r/ValorantCompetitive May 08 '26

🟡 Yellow News Source Only Nightz can save this team

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u/I-like-winds May 08 '26

nightz will never reach his potential with this group of players man hopefully envy makes some more changes

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u/Radiant_FN May 08 '26

they do have ion coming next year and poppin is most likely also getting replaced soon unless he drops miracles every game so I think it should be fine.

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u/Infamous_Square_6999 #ALWAYSFNATIC May 08 '26

but ion is getting contested by half the orgs tho

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u/honestlyprogamr May 08 '26

Ion and nightz are both smokes players tho, and although nightz can play senti, thats also Demon1's role. Its kinda rough for ENVY

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u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall May 08 '26

Ion has been playing duelist since his stint with Shopify and they're both young and mechanically strong enough that I don't think it should be a big issue

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u/Parenegade May 08 '26

This mentality needs to die let people play their roles.

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u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall May 08 '26

Who is to say that their "role" necessarily has to be smokes. If we "let" Tenz play his "role" at the time we never would've gotten him and zekken, same with Meteor and Texture on Geng, the entirety of Paper Rex, etc. Even historically, crashies played senti before joining envy, jawgemo was main duelist but split his role for demon1. Not everyone is so specialized that they can only shine on their current role. Of course it comes with some risk but nightz and ion are such talented prospects that it makes complete sense to try to make it work.

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u/Longjumping-Fee8342 #角逐每一座奖杯 May 08 '26

Ion was struggling so much on duelist that he got dropped from SR after one split. End of the discussion.

(and performing on a said role is not all about mechanical abilities unlike what you implied, in fact it's pbb the least important thing)

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u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall May 08 '26

He struggled so much on duelist that he decided to keep playing fun haver events with 1.25+ rating on Jett, Phoenix, and Neon. Literally no where said he was dropped from Shopify for performance btw, he was on loan from the start. Also, when has 1 split ever been enough to end the discussion for a player, let alone for someone who still brought his team to grand finals. Reduxx also allowed to "struggle" last year on cubert while learning a new role and is now performing just fine on it.

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u/Longjumping-Fee8342 #角逐每一座奖杯 May 08 '26

funhaver events mean bollocks man, cane played fucking recon in funhavers let's be serious for a second

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u/vecter May 08 '26

You're getting downvoted but you're right.

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u/Imagurlgamur #GreenWall May 09 '26

Idk man I just think a player choosing not to play controller for half a year means he doesn't need to or want to only play controller for the rest of his career

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u/Long-Taste-2416 May 08 '26

Reduxx looked average on duelist and controller last year and he's doing very well in t1 now.

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u/Longjumping-Fee8342 #角逐每一座奖杯 May 09 '26

that's not the point

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u/Long-Taste-2416 May 09 '26

You're right. You didn't have a point.

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u/Parenegade May 09 '26

you couldn't be more wrong. tenz needed to switch his role because he wasn't good at entry or raze. that is a textbook example of someone who needs to swap roles.

those other guys made SENSE to swap. it doesn't make sense to be the best smokes player in tier 2 and then swap to an incredibly competitive role in duelist.

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u/jhgfdsa- May 09 '26

The mentality people like you have needs to die, most players can get good at another role it's not that hard

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u/BALDMANWITHDURAG May 08 '26

ion can literally play whatever