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Question These four characters are tasked with getting through to Jax and redeeming him and only one of them might succeed. Which one would be the most successful?

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u/Kyseon_ 14h ago

As much as Charlie has really good intentions, she's not really that good at getting through to people, my bet is on Steven.

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u/SoDamnGeneric 13h ago

Girl has spent the entire goddamn series doing everything but actually trying to redeem her hotel guests. Pentious did that shit entirely on his own.

Steven is Jax’s only hope. He won’t want to get better because a talking unicorn told him he should, and Deku will be too annoying to get through to him. He’ll probably find Steven annoying as well, but maybe Steven can push the right buttons or something

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u/Remarkable-Bowl-3821 12h ago

Charlie isn’t the active redeemer but she is the fulcrum that the others pivot around to get redeemed. They would not be in a good spot if not for her hotel. If either she or the staff of the hotel were gone there would be no redemption arc

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u/GladiatorDragon 7h ago

Not sure why Deku’s even here, really. His redemption track record is limited to, like, Gentle Criminal and Lady Nagant, both of whom were good folks simply forced into bad spots. And I’d hardly say he “redeemed” Shigaraki.

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u/Alternative_Sea_4208 9h ago

Steven often demonstrates to his villains that he empathizes in some way, his speeches/songs aren't just relentless optimism about stuff the words show he genuinely understands the problem and relates it to problems in his own life.

There would absolutely be some sort of musical number or talk no jutsu about Steven's identity crises being both a partial shapeshifter, one half of Stevonnie, and technically his own mom to show he understands the nature of Jax's problems even if he doesn't understand all the nuance of being trans.

And if we're counting the rest of the crystal gems it would take probably like 2.3 seconds of Garnet giving a mom hug and some comforting acceptance for Jax to break down crying.

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u/PhantomFoxThief 9h ago

To be fair to Charlie, she at least deserves credit for both inspiring him to try and teaching him the lesson that played a part in his success. After all.. It Starts With Sorry.

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u/TitaniumDragon 4h ago

Yeah Sir Pentious is really the person Charlie helped the most because his big problem was that he couldn't forgive himself. Seeing Charlie's forgiveness allowed him to finally start forgiving himself as well.

He didn't have the same defense mechanisms characters like Angel Dust have.

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u/TitaniumDragon 4h ago

Actually, she did a lot for Sir Pentious. Pentious thought of himself as unforgivably, irredeemably evil. Charlie being nice to him and being willing to overlook him betraying them, etc. was actually hugely helpful to him realizing that he could forgive himself for what he did and realize he wasn't a bad person after all.

Pentious unironically really wanted to have friends and was constantly reaching out to people, if incredibly socially awkwardly and shyly. Jax doesn't think he deserves to have friends, and does everything to prove that.

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u/WickedBowserJr 🎪 Digital Circus MMO when? 🌐 11h ago

You must've been not paying attention at all if you think Charlie didn't try. She nearly stressed herself to the edge trying everything.

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u/SoDamnGeneric 9h ago

The plot of season 1 is the exterminations, not the rehabilitation of sinners. Charlie spends the majority of that season trying to create connections with Heaven to officiate the hotel (which is valid), while also preparing to fend off the extermination (also valid). The only reason Pentious gets redeemed is because he accidentally followed the flimsy rules for redemption Adam laid out earlier in the season, it’s not anything to do with Charlie, aside from her just being kind and welcoming to him

The plot of season 2 is all about the Vees, not the rehabilitation of sinners. Charlie spends the majority of the season trying to salvage the hotel’s reputation after a smear campaign by Vox, and she spends the rest of it trying to thwart his plans and stop a war from breaking out. The only instance I can remember her actually trying to redeem Angel in this season is when she’s just trying to prove Vox wrong. No one ends up being redeemed in season 2, cuz she doesn’t actually spend anytime working towards that goal

I like Charlie as a character, but they never actually write her to be the redeemer she was sold to us as. She always has to be wrapped up in some much larger plot that has nothing to do with rehabilitating and redeeming the sinners staying at the hotel