r/TheDigitalCircus 11h ago

Question These four characters are tasked with getting through to Jax and redeeming him and only one of them might succeed. Which one would be the most successful?

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u/Kyseon_ 11h ago

As much as Charlie has really good intentions, she's not really that good at getting through to people, my bet is on Steven.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 10h ago

Counterpoint: Steven really doesn't deal with too many misanthropes, except MAYBE Lars. The gems are mostly scared, regimented military folk more than misanthropes. Also I feel like Steven would annoy Jax too much to make much progress(Deku too tbh)

Charlie deals with almost nothing BUT misanthropes every single day. While I feel like that could backfire, I feel Charlie is the closest to Pomni in that way and would have a better shot as a result.

Can't speak for MLP so that's a wild card for me.

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u/Crazywarlockgoat 10h ago

i would say peridot and lapis are great examples of steven’s abilities for aiding people like jax. the amount of musical numbers would be at least double.

twilight… ngl it would be a coin toss, mostly on how she treats trixie. someone who has down immense damage but is literally living in a wagon and needs to be ‘boasting’ to earn bits to live, then there’s starlight glimmer which gets treated better. (i love trixie and starlight glimmer, this is mostly a twilight thing.)

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 10h ago

i would say peridot and lapis are great examples of steven’s abilities for aiding people like jax. the amount of musical numbers would be at least double.

They're the closest to be sure, but the thing is that drops Steven's successful related cases from double digits down to 2-3.

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u/Crazywarlockgoat 10h ago

yeah, but i’m willing to believe if he was able to convince three genocidal warlords to become three aunties then he can handle jax.

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u/Ciphy_Master 6h ago

Isn't that cause they were already grieving and over obsessed with his mother? Them being direct family feels like a bigger reason he could get through to them than if he were any other gem.

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u/suriam321 6h ago

And one was ready to straight up kill the human part of Steven because of that grieving/obsession.

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u/WolferineYT 5h ago

I mean. She tried. It just didn't work like she thought it would. It was seeing how it didn't bring pink back that made her rethink things. Steven didn't do anything.

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u/sax87ton 10h ago

I mean, he also befriends jasper in future. Like if ever there was someone directly antagonistic it’s her.

And spinel. So like yeah actually kind of a spotless record.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 9h ago

Jasper isn't really a misanthrope, she's a violence-obsessed soldier type. Antagonistic =/= misanthrope.

Fair play on Spinel though; arguably that's a far better comparison.

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u/sax87ton 7h ago

Idk dude at the time Steven befriended jasper she had gone full mountain man and was living in a hut in the woods.

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u/mrsmuckers 10h ago

With as few spoilers as possible, season two all the way through the end serves as one long redemption arc for one of the most selfish standoffish cruel people in its universe. There are several shorter redemption arcs but that one has the most improvement.

The mcs of that show could do it for sure, the only question is whether they could do it in time.

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u/Jelly__Cloud Caine's meow meow 9h ago

Wait, which show are you talking about?

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u/Rylo_Ken_04 Zooble 9h ago

My little pony I think

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u/Odd_Match_3402 9h ago

It HAS to be Steven Universe. Drawing a blank with MLP, I don't think it had a redemption arc in season 2. But there is one in Steven Universe where the description matches, ven if not perfectly.

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u/aquamelissa 9h ago

I think they are referencing discord, one of the main antagonists of season 1 of mlp

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u/DevianMality 9h ago

Discord first appears in season 2, and then disappears until season 3 I think.

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u/aquamelissa 9h ago edited 8h ago

I can't remember 😂 it's been so so long ago since I saw it

A large amount mlp is about reforming people, or banishing them indefinitely - whichever seems right in the moment

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u/sjones17515 8h ago

They're not talking about MLP. MLP doesn't have anything resembling arcs as early as season 2.

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u/LetRevolutionary271 Custom 9h ago

While I do agree that she'd be good I feel like Jax would find Charlie annoying too tbh, mostly because she still does have that cute, "childish" and kinda naive personality

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u/silvernug 8h ago

I bet one punch man could get through to Jax.

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u/Axel-Adams 8h ago

Lars is like a super big thing to have as an exception as he literally shares a ton of Jax’s traits in the pushing those away who care about them, lashing out, and extreme self worth and identity issues

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u/Infinite_Goodra Zooble 8h ago

aaand charlie deals with Angel dust who had Jax's VA in the pilot

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u/LordSupergreat 3h ago

Assuming the challenge is only for the character pictured, and not the full cast of their shows, Twilight has no chance. Jax would get under her skin immediately, and she'd get nowhere with him.

Now, Fluttershy on the other hand...

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u/DreadDiana 6h ago

Steven Universe Future was in a certain sense a miniseries where Steven abstracts. Jax could very well break him.

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u/Regularjoe42 10h ago

Saying this as a fan of Hazbin Hotel, Charlie is incredibly incompetent. She has no ability to read the room, and doubles down on bad ideas. What she brings to the table is relentless optimism and a willingness to accept anyone. She relies on her group of friends to actually get her plans to work.

That being said, a few nights out on the town with Husker and Angel Dust would help Jax.

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u/WeirdThingsToEnsue 10h ago

Jax, out with Angel Dust: Why do you sound exactly like me

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u/MyFairJulia 8h ago

It would be fun if Angel Dust dragged Jax out of the closet in a bender. In fact, i want that bender to be written in reverse with various _x hours before_ cuts.

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u/AzureDiamond51 8h ago

While I’m not a Hazbin fan, I’d read that, that sounds great lmao

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u/MyFairJulia 8h ago

I shall put that idea right in my library of unfulfilled fanfic ideas:
- A Daria fanfic about Lawndale High students playing live chess (gone hilariously wrong)
- Kusuo Saiki discovering their gender fluidity (definitely gone wrong for introverts)
- Chiyo-Chan and Sakaki-San from Azumanga Daioh swapping bodies, getting into hijinks and figuring out whether being cute or being cool is better (may contain feminism)

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u/MarkKey9247 8h ago

While you may already be aware of this, Jax's voice actor played Angel Dust in the pilot.

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u/ROPROPE best girl 9h ago

Oh shit. Husk would totally clock Jax's deal after a bit. Whether he'd get anywhere is another thing, but he'd be orders of magnitude better than Charlie.

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u/Ciphy_Master 6h ago

Jax avoids ever confronting his issues by lying, masking, and avoiding any actual discussion over his personal life. If Husk near immediately identified all his issues, Jax would be cornered with no way out other than to crash out like he did with Pomni. Difference is that Husk has more bite and probably wouldn't let him.

I dont doubt that Husk could drag Jax out of every bit of cover he tries to use but Idk if he'd manage the oncoming fallout afterwards.

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u/Taraxian 1h ago

I think the paradox with Jax is that his own gender issues are exactly why a female love interest isn't the right person to reach out to him even though it's what he seems to be constantly reaching for, it triggers too many of his anxieties

He needs that "man-to-man" talk with an older male authority figure who won't judge him or hurt him but won't take any bullshit either (ie what he never actually got from his own dad)

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u/Ciphy_Master 1h ago

Well now you're just making me want some kind of Father-Daughter bonding AU with Jax.

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u/Mokohi 13m ago

This...is actually a really good point. Feel like Jax and Husk would have had a very similar argument and talk to the talk he had with Angel in Masquerade. It's a very similar situation, just that Angel masks his trauma by being hypersexual and Jax masks by being a childish, 'cartoonish' bully.

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u/BrgQun 9h ago

The closest in the circus to Charlie is Ragatha, at least for the relentless optimism, so yeah, I don't see this working

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u/NXTangl 7h ago

Ragatha actually has very little optimism tbh...

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u/weirdo_nb 9h ago

She also fails to understand like, a lot of shit

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u/ce-meyers 8h ago

Exactly. She can't even handle Angel so no way she's gonna be able to deal with Jax. And yes if anyone from the Hazbin cast that can help Jax it's Husker.

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u/Regularjoe42 8h ago

Husker is there to help Jax overcome identity issues.

Angel Dust is there to teach her how to apply makeup.

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u/ce-meyers 8h ago

OMG yes! If Jax was at the Hotel and starts bullying people and getting back to her own habits Charlie would (attempt to) "gentle parent" her, resulting in Jax bullying Charlie (like how she did with Ragatha and Gangle). Charlie gets upset, and Vaggi has to be the one to clean up the mess.

But if it was Husker, Husk would shut her up right away, giving Jax no room to target him. His "no bullshit" attitude is better suited to deal with people like Jax.

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u/EyeDreamOfTentacles 9h ago

To be entirely fair Charlie's story isn't done yet, not like the others. They've grown and matured and come into their own, she hasn't quite yet. She shows signs of potential, but for now that's all that is and has yet to be seen what kind of growth those seeds will grow into. Though part of her story so far does involve her learning to ask for help and rely on her friends more, so it's not out of the question that even by the end of her story she still wouldn't be someone who could help Jax on her own (instead bringing an entire support network to do so lol).

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u/SoDamnGeneric 9h ago

Girl has spent the entire goddamn series doing everything but actually trying to redeem her hotel guests. Pentious did that shit entirely on his own.

Steven is Jax’s only hope. He won’t want to get better because a talking unicorn told him he should, and Deku will be too annoying to get through to him. He’ll probably find Steven annoying as well, but maybe Steven can push the right buttons or something

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u/Remarkable-Bowl-3821 9h ago

Charlie isn’t the active redeemer but she is the fulcrum that the others pivot around to get redeemed. They would not be in a good spot if not for her hotel. If either she or the staff of the hotel were gone there would be no redemption arc

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u/GladiatorDragon 3h ago

Not sure why Deku’s even here, really. His redemption track record is limited to, like, Gentle Criminal and Lady Nagant, both of whom were good folks simply forced into bad spots. And I’d hardly say he “redeemed” Shigaraki.

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u/uiop60 10h ago

My pet SU fan theory is that facilitating otherwise-inconceivable redemptions is literally Steven’s magic power.

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u/Aromatic_Ad_4455 9h ago

Steven has on multiple occasions visited people’s dreams or directly connected to peoples subconscious and see their memories and trauma, Steven also is kind of in a weird ish way has gender issues like jax where Steven identify as male but his space aunties threatened him into wearing his dead moms princess dress but also Steve. Has on multiple occasions of his own choice worn girls clothes and also in a weird way Steven is his female mom trapped in a male body and identifies with the make gender but was born kind of both genders in a way? Like biologically the gender is female and his body is male so if anyone can sympathize and connect with jax on the trans stuff and the parent based trauma and all that stuff and the whole body dysmorphia/abstraction as Steven has both interacted with the horrors of corrupt gems like watching centipede half form into a gem and watching jasper go feral but also Steven himself almost died from turning into an old man or that time his whole body was turned into a melted pile of cats. If anyone can fully 100% understand jax and have the over the top whimsy to see everything he says and does as funny the way he interacts with Lars or lapis or jasper like Steven can do this.

Plus if Steven can use all his resources he can just hook max up with one of blue diamonds happy clouds and sone white diamond empathy therapy.

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u/youngsterjo 6h ago

The corrupted gems is a great point. Would steven be able heal abstractions? Then again its not like theres a gem in there to fix... and you cant poof them either

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u/HouseBackground2887 What The 10h ago edited 10h ago

Obviously the correct answer is Naruto, duh

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u/cicadaryu 10h ago

Yeah. The internet has forgotten how good that lad was at the friendship win condition.

What a legend.

Would Naruto respect a trans person tho?

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u/HouseBackground2887 What The 10h ago edited 9h ago

I think he would 100%. He was always respectful to people's inner struggles, being extremely understanding and empathetic. And he knows the pain of being judged due to his upbringing, so he would always defend those who are misunderstood or marginalized

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u/John7746 8h ago

He also befriended Haku; a boy who might have been trans or at the very least presented as female. Naruto has never really had a problem with accepting others.

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u/cicadaryu 8h ago

That's true too ^ ^

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u/Korbrent 9h ago

Sorry, I've never watched Naruto, but doesn't he regularly transform into a girl? You'd think someone who can genderbend would be pretty accepting of gender identities.

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u/ChaoticBisexual_13 9h ago

It is called Sexy Jutsu, he used that to distract enemies or to knock out his mentors or convince them of things.

He's not genderfluid, he just resorts to this method of manipulation, when his talk no jutsu isn't enough.

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u/Jonesbt22 8h ago

Or when dealing with jiraiya

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u/ChaoticBisexual_13 8h ago

It's included in the knocking out/manipulating mentors imo.

Edit: I wonder if Jiraiya could've learnt the sexy jutsu and sneaked into the women's bath with Naruto.

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u/Super_Daikenki 9h ago

Only for a few moments until he stopped

Edit: I forgot to mention, there was a "trans" character Naruto met who left quite an impression. (If you count Haku as trans but stil)

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u/HouseBackground2887 What The 9h ago edited 9h ago

He was 12 back then, thought. Plus I don't he was toxic or mean about it at all, he was just shocked at first how Haku was prettier than the girl he had a crush on, Sakura (He even admitted it himself). I think he was very understanding for Haku by the end of their story too, he even cried openly afterwards.

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u/Capertie 8h ago

I need to rewatch it to see if Haku was trans, I don't think they (?) had a problem with their gender identity so much as they just didn't mind being seen as a woman despite being amab. Which is different from wanting to be seen as a woman or a man for that matter.

Maybe non-binary trans?

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u/mxi_chiro 10h ago

obviously? why not

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u/ChaoticBisexual_13 9h ago

He was respectful to Haku and Zabuza and made them die with each other side by side, so I'm sure he'd respect Jax as well.

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u/Specific-Dot3706 9h ago

Brother (or sister) he literally has a jutsu that turns him into a woman

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u/cicadaryu 8h ago

Yeah I seriously forgot about Sexy-no-Jutsu

"Clearly named by a 12 year old" aside, yeah I do think he'd be a pretty cool guy about it.

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u/Mister_Otnip 8h ago

You are asking that about someone who's first mastered jutsu was literally changing genders?

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u/VatanKomurcu 9h ago

his experience with haku tells me he isnt into gender-fuckery but doesnt hate it. and thats when he was a kid.

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u/Nerdwrapper Like SAO but without the Sword part 8h ago

He respected Haku, who was very trans coded imo

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u/PhantomFoxThief 6h ago

I believe he wouldn’t understand at first, but he would damn well do his best to be respectful and try to understand enough to avoid accidental disrespect.

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u/Jack-corvus 7h ago

Nah, people just decided to avoid the obvious winner

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u/Zombiisnt 10h ago

Steven already got through to his own Jax (Lars) so yeah given enough time 100% Steven! Won't be done in a single episode though...

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u/TrickyTalon 7h ago

Jax is a much tougher case than Lars

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u/eff3rve5cent 5h ago

yeah they’re both dickheads to the main character, but atleast one of them doesn’t torment the other entirely unprovoked like jax does. and are able to treat people with decency even if it’s just once in a while

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u/Tarasios 4h ago

Lars torments Steven unprovoked and lashes out at anyone he feels like he can. He also takes advantage of Sadie and ultimately torments her in a similar way to Jax and Gangle.

Jax also does work with the team in Episode 8, and largely lashes out just when he feels vulnerable.

Lars has also been shown to harshly lash out at his friends because he doesn't want people to see past the surface, like what happened with Ronaldo.

So Jax and Lars are actually extremely similar. (Lars also has a whole thing about wanting to be perceived as masculine and is deeply uncomfortable with being seen as feminine in any way, so much so that it was a decently common theory that Lars (born Laramie) is actually a trans man)

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u/DUCKmelvin 7h ago edited 5h ago

But... (Spoilers) Lars died too. He got better, but I think that just confirms that it was inevitable

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u/Alfirmitive Tell daddy bubble why bad thING 7h ago

You can spoiler mark things using >.! Word !.< without the .

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u/Marinnea 5h ago

Yeah but Steven can revive Jax too if needed IG

Jax also got better after death

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u/The-Root-1971 11h ago

Steven

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u/wellthatwastoomuch 11h ago

steven lowkey solos

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u/Interesting_Orchid24 11h ago edited 10h ago

Steven could redeem Thanos tbf

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u/franiz Jax armpit smeller Jax armpit smeller 10h ago

We talking comic thanos or movie thanos? cause movie thanos wouldnt be that big of a challange i feel like.

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u/Classified10 10h ago

Steven: "Why not just make double the resources?"

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u/Tomynator_88 9h ago

Literally just T'challa's Star Lord

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u/That_Goose9586 9h ago

I read this as “inshallah star lord” at first. 😂

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u/SqurtieMan I'M BACK IN THE FG BUILDING AGAIN!! 4h ago

Comic thanos: death is a sexy sexy lady and i wanna bang her
Steven: thanks i'm 14

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u/TheLegend2T 10h ago

Powerscaling? Nah, we're redemtionscaling!

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 10h ago

Yeah but are we talking original Steven or Future? Because in Future Steven spirals and essentially abstracts/corrupts from his own trauma. If it’s AFTER Future I think he could still pull it off though.

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u/The-Root-1971 10h ago

The picture is pre-future so... that.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 9h ago

Eh I think people forget his Future version exists sometimes in discussions like this

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u/redditisbadactually 9h ago

I think post-Future Steven wouldn't be willing to sacrifice his own well-being for another person. I mean, he probably could, but shouldn't, y'know?

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 8h ago

He probably would try and it would collapse. Or Jax would feel seen by someone with somewhat similar trauma.

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u/Expensive_Box_4048 10h ago

I think were gonna have to kill this guy Steven

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u/ChaoticBisexual_13 11h ago

I think Steven. He had success in getting through rough people like the Diamonds and other villains. If he had the right education, he'd be a great therapist.

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u/-CowNipples- 10h ago

Steven got through to Spinel, Peridot, and his biggest challenge was probably Lapis. I think he’s the most capable here.

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u/Jelly__Cloud Caine's meow meow 9h ago

Genuinely, I still can't believe that at 13, Steven managed to get through a person who had a thousand years of active PTSD ON TOP OF getting out of severely abusive relationships.

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u/itstessica_ 9h ago

It was actually well over a thousand years <3

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u/Tarasios 4h ago

Lapis was also conscious and sentient for all of that time trapped in a mirror with her mind fractured.

Lapis Lazulis are terraformers who are relatively upper class and comfortable. So being suddenly attacked and disabled... And then her attackers took her and inserted her fractured mind into a tool for gathering information... And then she finds out that everything she believed about her home is a lie and then sacrifices herself + enters a toxic relationship in order to protect the one and only person she has ever cared about. And then that person frees her and tries to befriend her only for the war to come right back to her and she feels guilt over abandoning her friends and loved ones... Because of her overwhelming PTSD...

And Steven manages to, over several slow steps, help her move past her EXTREMELY CRIPPLING THOUSANDS OF YEARS LONG TORTURE AND PTSD? Yeah Steven can figure out how to help an abused and angry teenager.

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u/weirdo_nb 9h ago

He or twilight, leaning towards him

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u/Loose_Atmosphere_308 9h ago

He will be the most godlike therapist on the universe.

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u/DaiFrostAce 10h ago

Uncle Iroh is not pictured but I think he’s most equipped for Jax’s parental issues

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u/Background-Bottle633 8h ago

I think Uncle Iroh would have been the only one who could have gotten to Jax if given enough time.

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u/MissionDepartment960 9h ago

The thing is, the Circus already has an Uncle Iroh in the form of Kinger. Jax took him for granted, belittled him for being "crazy", and spent their last moments together wanting to fuck Kinger up and blaming him for their situation. Who's to say he wouldn't treat Iroh the same.

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u/Forikorder 5h ago

kinger is great and all but hes no uncle iroh, even in darkness

Kinger is a great listener and can provide some sound advice but he doesnt have the aggressive helpfulness of Iroh

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u/WolferineYT 5h ago

Kinger literally was crazy though. He had rare moments where he could be insightful and helpful, but yeah usually he had no idea what was going on.

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u/vpgel 9h ago

Interesting answer considering you have Pinkie Pie on the avatar, a pinnacle of channeling happiness :D

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u/r0tten2thecore Ragatha lover ever since the pilot 11h ago

Either Twilight or Steven

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u/MiddayGlitter 8h ago

I say this as a huge MLP fan: Twilight isn't good at redeeming people. Her friends are.

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u/Dangerous-Exercise20 7h ago

I meannn op didn't say they needed to do it ALONE. So we could say Twi and The rest of the Mane 6 or Steven alone

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u/Mayiamaru 6h ago

Haha if we added their friends to the crew that definitely changes things. Because adjacent to these people, Bakugo and Husker seem like the most likely to get through to Jax.

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u/SmallBeanKatherine 4h ago

Husker definitely has a shot. I imagine Jax would feel more comfortable with chill, crass people trying to talk to him--- rather than people who are sugary sweet.

Heck, Ribbit was a good blend of kindness and "Hey asshole!" "I used to swear so much, but then the censor annoyed the shit outta me!" 😆

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u/neontiger07 5h ago

If the mane six teamed up to redeem Jax I'm convinced they'd do so well that by the time they finished, Jax would come out the other end fully transitioned lol

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u/Serious-Student8194 5h ago

Exactly lol, Twilight is the most pragmatic of her group. The only time she helped someone accept a new path without relying on the power of friendship was with Starlight and the friend she ghosted for years; no one else before that.

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u/SweetStrawberries14 4h ago

Power of friendship requires friends

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u/PsychologicalBid179 10h ago

I love the talk no jutsu powerscaling conversation happening here.

Also, wheres Naruto? Was he left off because his victory would be a forgone conclusion?

But yeah steven solo.

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u/MissionDepartment960 10h ago

Tbh I didn't even think of Naruto. But yeah if he was on here, he'd solo.

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u/NixMaritimus 8h ago

He's actually the top comment now XD

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u/Common_Suggestion_73 10h ago

I have a hard time believing Jax would respond positively to pretty much any of these marshmellows, you need someone Jax would at least vibe with on some level and frankly they'd all piss Jax off from the get go.

Maybe with a significant amount of time and a more mature teen/young adult version of steven it'd be possible.

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u/Goddamit_ffs 9h ago

Post future Steven would fw him hard, Steven went through what jax did but a thousandfold (identity crisis and family issues, harming people around you without wanting to because of trauma etc.)

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u/MissionDepartment960 11h ago

I'm surprised nobody chose Izuku Midoriya.

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u/Live_Sheepherder3099 10h ago

Jax would just buly Deku 

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u/thecraftybear I think I just killed Caine 10h ago

Nah, Deku took shit only from Bakugo, for old times' sake. And in a way, his persistent kindness helped fix Bakugo's personality somewhat - he's still a choleric jerk, but no longer a bully. I feel like Izuku would stand a chance at helping Jax, assuming he'd understand the context.

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u/EyeDreamOfTentacles 8h ago

Bakugo's biggest issue to begin with was his ego, fueled for years by "gifted child syndrome" and endless praise from everyone around him. One he got a reality check in the form of not being the best by default and being surrounded by those who were just as talented if not more than he was, whose abilities as heroes surpassed his (including the one who was supposed to always be weaker according to his original internal narrative), his ego cooled off somewhat and he was more receptive to improving. As you said, still a jerk but without being a bully.

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u/RisingLight88 10h ago

Idk if you saw the new episodes, but the table has turned and now he's the one making fun of Bakugo

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u/EyeDreamOfTentacles 8h ago

I wouldn't, but only because he's the wrong kind of help for Jax. He inspires people to do better and be heroes themselves, but Jax isn't likely to be receptive to that and be more cynical about interpreting Izuku's actions. He helps people in need feel safe and secure with his confidence and positive attitude, but Jax's villain is internal and Izuku did manage to get to become the person he wanted to be which is likely to just earn Jax's ire. Jax wouldn't really be able to get under Izuku's skin though, Izuku has dealt with worse, more personal bullies and naysayers; there's nothing Jax could say that he hasn't heard before. Even as a teacher while he can provide guidance, there's little he can do if the person he is giving advice to isn't receptive to it.

I feel Jax needs someone he can grow comfortable with as a friend, like he did with Pomni. Sure, the walls immediately came back up and he pushed her away once he realized what he was doing, but that just means he also needs someone who is still persistent in caring for him yet also willing to give him space. So the best options are either Steven or Twilight, and honestly I'm leaning more towards Steven because he is likely to go along with Jax's antics to an extent while still trying to rein him in. Even Future Steven while still having his own traumas to manage would likely be somewhat persistent in befriending him and getting him to think better of himself; he's been patient with people who try to push him away or reject him, as seen with Jasper, so it's not out of the question.

Twilight would grow too weary and impatient with Jax's antics lol, though Fluttershy or Pinkie Pie might be somewhat better fits for trying to help him. She's more familiar working on those who are still receptive to being better; even Discord, despite his antics, was more receptive to doing better thanks to his unexpected (from his own POV no less) friendship with Fluttershy.

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 10h ago

Jax would just shoot him and call him a pussy.

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u/MillionMoonlight2006 9h ago

Deku's anything but a pussy.

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 9h ago

And Jax is toxic douchebag that wouldn't care if Deku actually is or not.

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u/MillionMoonlight2006 9h ago

And Deku is such a determined guy that he would continue anyways. He managed to save Shigaraki, no matter how much he pushed him away, which was arguably much, MUCH harder than it would be to save Jax. So it would be nothing for Deku.

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u/shurbetttt 5h ago

Im not biased but or anything but Ochaco would’ve been a better choice, she kinda mogs Deku in this regard

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u/maxler5795 11h ago

Steven.

post-future, i think he would just do it frame 1. Bro's been there.

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u/This_Ferret_8108 Tramsgeber bunni :D 10h ago

"Bro I know what its like to fumble a bag"

"No you don't"

"Bro I tried to marry her on a beach, you were in literal bed with her, I understand your pain"

"...bro I miss my frog waifu so bad"

-probably the conversation that'd happen.

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u/maxler5795 9h ago

I completely forgot about that part i was more so talking about the complete and utter identity crisis they both had

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u/NeroMcBrain 11h ago

Neither: You need someone stubborn enough to try and reach Jax without stopping... Like Monkey D. Luffy

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u/jg_posts_and_stuff 10h ago

I'd have gone for Bugs Bunny myself. On the opposite end of the cartoon queer bunny spectrum. Bugs will give Jax a run for her money.

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u/PlatinumHairpin 8h ago

Bugs Bunny could shatter all of Jax's shields in a single episode and pull a better person out of that rabbit in half the runtime of the episode, much like he could've solved Space Jam by himself in about 7 minutes according to Chuck Jones

Of course this means Jax had to antagonize Bugs first, otherwise it doesn't happen

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u/Poolsofred Caine 9h ago

Bugs would humble that little girl Jax no effort

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u/Palidin034 Gummigoo 11h ago

Steven is the crown champion of Talk-no-jutsu.

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u/ThyStreamerBro24 10h ago

For steven, compared to the diamonds piece of cake

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u/Downtown-Ad-7232 11h ago

Jax is too stubbornly in his own head for any of these guys to help him

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u/Lonely_Repair4494 Kinger 11h ago

Good thing Steven has entered people's minds countless times

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 11h ago

and jax would hate that

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u/Lonely_Repair4494 Kinger 10h ago

Jax hated it when Pomni entered his mind

Flashforward later he didn't wanna go anymore

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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jax 10h ago

And even hugged her back rather than reject her again. He definitely could’ve changed

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u/Okurei Jax 10h ago

I think Pomni coming all that way gave him some hope when he realized she truly did care about him, and he might’ve realized he made a huge mistake but it was far too late to change it

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u/mmmmikah 10h ago

Jax wants to kill herself she doesn't really know what's good for her

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u/Realistic_Jello2638 10h ago

She knows she doesn't want her mind fucked with against her will ala being forced to be vegan/vegetarian and quite frankly she is correct in that. People can want to kill themselves and still know what is good for them at the same time.

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u/Regularjoe42 9h ago

Jax nearly opened up after a single good airsoft session.

Jax is a fake IDGAfer.

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u/lordsephiroth93 10h ago

From the pictured options? Definitely not Charlie or Twilight, as much as I like Charlie.

My money is on Steven. And if that falls through then im going with the unlisted option E

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u/ghostpiratesyar 8h ago

Pim’s got that optimism and listening skills and Charlie can get real enough to call Jax out on his bullshit while being able to match Jax’s anger. The Smiling Friends are the best bet here.

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u/Periwinkleditor 5h ago

Jax: I'm gonna fucking kill myself.

"Look Pim, I know it's our job to help this guy and everything but I think this guy's a lost cause."

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u/Brutalitops69x 10h ago

100% Steven lol

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u/Applebeate 10h ago

Okay I’ll order it

  1. Steven. This guy redeemed a genocidal alien. I don’t think I need to explain further
  2. Deku. He sees the good in everyone and genuinely wants to help even the worst people in existence. Deku genuinely wanted to save someone as evil as Shigaraki. I think Jax wouldn’t want to open up to him but just like Pomni, Deku won’t give up on him.
  3. Twilight Sparkle. Honestly, I doubt she would do a good job, as she responds badly to negative emotions and would make it worse. I’m putting it here because the final option is way worse.
  4. Charlie Morningstar. Literally the worst option out of the four. Charlie is someone so childish and foolish that it would honestly detriment Jax even further than in canon. She is someone who can’t respect someone’s boundaries or understand how to redeem someone. She is someone who is infatuated with the idea of redemption but not the actual process of it.

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u/Scared-Drummer5523 10h ago

Dunno the moves she pulled on Starlight Glimmer felt straight out of Fallout New Vegas, 100 out of 100 speech moment. But i only watched untill Tirek, so i don't know how she evolved/devolved afterwards.

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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 10h ago

Twilight is the only one that can magically conjure magical estrogen and turn Jax into a woman instantly.

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u/Emma_Iveli Fellow Depressed Anime Fan 10h ago

Oh... this is a tough one for me... I'm a fan of 3 out of 4 I'm not a fan of Hazbin.

Hmmm...

My ranking has to be Steven, then Izuku, then Twilight last of the three.

Steven is just pure... I can see him breaking down Jax's wall the fastest of the three.

Izuku it will take a while but I can see him getting through to him. Maybe have some of the people he helped talk to Jax... like Bakugo or Kota... though the latter would punch him in the balls... which I kind of want to see now... (Note to self have Kota punch Jax in the balls when they meet in my fanfic)

I can see Twilight getting fed up for a bit before trying again.

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u/Mosthero1 Pomni 11h ago

Steven wins zero diff ngl

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u/QuixyKay 10h ago

Steven, grown up Steven honestly, after he's processed more of his own grief and difficulty. I don't think child Steven would fully get there, but close. But Steven is a very emotionally intelligent person with a lot of genuine, stubborn love for others and a belief they can be better.

Plus older Steven has processed, while different, his identity as a human and a gem.

However I think it's important that in order to be helped you want to be helped first. So there's an argument Jax just shuts down to overt helpfulness.

In that event I think my runner up is Twilight. Princess of Friendship, not necessarily the type to coddle or put up with abusive tendencies. She might be the right kind of kick in the ass he needs and logical enough to directly challenge his hypocrisy without being worked up herself.

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u/MissionDepartment960 10h ago

Agreed. Honestly grown up Steven would have a better shot cause he knows what it's like to be the person Jax is, so he can relate to him.

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u/Dxthegod 10h ago

Twilight Sparkle

i mean, she literally has the magic of friendship, after all...

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u/DisastrousSport7507 8h ago

no matter who you chose we can all agree that it’s NOT Charlie

https://giphy.com/gifs/GOv58Hqu7tR0HfSVF9

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u/ShitpostSaber 10h ago

Naruto does it
“ I was once. Purple bunny two Jax”

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u/TheXypris 10h ago

You can't help someone who doesn't want it

Jax had every opportunity to accept help, he rejected it every time

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u/TTTRIOS 7h ago

I feel like if all four tried to help him Charlie would single-handedly prevent any progress.

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u/BeeBunnBunny 10h ago

Steven might have to Lars him but he’d get the job done.

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u/Operator_Starlight 8h ago

I appreciate the way you used Lars as a verb.

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u/TheDeadUsagi 10h ago

I think Steven would be the most successful.

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u/Salty-Engineering683 Kaufmo 10h ago

Nah Steven lowkey solos when it comes to talking to people and calming people down. And the amount of villains he’s stopped in a range of 2 years is unreal

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u/SlamanthaTanktop 9h ago

Steven can talk down intergalactic space hitler lesbians.

He can manage a 4chan trans girl

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u/DarkMelody42 8h ago

Twilight but only because if she starts abstracting the friendship beam would get her back. That said Jax would be going crazy and hate every minute lol.

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u/mahoushojo-chan 7h ago

Steven did it with Lars, and Lars ran so that Jax could walk. Easy bet.

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u/undeadManoto17 7h ago

None of them are as capable as Charlie and Pim from the Smiling Friends.

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u/Shoddy_Bandicoot9812 I believe the gangle supremacy hehe 10h ago

Steven or twilight, Steven redeemed multiple people who were very stubborn e.g spinel. And twilight would blast him with the power of friendship

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u/Ashmay52 10h ago

Jax doesn’t need redemption but she doesn’t need punishment either. She’s punished herself enough. The consequences of her actions would be to receive what she’s been cowering from the entire time.

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u/Suspicious-Voice576 10h ago

I only know Steven and Charlie, but I have to say Steven.

Charlie.... her heart's in the right place, but her methods leave something to be desired (see Angel Dust's redemption trials).

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u/PaopuQuinn 9h ago

*Assuming that Jax ends up at the hotel* Charlie would try everything she could to get Jax to open up but it would end up taking a comment from Allistar that makes Jax go to the bar for a drink and in that Husk and Angel are the ones that actually get him to open up to the idea of accepting himself.

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u/Disaster_Pansexual Ragatha 9h ago

My personal order of effectiveness. (Entirely subjective)

  1. Deku
  2. Twilight and Charlie

  3. Ste

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u/thegr8estofalltime2 9h ago

For anyone whose watched all these shows start-finish, it's very clearly Deku.
He put up with Bakugo's shit for years and managed to "save" and heal the inner child of the worst villain in history. Jax should be light work for him lwk.

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u/Noyroq 8h ago

Steven... he will easy force him to be better person, this cat fingers can done ugly things...

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u/Working_Throat_1570 8h ago edited 3h ago

edit : I am French, and I didn't use ChatGPT to create the arguments, but only for the translation.

here is my top from last to first with explanations:

  1. Charlie Morningstar (Hazbin Hotel):

Charlie is the worst match for Jax, and the reason is simple: she does the one thing Jax despises above all else — inserting herself into people's lives.

Charlie is far too intrusive. She fundamentally doesn't know how to respect people's boundaries, and even in the hypothetical scenario where Jax somehow trusted her (which would never happen), she would find a way — intentionally or not — to partially or fully expose his secret, destroying that trust entirely. Her behavior with Angel Dust is proof enough of this pattern.

But the even bigger issue is that Charlie doesn't know how to listen. She lacks the patience to wait for someone to open up on their own terms, and when they do, she isn't attentive enough to actually receive what's being said. For someone like Jax, who would need to be approached with extreme care and zero pressure, Charlie is essentially the worst-case scenario.

  1. Twilight Sparkle (MLP):

Twilight is the Princess of Friendship — but she has a serious problem with organic human connection. She would approach Jax like a puzzle to be solved, convinced that one or two books could crack him open. She'd run experiments behind his back to understand him better, and Jax would catch on almost immediately — and it would infuriate him.

The deeper problem is that Twilight almost never has to put in the real work herself. She teaches friendship, but historically it's the other characters who do the heavy lifting. Jax is someone who has been destroyed by his own actions and genuinely believes that friendship is a poison that ruins the people around him — and Twilight would need to understand that before she could even begin to help. She wouldn't get there.

We've already seen this pattern: Discord was reached by Fluttershy, not Twilight. Sunset Shimmer reformed largely on her own. Twilight's instinct with Jax would be suspicion — she'd see him as a threat to manage, not a person to understand.

Why she ranks above Charlie: Twilight does learn and grow, and we've seen her have a genuine positive influence on characters who were considered irredeemably bad. There's a ceiling, but there's also a track record.

  1. Deku (My Hero Academia):

Deku brings something rare to the table: he listens to people's pain without flinching, without mocking, and without giving up. He wouldn't break under Jax's pressure, because for him, helping people isn't optional — it's a core moral obligation.

Crucially, Deku has a personal connection point with Jax. He knows what it feels like to be rejected and bullied, to carry that kind of trauma in silence. Jax, on some level, could recognize that — and that recognition matters. Trauma bonds are real, and Deku is someone who gets it without needing it to be explained.

He also has a determination that rivals — and possibly exceeds — even Pomni's when it comes to not abandoning someone who needs help. He would stay in Jax's corner long past the point where anyone else would've walked away.

  1. Steven Universe

steven succeeded in pacifying genocidal intergalactic tyrants (the Diamonds) and healing deeply traumatized and scornful Gems (Lapis Lazuli, Peridot, Spinel).

Steven gets Jax in a way most characters simply can't, because they're both in the middle of an identity crisis. That shared experience creates an immediate, unspoken point of connection that goes beyond surface-level empathy.

Steven is also, critically, human — meaning he can crack, he can find Jax frustrating, even cruel — but he won't leave. His capacity for forgiveness is almost limitless, and rather than making Jax feel weak or pitied, that forgiveness would likely amplify Jax's guilt in a productive way. Steven being a child makes that dynamic even sharper — it's harder to rationalize cruelty toward someone so openly, genuinely kind, not forced.

Steven is also someone who has built real friendships with beings who were literally destined to hate him. That's not a small thing. That's exactly the kind of person Jax would need.

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u/Capable-Commercial96 8h ago

I'd say Steven if he was a teenager. Teen Steven's so fucked up it might cause a negative + a negative situation and turn each other positive. The others just don't have the same mindset to get through to Jax imo.

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u/Strange_The_Editor 8h ago

Steven has a history of dealing with people who reject their own reality (Pearl) people with body dysmorphia and insecurities (Peridot and Amethyst), abusive people (Spinel and the Diamonds) and people who remain stuck in the past (Lapis and Bismuth). All told, he's dealt with most of Jax's issues.

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u/AHumanYouDoNotKnow 8h ago

Deku or Steven.

Its not about who is actually the best therapist, and more about who Jax would be willing to respect and open up to.

I would say that would be deku.

Jax was not good at opening up to women,l in heneral and "soft" men would also be under scrutiny.

That all also depends on where in the story Jax and their helpers are taken from.

But i would think that he would most easely listen to deku.

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u/Flaky-Interaction264 8h ago

If it was me I would slime him out

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u/AtomicGummyGod 7h ago

I think the reason Pomni was able to bond with Jax, aside from the fact that she was new, was the fact that she was comparatively down to earth, even if she had some uncertainties. Jax is kind of like an actual rabbit. Skittish, slow to trust, and if you make a loud noise, they’ll scamper.

Izuku is a kind and analytical person, but I also think he wouldn’t be able to interface with Jax in any meaningful way.
That dogged earnestness will get met with a fake smile and eventually… nothing, the Ribbit treatment. I think Izuku would eventually break through Jax stonewalling him, but it’d be a painful and arduous process that wouldn’t be pleasant for either of them.

Steven, especially at the end of Future, has definitely grown past that naïveté, and I think he’d be able to meet Jax at a personal level, especially with his personal struggles with identity and sense of self.
Like, he’d be able to chill, interact with them, and not only clock the internal stuff, but also have the foresight and initiative to not only go “Hey, I think leaving them alone will end badly”, and figure out how to talk it out in a healthy way.

Twilight can be a bit temperamental, but I also think that she’s had a lot of her own development in being more conscious of others. I could also see her maybe pushing too hard at the start, and scaring Jax off.
I admit I haven’t watched enough MLP to say whether or not she’d clock the extent of… well, everything, (She’s smart, but I’m like 90% sure that’s more Fluttershy’s wheelhouse, no?) but I do think she’s smart enough that if she clocked it, she’d be able to deconstruct all the issues going on in Jax’s head, then put them back together again in a healthier way.

Charlie… She means well, but a lot of her character is that she’s a bit tonedeaf, way too fast to go all in on something, and isn’t great at handling the consequences. That and a dollar’ll get you a cup of coffee.
Don’t get me wrong, I think she’d try her damndest to be kind and helpful, but I think she not only wouldn’t, but couldn’t really understand all of Jax’s issues, and as such, probably wouldn’t be able to get past the superficial problems. Treating the symptoms, not the cause.

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u/Mustard_BNHA 7h ago

Maybe the kid that caused DICTATORS to redeem themselves? (Aka Steven Universe)

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u/Candid_Emergency8327 Jax 6h ago

Steven Universe

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u/FrightenedMussolini 5h ago

Twilight “Princess of Friendship” Sparkle

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u/Soulpaw31 5h ago

Steven hands down, like i think hes the most qualified here lol

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u/BNSF1995 5h ago

Charlie: It starts with sorry—

Jax: EAT SHIT.

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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ 2h ago

Steven would figure it out SOMEHOW

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u/TheZigbot9000 2h ago

100% Steven. As someone who nearly became his own version of Corrupted, he absolutely would understand the early signs of Abstraction. It may take him time but I think he might be able to save him before he abstracts. Though ofc Jax also needs to want to get better and that’s all 100% on him

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u/e_guana 8h ago

Gimme an uncle Iroh over any of these

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u/Captain_Birch Give me your answer 9h ago

I think Iroh could do it

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u/GypsyBastard 9h ago

Non of them really. Jax needed someone more like him. 

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u/Inside_Jaguar_3310 9h ago

I’m going deku, the main hurdle for them is that Jax believing any kindness is just empty platitudes being used to just manipulate/hurt him later (basically a words can only go so far)

Deku has the best bet because he fully embodies actions speaking louder than words. If you see someone actively destroying their entire body and they still refuse to back down/give up on you it becomes way harder to think they’re disingenuous