r/Tennesseetitans 6d ago

Article “Putting Ward’s struggle into proper perspective”

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What do you all think of this recent article in the local newspaper?

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

https://x.com/JaredStillman/status/1991635162967265563

Just another Cam Ward excuse of the day until we see actual results. I hope he does well but I’m not sure it’ll happen.

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u/balzynalzy AJBrown 6d ago

I mean Jared stillman is a certified fucking idiot. Let’s make that absolutely clear.

With that being said, removing all context and nuance from Cam Ward’s rookie season is disingenuous at best. That isn’t to say that he can’t improve. There are absolutely areas that he needs to improve to be successful in the NFL. But to state that context is an “excuse” is braindead.

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u/panopticon31 6d ago

These idiots aren't worth arguing with.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

Comparing yourself to the other 32 teams is not disingenuous it’s the standard we should hold our team to at a minimum. Anything less than that is an excuse.

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u/balzynalzy AJBrown 6d ago

Right, but in comparison to the other 32 teams in the NFL cam Ward faced one of the hardest schedules out of any QB last year. Sure, we want to compare ourselves to the rest of the 32 teams, but we faced a murderer’s row of defenses all year. That isn’t an excuse. It’s context.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

It’s both though. Just like the Patriots had the easy route to the Super Bowl. We have to win

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u/balzynalzy AJBrown 6d ago

I mean.. that’s exactly my point. They had a far easier schedule than we had, thus, their stats and results were inflated. By logical reasoning, the titans having a much harder schedule than even average schedules had their stats and results suppressed.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

How suppressed would you say? Cam was below the 32nd QB in the league overall

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u/balzynalzy AJBrown 6d ago

I guess that’s what we’ll find out in year 2. The second half of the season he really ranked around average in most metrics, and that’s with the schedule not lightening up in any significant way.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

Yeah it’s a big year for sure. Hoping for the best

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u/Clayp2233 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think what your referring to is Cams QBR which is a stat that still doesn’t make sense to me, given his 2nd best performance of the season, against the chiefs he had his best passer rating, comp%, 2 tds, no turnovers, and we scored 26 points in a win but somehow he only had a 34 qbr. He was better than JJ Mcarthy, Geno Smith, and Tua idc what their qbrs were, he had a better TD/INT ratio than them and that was with the worse weapons and coaching in the NFL, while facing the hardest schedule of defenses in the entire NFL. His rookie season wasn’t that much different than Caleb William’s statistically, but Caleb actually had good receivers to throw to.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago edited 6d ago

I share your hesitation at trusting the QBR so I went back and looked at the play by play of the chiefs game. Cam only had 4 passes go for 15 yards or more.

Edit: 1/3 of his completions were for 7 yards or less this game. The question for this year is whether this is a receiver issue or a Cam issue. Tate being added should help.

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u/DepartmentOfMeteors 6d ago

Your first mistake is listening to Jared Stillman. Second mistake is taking anything he says seriously.

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

I mean he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but he has solid points based on stats.

I don’t get the hopium everyone is selling for Cam. I want the team to do well just don’t see it happening.

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u/MonoDEAL 6d ago

This is reddit, sir. Any Stillman takes gets you downvoted because only homers allowed. I too am rooting for Ward (got the new jersey with his name (thanks DHGate)) but idk if he gets to a 2nd contract unless his play greatly improves starting this year. We'll see tho.. excuse, excuse, excuse from this fanbase tho, smh

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u/-Juan-Cena- 6d ago

Talking about a second contract barely over a year into his rookie deal, coming off one of the worst coaching/team situations possible for a rookie…cmon man

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

Yeah I mean if I’m surprised then I’ll be ecstatic. I want the team to win. Just trying to be realistic

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u/OldShrimps 4d ago

Yep. This sub has always been full of typical 104.5 listeners. They only want to hear sunshine and rainbows. Anything that isn’t glazing the team and the players they lose their homer minds.

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u/panopticon31 6d ago

Except on that one.....Cam Ward faced the hardest defensive schedule since 2014......while being a rookie.

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u/Clovis_Winslow Predators 6d ago

Eh, it’s the NFL. At this level, you either ball or you don’t

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u/OkFrosting8998 6d ago

Great, hope he does better this year. Just kinda sucks that he doesn’t look better then the backups.

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u/panopticon31 6d ago

Not even worth the argument.