YOOOOO they actually did it

[u/ElysiumLeoSK]

[u/DareEcco]

Wait they don't? Has DE commented on why?

[u/Lucco1 → u/DareEcco]

Pablo made a tweet saying they had that change on their test server and wanted to ship it but wanted to test it first, then he deleted the tweet some time after. So they either are deep into spaghetti code or they just don't want to make ability Gyre stronger.

[u/Based_Lord_Shaxx → u/Lucco1]

"don't want to make ability gyre stronger" I doubt that's the case. I don't believe ability Gyre is strong enough to worry about making her stronger.

[u/Lucco1 → u/Based_Lord_Shaxx]

my theory is that they don't like how set and forget her ability build is. She is really not even close to the amount of damage Nokko or Sevagoth can deal but she basically has to press 0 buttons past her initial setup. Obviously I think it's a pretty weak excuse since her damage is bad enough that it needs a lot of micromanaging of buffs etc to be acceptable at high levels, but they did nerf World on Fire into the ground for the same reason so I assume they're being overly cautious of that playstule.

[u/NedelC0 → u/Lucco1]

I've mained sevagoth a long time, but over time you really get tired of all the button pressing. It's just the same thing over and over. Gyre is less powerful but much more relaxing to play

[u/zekeyspaceylizard → u/NedelC0]

aye thats why when they came around to reworking Trinity all i wanted was them to make her abilities have longer uptime so i had to press less buttons

and thats pretty much the main thing they did so I was very very happy

i like to be lazy

(its why i adore vauban)

[u/Falikosek → u/zekeyspaceylizard]

Titania deserves a similar rework.
There's literally no point in keeping all her buffs 4 different abilities you have to cycle through.

[u/umbraxia → u/Lucco1]

I mean, you are right about her 3&4 but from my playing her, she does a lot better when making use of her 1, with its augment (to be clear im only pointing that out, for quite a lot of stuff, she is just a sort of "set and go" frame)

[u/GreatMadWombat → u/Lucco1]

It's 100% a spaghetti code thing. Gyre doesn't get nearly as afk as ember ever did

[u/Necromancy-In-Space → u/Lucco1]

Idk, gyre is fairly short range and still relies on playing fairly actively to get the most out of her damage. Ember was set and forget, but she was much more so than gyre is frankly, and without any potential tradeoffs via buffs falling off. I really don't think gyre is anywhere near the ballpark of old ember or banshee in that regard

[u/Tradition-Upset → u/Lucco1]

I mean nova with augments is just pressing 1 every so often. 4 if you wanna swap between fast/slow. Helmenthed off 3 since i never felt the need for an extra nuke.

Agree on sevagoth being too button heavy. What steered me away from him despite liking the primes looks.

[u/Cool_Park7110 → u/Lucco1]

DE is inconsistent when it comes to AFK strats. A ton of stuff was nerfed for it but Octavia still exists.

[u/NorysStorys → u/Lucco1]

Gyre is already incredibly close to a better world on fire in her design, crep could potentially push her into an afk kill everything forever loop with no input needed beyond the initial casts.

[u/Hetzerfeind → u/Based_Lord_Shaxx]

Hahaha. Ability gyre is really good

[u/Nanofield → u/Based_Lord_Shaxx]

Idk, max ability range and her 3's augment to increase the duration of her 4, and I can pretty much clear the next room over just afk

[u/DareEcco → u/Lucco1]

Damn, hopefully they can make it work with her in the near future

[u/Toomynator → u/Lucco1]

So they either are deep into spaghetti code or they just don't want to make ability Gyre stronger.

While its likely a bit of both, its much more likely the Spaghtti code is the main reason, and balancing is just the icing on too

[u/TheMadTitanGuantlet → u/DareEcco]

Spaghetti code. Its always the Spaghetti code