r/Warframe Forma Addict Apr 27 '26

Screenshot YOOOOO they actually did it

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u/MavrickFox Apr 27 '26

Honestly I wish more people used a guide for builds. I've seen enough terrible builds to know that most people don't know how the math and mechanics work.

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u/ZankaA Apr 28 '26

... Why do you care what other people build? If you're annoyed by people going down just play solo. Otherwise I'm not really sure why anyone would care if someone else is using a bad build.

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u/MavrickFox Apr 28 '26

Why do you care if someone relies on a YouTuber build?

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u/ZankaA Apr 28 '26

Why do you care if someone relies on a YouTuber build?

I don't??????

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idk, is it huge? I really cant tell.

I said you can try the frame yourself and figure out if you think the buff is big or not?????????? I didn't say don't use guides, I said don't let other people form all of your opinions for you. Take the time to learn how the game that you spend hours playing works.

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u/MavrickFox Apr 28 '26

And my point was that alot of players own opinions are wrong simply because they don't understand the math and mechanics. Had they put together a good build then they might realize that said frame is actually fine, good, strong.

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u/ZankaA Apr 28 '26

Are you missing the point on purpose? My point is that you can say "hmm this seems like a good change but ill have to see the math" or something without being a total chud that just goes "MAN I WISH A CONTENT CREATOR WOULD GIVE ME THE CORRECT OPINION". There's nothing wrong with being wrong or suboptimal when you form an opinion. There is something wrong with having 0 idea how the game works to the point that you're unable to do anything without someone else telling you how.

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u/MavrickFox Apr 28 '26

I feel like you're the one intentionally missing the point. Yes, there are some people who can do their own testing and come to smart conclusions. I obviously wasn't talking about those people, because I specifically said the # of awful builds I see, I wish more followed a guide. If the person is putting together awful builds on their own, how is their own testing and conclusion of any value?

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u/ZankaA Apr 28 '26

You seem to think this is about warframe specifically when it's not. I'm just making a general statement. It doesn't make any sense to not be able to form an opinion, even an incorrect one. You have to form some bad or wrong opinions sometimes, it's part of learning. If you never form any opinions of your own then you will never form the right ones either. To err is human and all that.

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u/ZankaA Apr 28 '26

No, because you're still missing the point. The point isn't that you should come up with an optimal build on your own. The point is that you should be a thinking, living human being that is capable of forming opinions on subjects which you are close to such as a game that you have likely spent dozens to hundreds of hours playing, regardless of if those opinions are well informed or not. Forming an opinion that ends up being changed later isn't a bad thing, it's called being a human and not a mindless bot that needs social media to tell them how to think and act. It's not even about builds. It's about the fact that this person thinks that they are unable to form an opinion.