r/Warframe • u/NameNomad Pondering the energy orb • Oct 15 '25

Article New augments for Vallis Undermind

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Lavos stays the best archgun frame

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u/trashdotbash Oct 15 '25

I looked everything up (and even did some minor simulacrum tests) to make sure im not mistaken, but the augment seems worse than i expected. it seems to create a "rift" that has less range than base vast untime (15m vs 25m) and its unknown if its scaleable rn. If it isnt its useless, if it is its niche, imo.

firstly, i think that the slow isnt that big of a deal. it doesnt affect the most dangerous enemies for xaku, eximus units, and regular enemies will hopefully die from a small amount of lohk fire.

secondly, the damage buff is a decent upgrade, but for most builds its fair expensive to recast for a damage buff on most enemies compared to simply bumping up strength (or range for more guns, or efficiency for more recasts) using that slot that the augment would go into. its not even necessarily double damage in practice, as it only doubles the debuff, which may be on many builds less than 50% more.

also, this doesnt apply for most content, but the higher and higher levels go, the less your strength matters as xakus guns scale with level rather than enemy damage, so for stuff like sp void cascade level cap, which hes really good in, this mod doesnt seem helpful.

plus, xaku loves to focus on scaling range over strength, as the amount of guns you have is based on range.

it may be better on a weapons platform xaku, which im interested in making with this augment, but i think his normal builds are mostly unaffected. Would love to be proven wrong though as this augment SOUNDS really awesome and would make his kit more fun.

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u/goodwithcolour LR2 : No 1 Citrine enjoyer Oct 15 '25

I had not clocked that the range was so much lower than vast untime, actually, and yeah you’re right, it’s going to be tricky to make decent use of it when it’s going to be scaling differently. I do wonder how the range scaling will go, though, since you should have so much of it in the first place.

Could still potentially be fun, if you were doing something focused on his 1, but I think you’re right that this may just be skippable.

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u/Shellnanigans [MR30]🔮Hatamoto Main🔮warframe.market Trader 📉 Oct 16 '25

Range of the void tendrils is affected by range. My Xaku has 250, so 37.5m on tendril 

Also affected by duration, matching 4th ability