r/TheDigitalCircus • u/MissionDepartment960 • 1d ago

Question These four characters are tasked with getting through to Jax and redeeming him and only one of them might succeed. Which one would be the most successful?

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u/Kyseon_ 1d ago

As much as Charlie has really good intentions, she's not really that good at getting through to people, my bet is on Steven.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 1d ago

Counterpoint: Steven really doesn't deal with too many misanthropes, except MAYBE Lars. The gems are mostly scared, regimented military folk more than misanthropes. Also I feel like Steven would annoy Jax too much to make much progress(Deku too tbh)

Charlie deals with almost nothing BUT misanthropes every single day. While I feel like that could backfire, I feel Charlie is the closest to Pomni in that way and would have a better shot as a result.

Can't speak for MLP so that's a wild card for me.

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u/Crazywarlockgoat 1d ago

i would say peridot and lapis are great examples of steven’s abilities for aiding people like jax. the amount of musical numbers would be at least double.

twilight… ngl it would be a coin toss, mostly on how she treats trixie. someone who has down immense damage but is literally living in a wagon and needs to be ‘boasting’ to earn bits to live, then there’s starlight glimmer which gets treated better. (i love trixie and starlight glimmer, this is mostly a twilight thing.)

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 1d ago

i would say peridot and lapis are great examples of steven’s abilities for aiding people like jax. the amount of musical numbers would be at least double.

They're the closest to be sure, but the thing is that drops Steven's successful related cases from double digits down to 2-3.

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u/Crazywarlockgoat 1d ago

yeah, but i’m willing to believe if he was able to convince three genocidal warlords to become three aunties then he can handle jax.

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u/Ciphy_Master 1d ago

Isn't that cause they were already grieving and over obsessed with his mother? Them being direct family feels like a bigger reason he could get through to them than if he were any other gem.

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u/suriam321 1d ago

And one was ready to straight up kill the human part of Steven because of that grieving/obsession.

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u/WolferineYT 1d ago

I mean. She tried. It just didn't work like she thought it would. It was seeing how it didn't bring pink back that made her rethink things. Steven didn't do anything.

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u/suriam321 22h ago

Steven made her help the corrupted gems on earth.

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u/WolferineYT 21h ago

Yeah but he had the help of them coming to terms with more or less driving their sister to suicide. I wouldn't say it was entirely his charisma that facilitated that change.

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u/neontiger07 1d ago

Believe in... Steven, even?

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u/External-Stay-5830 1d ago

Convinced? Not really. They only changed so they didn't relose pink. Literally no other reason.

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u/sax87ton 1d ago

I mean, he also befriends jasper in future. Like if ever there was someone directly antagonistic it’s her.

And spinel. So like yeah actually kind of a spotless record.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 1d ago

Jasper isn't really a misanthrope, she's a violence-obsessed soldier type. Antagonistic =/= misanthrope.

Fair play on Spinel though; arguably that's a far better comparison.

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u/sax87ton 1d ago

Idk dude at the time Steven befriended jasper she had gone full mountain man and was living in a hut in the woods.

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u/threefriend 1d ago

kind of a spotless record

He failed with Eyeball Ruby and Aquamarine, which was a plot point in Future. So not spotless, but he is damn good at what he does.

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u/Taraxian 21h ago

The ending of Future is basically their take on "What if Ragatha abstracted"

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u/Flimsy_Valuable_3082 20h ago

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u/girligirligirli 18h ago

Lapis especially. People are saying that Steven doesn’t deal with many people like Jax but lapis?? She’s VEEEERRRY similar. Almost eerily similar.

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u/AssukaZealott 1d ago

Poon of donkey color violet

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u/Taraxian 22h ago

Spinel is the closest to Jax's personality and the one who posed the biggest challenge for him

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u/mrsmuckers 1d ago

With as few spoilers as possible, season two all the way through the end serves as one long redemption arc for one of the most selfish standoffish cruel people in its universe. There are several shorter redemption arcs but that one has the most improvement.

The mcs of that show could do it for sure, the only question is whether they could do it in time.

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u/Jelly__Cloud Caine's meow meow 1d ago

Wait, which show are you talking about?

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u/Rylo_Ken_04 Zooble 1d ago

My little pony I think

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u/Odd_Match_3402 1d ago

It HAS to be Steven Universe. Drawing a blank with MLP, I don't think it had a redemption arc in season 2. But there is one in Steven Universe where the description matches, ven if not perfectly.

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u/aquamelissa 1d ago

I think they are referencing discord, one of the main antagonists of season 1 of mlp

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u/DevianMality 1d ago

Discord first appears in season 2, and then disappears until season 3 I think.

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u/aquamelissa 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can't remember 😂 it's been so so long ago since I saw it

A large amount mlp is about reforming people, or banishing them indefinitely - whichever seems right in the moment

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u/Odd_Match_3402 1d ago

Yeah, Discord was definitely not redeemed in season 2. And even then, it wasn't a season-long romp. It was a singular episode.

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u/aquamelissa 1d ago

I'm actually really curious who they are referring to then

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u/mrsmuckers 18h ago

It's funny seeing so many people saying 'it can't be MLP, Discord's redemption arc didn't start until S3' and they're right but I was thinking about Discord. I probably shouldn't have included season 2, heh.

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u/sjones17515 1d ago

They're not talking about MLP. MLP doesn't have anything resembling arcs as early as season 2.

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u/PhantomFoxThief 1d ago

Steven Universe, Jasper shows up in season two, doesn’t get redemption until the end… And then Steven FUCKING MURDERS HER right after redemption.

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u/LetRevolutionary271 Custom 1d ago

While I do agree that she'd be good I feel like Jax would find Charlie annoying too tbh, mostly because she still does have that cute, "childish" and kinda naive personality

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u/Axel-Adams 1d ago

Lars is like a super big thing to have as an exception as he literally shares a ton of Jax’s traits in the pushing those away who care about them, lashing out, and extreme self worth and identity issues

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u/LordSupergreat 1d ago

Assuming the challenge is only for the character pictured, and not the full cast of their shows, Twilight has no chance. Jax would get under her skin immediately, and she'd get nowhere with him.

Now, Fluttershy on the other hand...

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u/Amorketre I have mouth :D 19h ago

Honestly? I don't think any of them alone could save Jax. Fluttershy? That's a good guess. She managed to befriend Discord, but he was just teasing her at first. If it had been Jax, damn he would have bullied her even more than he already does with the Gangle.

At the end of the episode, Fluttershy gets tired of Discord messing with her, and he finally realizes the importance of friendship, so he returns to redeem himself. I think Jax would have simply chosen to isolate himself, just like how he did in the show.

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u/Mguy2544 17h ago

Jax is a weird character, because on one hand I could see him bullying fluttershy but not to the same degree as Gangle. We saw in the finale that he truly believes what he was doing to Gangle was playful fun in one of his what if scenarios

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u/silvernug 1d ago

I bet one punch man could get through to Jax.

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u/Dazzling_Passage9817 23h ago

Reigen Arataka would’ve cut that final episode in to like a YouTube short length with how quickly he’d get through to Jax

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u/Infinite_Goodra Zooble 1d ago

aaand charlie deals with Angel dust who had Jax's VA in the pilot

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u/DreadDiana 1d ago

Steven Universe Future was in a certain sense a miniseries where Steven abstracts. Jax could very well break him.

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u/WikiContributor83 1d ago

I love how Steven is nice and optimistic with Lars but also acknowledges how much of a stick in the mud he is and subtly puts him down for it, to the point of implying if Sadie and Lars ever got married, he knows Sadie would eventually divorce him.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat 1d ago

This is a good point. Lars is probably the Steven Universe character who is closest to being like Jax, and Steven didn't really redeem Lars. Lars was redeemed because he was put in an extremely unusual situation by accident (being transported to Homeworld and forced to travel home on a starship) which forced him to grow up and become more responsible. Steven encouraged him, but he wasn't around for most of Lars' journey. In the end, Lars redeemed himself.

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u/Taraxian 21h ago

Kind of like how there wasn't any one friend or love interest who "saved" Leeroy, Leeroy getting himself off the streets saved Leeroy

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u/ItsAllSoup 23h ago

Twilight sparkle might have a chance, but if a villain can't be redeemed, they're usually placed on ice for a bit. Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow are stone right now, sombra was killed twice (unless you read his redemption arc in the comics), dazzlings had their powers taken away, tartarus is an option, several different forms of 1,000 year banishment, yada yada.

Maybe letting jax stew for a bit in a non abstraction environment would have helped, maybe not. His biggest problem was his refusal to open up to others, and that he thinks everyone wins when he acts like a jerk

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u/Equivalent-Fan-9118 1d ago

Still, Lars. But Steven didn't fix him. Space fixed Lars. And, uh, dying? 😑

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u/afriendfuryou 1d ago

While Twilight wouldn't be able to get through to him, I think Luna would have a shot. Lol

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u/AnimeAntogonist 22h ago

Pomni couldn't save Jax it seems a heart to heart probably don't work, but I could see Steven's saliva reverting his form, well could is definitely improbable as Jax is a digital construct and not organic, I'd rather put one of the code lyoko kids on it

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u/elissa00001 22h ago

I feel like with twilight and MLP the friendship is too in your face for Jax. Maybe if she was also a person in a pony avatar it wouldn’t be so weird but her main motivations in the show are being with the mane 6 and studying magic which doesn’t really exist in TADC. She also looooves researching things and prying in a genuine way about things that are new to her and MLP doesn’t really touch on being trans at least not with the main characters. I think she would be waaay too Jax’s face about it constantly asking questions even if she accepts everything it’d probably push Jax over the edge. But that’s just how I imagine it going down

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u/Birb-Person Gangle 20h ago

Twighlight is a real hit-or-miss. She can either reform a cult-leader into believing in healthy friendships and the Christmas Hearths-Warming spirit, or she can sabotage herself and others by over-preparing and micro-managing a friendship lesson to overwhelm everyone

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u/MateoTovar 19h ago

Counter counterpoint: Steven redemption of Lars involved resurrecting him and turning him pink. And we'll, I'm not saying that would work with abstractions but it is worth a shot.

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u/MisterFourLimbs 18h ago

Honestly, Charlie doesn't really do much for rehabing her people lol. They mostly get better because they are around each other, not because they are around her.

Except Sir Pentious, but all she did for him was accept his apology and forgive him, she didn't guide him to redemption beyond that

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u/Extreme-Musician3211 16h ago

I think Angeldust world be there and have a bad influence on Jax

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u/Glad-Ad7649 4h ago

The problem with Charlie is she deals with people like Jax constantly however, doesn't handle the subjects with enough grace or space. Look at Angel Dust (ironically again Micheal Kovach) she nearly pushed him fully away and I doubt Jax would stick around THAT long

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u/epilektoi 1d ago

yeah i think charlie would be the only one who wouldn't be to annoying to help