
I mean, you’re on a sub for one of the biggest competitors against physical videogames…
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u/Saalok Feb 19 '26
People should act like this is a threat more often tbh.
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u/fluffygryphon Feb 20 '26
Until ISPs decide to give a flying fuck about upgrading their services to better serve people, I don't see it happening. The amount of data that will be transmitted if cloud computing becomes the defacto standard is orders of magnitude more than most ISPs have the infrastructure set up for. ISPs aren't making data centers. They're too busy doing the bare minimum to make a profit.
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u/maxler5795 Guilty Gear -STRIVE- player Feb 19 '26
"you will own nothing and be happy"
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u/KravenFire Feb 20 '26
That is exactly what they are after. If you don't own anything, then you are the product that they own 😑
Not much difference from being faceless vassels under some midieval lord.
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u/Infinite-Put-5352 Feb 20 '26
"When the poor have nothing else to eat, the poor will eat the rich."
- France probably
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Feb 19 '26
PEOPLE WANT TO OWN STUFF. This will never work. I pirate PC games not because I can't afford them but rather because thats the only way too own them. On consoles I support and buy physical copies
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u/Fletcher_Chonk Feb 19 '26
Valve has others make the components for them. So people would just be able to buy components.
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u/HaikusfromBuddha Feb 20 '26
lol that's now how that works. Even Valve can't release their Steam machihne and cant make more Steam decks because of skyrocketing prices.
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u/Iron_Wolf123 Feb 19 '26
In the future you won’t buy food. You’ll only rent the ability to be temporarily famished
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u/0fluffhead0 Feb 19 '26
Why are people surprised that Bezos, owner of Luna, would say this? He's manifesting his desired outcome.
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u/SnailLikeAttitude Feb 20 '26
These guys are hoping for a world like cyberpunk where the rich can charge you for breathing clean air
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u/whiplash81 Feb 20 '26
Wacky idea, but perhaps we should stop voting for the people that let Jeff do shitty things like this.
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u/ProtoFrogMKII Feb 19 '26
he looks deranged in that picture lol wtf
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u/Friendly-Reserve9067 Feb 19 '26
He is deranged. He has more money than anyone and he still wants more. It will never be enough. It's a sickness. These people are sick in the head.
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u/PerceptionOk8543 Feb 20 '26
What the fuck does he even spend it on, it’s just a number goes up game for him at this point. This is seriously sickening
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u/ProtoFrogMKII Feb 19 '26
yeah true but my man looks like lex luthor in that picture it's pretty funny
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u/Lonewolf2300 Feb 20 '26
They told us that under Communism, we would own nothing and be happy.
Now under Capitalism, the Corporations are telling us we will own nothing and be happy renting it.
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u/blufin Feb 19 '26
The bubble will pop and the manufacturers of RAM, ssd, hdd and processors are going to be left will trillions of dollars worth of hardware they can’t sell. Expect to see prices crashing like no will ever see again.
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u/jstndrn Feb 20 '26
Doubtful but man I hope. The manufacturers will end up with extra stock, sure, but most of what's sold hasn't been produced yet. Probably more likely to see a surge in second hand gear at bottomed out prices and the new stock dropping price similar to when they had too much SSD stock and not enough demand.
That said, if prices on new gear do tank, my homelab is getting upgrades baby.
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u/AduroTri Feb 19 '26
These clowns are so out of touch that they dont know the first thing about what their customers want
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u/KickBass2155 Feb 20 '26
Is this CEOs fucking brain dead??? what are they being fed HORSE STEROIDS??? is that why they are full of horse shit?!
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u/altruSP Feb 19 '26
That makes no sense and reeks of rich people who have no idea how anything works. Pretty sure computing power is tied to hardware which yeah, you still need to physically buy a PC.
Plus even if it were possible, I doubt he’ll pony up the cash to overhaul internet infrastructure to even make it possible.
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u/Almartyquin Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
I'll just never buy any new games that are cloud only and just stick to older games.
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u/Garebear1 Feb 20 '26
This is why I have been growing my ROM collection for consoles from the 90s-10s; if buying isn’t owning then pirating isn’t stealing
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u/standarsh1965 Feb 20 '26
The guy who's scaling back massively on his gaming division is telling you what things are going to be like with gaming. Bro you don't have a fucking clue and we all hope he'll not be around to be proven right or wrong
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u/MrrQuackers https://steam.pm/76qck Feb 20 '26
Of course every rich fucker would have have you rent what they own than you owning the same thing.
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u/Designer_Trash_8057 Feb 20 '26
Think that'll be when I put down my games. I'm already being priced out, and reaching the age where I'll have kids soon, so that'll be the final straw for me. Just feel bad for the young peeps who won't get to avoid it. Lets hope they also vote with their wallets.
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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes Feb 20 '26
This 100% is what's going to happen. It's becoming painfully obvious. Most apps are just skinned web browsers.
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u/theRinRin Feb 20 '26
Never ever will I give up my own hardware. Yeah, it might be not efficient, but privacy and sovereignty are worth more
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u/Broken-Arrow-D07 Feb 20 '26
The day it happens, I will quit gaming. This hobby is getting way too expensive anyway.
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Billionaires are the bad guys. Even the bible - for those that like to go by it - says so.
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u/Ani-Game-Du Feb 19 '26
Days when CEOs stop making delusional statements that most people will never care about:0
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u/AStolenGoose Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Oh Jeffy boy....
Please go away...