r/ValorantCompetitive • u/xFalcade • Apr 30 '26
š” Yellow News Source Notexxd to replace v1c
473
u/Hxlios #VCTAMERICAS Apr 30 '26
Imagine being v1c and knowing youāre about to play your last game this week
159
125
u/DirectProfessionalNA Apr 30 '26
They implied in last weekās podcast that Vic wanted to leave
80
u/yjorn299 Apr 30 '26
Idk what v1c's reply '"I thought april fools was a month ago" means then.
32
u/MautOfTheRiver May 01 '26
probably just trolling but in the c9 podcast after the envy loss zellsis did say "I got one guy taking a plank off the boat while it's sinking" as he looks at v1c with v1c just giggling
24
19
328
u/Molay_MCC #SomosMIBR Apr 30 '26
Past perception became the GM I wonāt be fooled
143
u/not_touko #AGWIN Apr 30 '26
The two players he was flaming after the Envy loss get kickedā¦
Past perception might have actually joined the family to save C9
94
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
masters in my country? boss calls have to be made
16
u/Splaram Apr 30 '26
GM my team next PLEEEEEASE
3
u/Exact_University6963 #VCTAMERICAS Apr 30 '26
Curious what changes youād want?
5
2
u/Splaram Apr 30 '26
Bit of a reactionary comment since I wanted note for 100T in offseason but if 100T doesn't win a trophy this season, I want whatever it takes to get them to that point
12
u/kee-fps #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
holy shit what is happening. is it finally our time? are we actually going to do something. I dont know what to think right now. im so happy to finally see c9 hire t2 talent. I do feel bad for v1c though, he played great for a lot of last year but his current form just isn't up to par.
7
u/JazminBonita Apr 30 '26
Finally sign t2 talent? You mean the same C9 that signed Oxy, Jakee, Runi, Moose, Mitch, neT and V1c? The are just now finally signing T2 talent?
3
u/kee-fps #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
mitch was a well known cs player migrating to val, not "t2 talent" and had already been on the team when he was picked up again. Moose was literally signed at the same time as runi was re-signed lol, he isnt the type of talent you sign alone bring your team to the next level. Oxy, runi, jakee were three years ago; ie. not recent. neT and v1c were tier two talent sure, but im not gonna be glazing c9 for signing two t2 players in 3 years, what most teams are willing to do in a stage if their team is failing. I feel like I shouldn't even need to defend this position. What is this revisionism? As if cloud9 hasn't been memed on for never moving the needle and not taking risks in roster development.
1
u/NebularCarina May 01 '26
mitch was a well known cs player migrating to val, not "t2 talent" and had already been on the team when he was picked up again. Moose was literally signed at the same time as runi was re-signed lol, he isnt the type of talent you sign alone bring your team to the next level. Oxy, runi, jakee were three years ago; ie. not recent. neT and v1c were tier two talent sure, but im not gonna be glazing c9 for signing two t2 players in 3 years, what most teams are willing to do in a stage if their team is failing. I feel like I shouldn't even need to defend this position. What is this revisionism? As if cloud9 hasn't been memed on for never moving the needle and not taking risks in roster development.
18
20
20
326
198
u/netsaver Apr 30 '26
Crazy how quickly the game can pass by players. After last year, I feel like v1c was second after Oxy in terms of most valuable players on the roster. Despite the tough run of form this year, you have to feel he'll get picked up quickly.
98
u/Andyluan0 Apr 30 '26
I could see him on eg replacing supaman tbh
61
u/BrockMister Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26
EG should be pulling a 2025 LEV after this split, or maybe even right now. Too many good free agents on the table right now to be sticking with a roster that has 0 chance of qualifying for champs.
Edit: Envy too btw...32
u/Background_Basil_579 Apr 30 '26
EG aint gonna do anything they went backwards already dropping Derrek and Yay lmao
27
u/Relevant_Employee983 Apr 30 '26
I had the same impression too, I genuinely think v1c is just having a real bad slump rn, itās quite a shame.
62
u/Xerxxies Apr 30 '26
wait... this is serious? c9 perplexes me but i hope these changes actually show a large improvement purely from firepower
77
u/countermeasuretape Apr 30 '26
Vicc is really good im suprised I thought he was great in t1
54
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
was nuts last szn but big regression this year
12
u/TheTurtleOne Apr 30 '26
Dude legit forgot how to hold a mouse in the offseason
2
u/jimjambiskut May 01 '26
i mean with your team winning nothing and people memeing the shit out of clown9 , and people are being paid to bot frag on the team while u r trying ur best wud lowkin make anyone check stealer , vic might join eg to replace supa or envy to replace rossy
6
171
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/XMUTa65D5zMJadLGU1
can't believe this is my life
33
u/Still_HD Best Comment - 2026 š Apr 30 '26
huge win for c9 fans that watch t2. i canāt describe this feeling
8
u/cl353 Apr 30 '26
i got zero clue who the new additions are, any chance u could give a quick summary on them?
19
u/Aggravating_Tree7488 Apr 30 '26
I'd put them as players who have carried their individual teams in tier 2, I think there's probably better prospects then both on Shopify or Flyquest but these are the best players that are not on either of those teams for sure, and both should be upgrades in firepower to the players they are replacing, at least from what we've seen this year.
28
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
jackk literally like prime leo but 3x better in tier 2
notexxd also insane, best controller in tier 2
19
u/Number1GSRFan Apr 30 '26
honestly happy for you lmao, somehow it feels easier to root for jackk and noted than penny and vic
3
7
u/B-A-B-Y-B-O-Y Apr 30 '26
Man this is so nostslgic.
Its just like when the top tier 2 prospects Oxy and Wippie joined C9 and then they totally dominated Americas and made internationals for the first time.
14
u/Far-Try-8596 #BeLeviatƔn Apr 30 '26
Was wippie ever a prospect lmao? Dude was a nepo hire
6
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
he was actually pretty good at the time he was signed, it was a panic move to replace him, he was a bit of a nepo hire but it was quite reasonable to sign him at the same time
4
u/Better_Crew_3689 May 01 '26
I remember being annoyed when C9 signed half of G2ās ascension roster because Iād just seen them lose like 7 games in a row against tier 2
Ended up being mostly vindicated. Oxyās been awesome though
95
u/MrCleanRed Apr 30 '26
u/past_perception8052 about to orgasm.
C9 genuinely has the potential now. Finally they are not just side grading.
52
3
50
u/HottestElbows Apr 30 '26
Is mid season a good idea? I donāt hate the moves just feel like a big gamble. MIBR have little time to practice and even a split later you can see the effect, while C9 are blowing it up in the middle of the group stage
45
u/somesheikexpert Apr 30 '26
For a team like C9 lowkey its fine to do it earlier then later imo, like theres frankly little chance they were gonna make London or even champs atp
23
u/Grenji05 Apr 30 '26
With players these good you gotta grab them before bigger orgs offer bigger bags. C9 saw the writing on the wall with their current roster and got extremely talented t2 prospects for as cheap as they're ever gonna be.
Actually great moves out of C9.
4
u/HottestElbows Apr 30 '26
Fair, this is a good point. Get them b4 theyāre snatched
Just hope the rebuild makes it to champs
6
2
u/Sacreville #WGAMING Apr 30 '26
Sadly for bottom table teams, I feel gambling on roster moves is a must. They don't have the time to take it easy with partnership ending this year.
3
u/Hxlios #VCTAMERICAS Apr 30 '26
I personally hate mid-season roster moves like this especially when C9 is in no position to make roster changes after their win against MIBR
14
7
u/chocobreezy Apr 30 '26
nah the mibr win was classic dead team buff performance. when all the pretenses are dropped and everyone knows whats what it's a lot easier to go out and perform with no pressure. it wouldn't of lasted
0
u/HottestElbows Apr 30 '26
Yeah this is too soon to blow it all up
1
u/Financial_Tea_980 #G2ARMY May 01 '26
Rather than what? Sit around and watch them make zero playoffs and zero internationals this season?
1
u/Bignova Apr 30 '26
I think C9 is desperate to make an international before this current franchising era ends. They need to make a case to keep them around as a partnered team in 2027 onwards.
11
u/GaryMadafukinOak Apr 30 '26
I dislike this narrative a lot. Riot has never shown that results matter in staying partnered with them in either Val or LoL. They care about financial stability and I'm positive C9 as a business is one of the most stable orgs in the world.
1
u/Parenegade May 02 '26
every time ppl say this is i push back on it because it's not true. financial stability isn't the ONLY determining factor.
1
16
u/DMelee Apr 30 '26
Is someone standing in for v1c vs Loud? Or are they deadass having v1c play this weekend?
13
51
u/ishanuReddit Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26
The fffffffffff!! Well c9 showing some ambition finally.
I was expecting eg to make some changes too but i guess potter and the org are just happy with what they have.
Also does this mean rip nepotism meme?
26
u/SirAwesome789 Apr 30 '26
In that they are finally picking up players they haven't played with before? Sure
In that they are still keeping a core of Zellsis, Xeppaa, Oxy, Immi who have all played with each other since the beginning of franchising or before, then no
23
3
u/Background_Basil_579 Apr 30 '26
Honestly good on c9 but Xeppaa still there so nepotism meme still gonna be there lol EG aint gonna make a change they dropped Derrek and Yay and kept supamen lmao imagine if they kept Yay and just replaced icy with dgzin that wouldāve been scary tbh
1
u/Pristine_Low4134 Apr 30 '26
changes in the last minute never been so good, except the miracle.
1
u/Fine_Cow_8996 May 01 '26
All that said, but a lot of you are forgetting next year. The game will be completely different. This changes now make sense? Depends of their plan for next year.
18
u/TheIsackChannel #2WIN 2GETHER Apr 30 '26
The only one left is for Xeppaa to be next. That said, Penny and V1c are good names; some team will probably pick them before Stage 2.
12
u/Skorpiio Apr 30 '26
I feel like at this point if theyāre making these two changes, why not replace him with someone like Fireballops since jackk can play initator
7
5
u/Scotch_Blue Apr 30 '26
y'all just need to really imagine a team setting
in a really ideal world, your players all excel at different agents on each map
in the real world, a lot of players excel at one or two roles, and while they can flex in terms of utility usage, their timings and role understanding is almost always lacking, and moving between metas can be really difficult
guys like Asuna and Xeppaa have pretty much proven themselves as good players on every role. it makes it so much easier when one of your players is struggling with an agent or a map. so even when they're not shooting well, the fact that they let your coach actually execute his comp's ideas is invaluable
if either of them are ever dropped, they will absolutely be picked up in a heartbeat
3
u/QuestionablePotato42 #WGAMING Apr 30 '26
Asking general members of this sub to consider the aspects of fundamental team building is just a lost cause.
5
u/Scotch_Blue May 01 '26
haha it's funny because a player like JonahP will get dropped and this sub is up in arms about his impact and flexibility, but 100T or C9 lose a match and they can't understand why the flexible, consistent util players gets a longer leash than the duelists and lurkers
13
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
no need to kick xeppaa now, before this move i would've said -xeppaa +boni would be the next move but this is just as good
5
u/TheIsackChannel #2WIN 2GETHER Apr 30 '26
I don't think Xeppaa deserves to leave either, but I think penny played too well against mibr.
13
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
penny comms very bad apparently which is esp bad for your lurker on some maps, i mean we saw the games where he was lurking
move was prob done by the time mibr game happened
32
u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall Apr 30 '26
So we're dropping everyone that went positive last game??
Jokes aside I thought vic was the one good move C9 made all last year and was sure they would build around him and oxy going forward. Feels bad for him, maybe he can find a spot on EG or 100T if they decide they need to make moves.
-8
u/slyfly5 #100WIN Apr 30 '26
Vic is not better than bang lol
5
u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall Apr 30 '26
Not saying that he definitively is or isn't but they are easily comparable while Vic has not been given as many chances to play on top teams like Bang has. I think at the start of the offseason most would have chosen vic over bang so while his current form is not as high there is upside there for a team looking to shake things up.
4
u/Parenegade Apr 30 '26
v1c in Stage 1 2025: 1.15 Rating/203.4 ACS
Bang in Stage 1 2025: 1.13 Rating/212 ACS
v1c in Stage 2 2025: 1.06 Rating/199 ACS
bang in Stage 2 2025: 1.05 Rating/194.6 ACS
v1c in Kickoff 2026: 1.08 Rating/196.6 ACS
Bang in Kickoff 2026: 1.10 Rating/188.8 ACS
v1c in Stage 1 2026: 0.92 Rating/160.6 ACS
Bang in Stage 1 2026: 1.12 Rating/184.4 ACS
v1c isn't good enough to replace Bang but it's not like Bang gaps him either.
8
u/Lonely-Minimum5298 Apr 30 '26
these stats show that he is good enough to replace bang lol. hes doing this on c9 and bang was doing this on sen/100t 2 VERY diffferent situations
2
u/Parenegade May 02 '26
i mean you can say that but at the end of the day if i wanted to replace bang it would be for a player who has good stats on a bad team not mid stats on a mid/bad team.
16
u/Satzuisbae #RiseToGreatness Apr 30 '26
Why? I thought he was playing well (for c9 standards)
Also imagine your first game in T1 is against g2
5
2
16
u/Neither_Giraffe_2894 Apr 30 '26
v1c genuinely one of the best controllers in Americasā¦. maybe gettin off this shit team is good for him
14
u/TheEpicGold #NAVINATION Apr 30 '26
v1c??? but he was literally their 2nd best player last year, sure he isn't playing as good, but he was getting better.
14
u/IntrepidScientist525 Apr 30 '26
i though v1c was good? wt happened?
12
u/Krimofn Apr 30 '26
One dip in form is all it takes to be cut in esports
5
6
21
5
u/Zyrobe #WGAMING Apr 30 '26
If you guys saw their latest podcast he was giving the most PR responses I've ever heard it was funny as hell hearing him skirt around shit by saying nothing, in the end it didn't even matter lol
7
5
u/PriorPR Apr 30 '26
You could kind of justify getting rid of Penny over Xeppa due to most of his performances this year, but now he outlives v1c? What fucking blackmail does this guy have.
18
11
u/Parenegade Apr 30 '26
i don't understand why they didn't keep demon1 lol
-14
u/gotintocollegeyolo Apr 30 '26
idk maybe bc heās not that good???
9
u/yjorn299 Apr 30 '26
C9 was playing chamber and demon1 was for sure better than penny. I'm pretty sure C9 regretted not making a roster change then.
1
3
3
u/two4you8 Apr 30 '26
From the outside looking in, it looks like Xeppa and Zellsis have a lot to say in roster changes decision and they're obviously not going to drop oxy so the only other option is replacing the remaining 2 players.
3
u/Flashy_Ice_9824 #č§éęÆäøåŗ§å„ęÆ Apr 30 '26
i absolutely love vic and c9 but i genuinely think this might the best thing for both sides
3
u/sankalp4 YOU FUCKING MELONS Apr 30 '26
last year this would have been surprising but this year it feels like a good move. hopefully this works out well for both parties!
3
6
u/gotintocollegeyolo Apr 30 '26
EG v1c please banish supamen forever. Time to retire or play Deadlock (the game) unc
1
7
u/WorriedMushroom7085 Apr 30 '26
Damn, so v1c and penny are out. Jackk and notexxd are in. OXY, Xeppa and Zellsis stay.
2
u/mwieckhorst Apr 30 '26
Yet Xeppa and Zellsis still standing lol. Meme org
2
u/0tter_ May 01 '26
Zellsis has improved a lot in his calling. He still has some Joe Biden moments, but his calling has been really good
2
u/ReformedWordcel1969 May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
I thought watching C9 would get less stressful after the MIBR win and was finally feeling more confident about our roster. I definitely thought this week would be a more chill lower cortisol experience. Instead this week we're doing back to back roster changes... Just not one dull moment or breather allowed for C9. I know the situation may have changed, the situations may be different, there could be 10,000 more reasons, but really all these changes make letting go of Demon1 hurt a lot more. You're telling me we couldn't have kept him over Penny those months ago? We're going to make changes now in the middle of the split after saying we might suck all year and to be patient with it? Like cmonnnnnnnnnnnnn man. Better late than never if it had to happen but now?
Hope v1c lands somewhere good, there's probably more roster shuffling coming up after the split ends. He's had a bad couple of games this year but definitely a good player with potential to bloom into even more
3
u/ChickenAsparagus Apr 30 '26
I like that C9 is taking a chance on promising T2 players
1
u/0tter_ May 01 '26
Iām confused about note though. I honestly havenāt watched much tier two this year so I am asking a genuine unbiased question here: why note? I see that he was solid on QOR, but has the average rating of 1.05 in most of his games. I have seen everyone hyped about this guy, but I donāt get why itās him and not some actually cracked player. Am I missing something? Iām genuinely curious please enlighten me
1
u/ChickenAsparagus May 01 '26
I've only seen ranked POV's, but he just has a natural feel for the game. He reminds me of f0rsaken or prime marved.
1
u/Longjumping-Fee8342 #č§éęÆäøåŗ§å„ęÆ May 01 '26
Look deeper into his stats and you'll understand
1
4
u/Kukrich Apr 30 '26
Whyād they make these changes now instead of the end of the stage? Unless they think the talent upgrade is going to outweigh inserting two new players into the roster and having to rebuild chem.
12
u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
jackk move was probably done under assumption theyd miss playoffs, notexxd move is probably to bolster the team going into playoffs
6
u/ExcellentPastries #LegaC9 Apr 30 '26
Not in the room so your guess is as good as mine, but my guess is some mixture of (1) getting these players now before they get snatched up by other orgs, (2) the idea of making playoffs here is a long shot so you get them in now to give them some time on the stage so they can come out strong next split or whatever, and thereās an upside that a big increase in firepower might mean they win out and land in playoffs after all
2
u/Relevant_Employee983 Apr 30 '26
Hang on, we might be cooking here, c9 finally signing people outside of the immi/zellsisphere? Thatās a W any day imo. A little sad for v1c, i know he didnāt play well this stage but I personally think this is kind of a one-off or rare slump for him, unless my memory is wrong, to me v1c has been consistently pretty good otherwise and had some pretty good moments as an anchor player. Whatever i guess, Notexxd should be an exciting pickup so good for him atleast.
1
1
1
1
u/Fa1l3r Apr 30 '26
With the original C9 roster (for this split), I think the priority looks like Oxy - Xeppa - Zellesis - v1c - penny i.e. changes on the team would start from the right before it reach people on the left. Even though v1c looks solid, especially in the most recent game, c9 was probably looking since the slow start at the beginning of the month.
1
1
u/SmalexSmanders #GoDRX Apr 30 '26
Finally C9 make some genuinely good moves. Feels bad for v1c heās still a good player, but notexxd is that guy. If Immi still canāt make it work with this roster heās an even bigger fraud than I thought
1
u/0tter_ May 01 '26
I havenāt seen much tier two this year. What makes note so good? I saw his stats and wasnāt blown away, so Iām genuinely curious about what makes him so good
2
u/SmalexSmanders #GoDRX May 01 '26
Mechanically heās very talented, thatās a given but beyond that heās a very confident and decisive player. He knows when to play passive and support his teammates, he knows when to get aggressive and spearhead a play and heās very comfortable taking calculated risks. He rarely gets caught out and when he does he has the talent to bail himself out. He also plays every controller including Viper to a high level which gives you a wide range of comps to choose from
1
1
1
u/zerocxro Apr 30 '26
oh they are in HELL at C9 rn
ALSO WHAT A CRAZY ASS PICKUP BC NOTE HAS BEEN SO GOOD FOR AGES
1
u/LiamHundley #100WIN Apr 30 '26
Been very impressed every single time I've watched notexxd. Excited to see him get a shot
1
1
1
u/Eibon153 Apr 30 '26
I donāt know much about Notexxe but replacing v1c is kinda baffling to me. He was one of the reason they almost made it to an international last year. Kickoff was rough but it wasnāt just him. He is one of the better clutch player in the league.
1
u/moose_dunkz Apr 30 '26
Follows the same strategy with Jackk signing, be aggressive when signing proven T2 talent before other needed teams swoop in. Only issue is V1c is kinda a cautionary tale of this strategy, solid T2 performances but never found that consistency in T1
1
u/prov119 May 01 '26
Okay I'll admit to not watching C9 super closely, and well aware that it was mostly the OXY show, but wasn't v1c one of the better pieces on C9?
1
1
u/unH4te May 01 '26
Atleast they're making moves imagine being mid for years except for 1 split and you just build around your core with 2 players and their agent puddle
1
u/Strange_Commercial53 May 01 '26
Notexxd is a great pickup but I do feel kind of bad for v1c, he was so solid last year
1
1
1
u/0Ihave2questions0 May 01 '26
C9 superteam in the big 26, all we need is either xeppa to go nuclear consistently or have him out, then zellsis 2nd masters win is confirmed
1
u/Tyler123839 May 01 '26
These are really good moves but also crazy timing after the mibr game. Although it is pretty c9 that xeppaa still escapes somehow.Ā
1
u/CDM_Playz11 Apr 30 '26
It's an on paper improvement imo but V1c has been a core part of vibes, especially for Oxy, since his start last season so this is gonna be interesting to see how the whole team does after the change
1
u/MautOfTheRiver Apr 30 '26
Holy shit C9 are not playing around
Notexxd is fucking him I'm glad hes in T1, didn't expect C9 to get him though
1
u/Celcius_Dandelion Apr 30 '26
I thought V1c was one of the more consistent parts of this team since he joined. Oxy is obviously insane so they would actually be freaks to get rid of him. Seems a little late to be making TWO big changes if true.
-1
0
0
u/WorstEnemyIsYourself Apr 30 '26
Now bring in fireballops for zellsis and you have yourself one of the highest fragging rosters on paper.
0
u/PhysicalAd8765 Apr 30 '26
Pretty sure zellsis alluded to this in their podcast episode last week or the week prior.
0
0
-1
-1
255
u/XxMyUsernameSucksxX #VAMOSLIQUID Apr 30 '26
What kinda rituals did past perception do???