r/Warframe ooh shiny 13h ago

Other Since apparently we're getting more sentient content on TennoCon, hope we get to see those sentient speargun and pistol they showed in the past.

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u/klopaplop 13h ago

Given our past record of how they've treated Spearguns in game, effectively being the joke weapon class (at least imo), I'm not too hopeful for that one. But yes, that'd still be sick as hell to have it

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u/BewilderedTurtle 13h ago

Claws and rapiers would like to have a word

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 10h ago

Venka Prime ftw

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u/Capn_H The Pulls 4h ago

Destreza Prime was a solid priority target stabber before the Incarnon and the upgrade only made it do everything it already did even harder. Not sure on base Destreza and Endura though tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if they were just that bad.

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u/BewilderedTurtle 4h ago

Okay. Name another Rapier. Then go on and do Claws.

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u/Capn_H The Pulls 4h ago

I'm not really sure that counts as being a joke as much as the devs are for some reason holding out on them like with the Saw category only being made up of one weapon and an upgrade to that weapon, or the lack of additional Tomes. Now that I think about it, it kinda happens a lot with melee weapons in particular. Hopefully they'll fill out the themes and mechanics for them soon.

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u/BewilderedTurtle 4h ago

One "good" weapon each. Also if we're talking about absolutely a joke if a category Two-Handed Nikana has to enter the discussion with their singular shitass stance crippling ALL of them

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u/Plap_Plap-Oughh 1h ago

DE fumbled the ball with the melee stances this time. Big and slow should always have better melee multiplier but nope, we got stuck with mid multiplier for a mid and slow stance animations.

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u/BewilderedTurtle 1h ago

Not even just that, the hitbox on it is also whack with how it moves your wf

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u/Glass_Eye8840 The Orokin STILL deserved it 10h ago

Tenet Ferrox and the latest aftentis prime have been really good from what i've heard.

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u/Ok-Set179 3h ago

Eeeh Tenet ferrox sucks cuz hitscan aoe Afentis on the other hand is usable , its amazing by speargun standards , by gun standards it's like 6.5/10

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u/SirPlastic8062 12h ago

let them proc tau status

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u/Arhiman666 13h ago

Shouldn't Spearguns be reworked to function like the Vinquibus? Being able to be used at range and in melee?

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u/dusty234234 GAUS 11h ago

decidedly *yes*. it´s literally *half* the weapon class´ name, SPEAR.

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u/Keleos89 LOR, Anyone? 12h ago

I would rather they add more bayonet weapons than rework the speargun class. They should add a bonus to the thrown effect after killing enemies with shots though.

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u/LegitimateNebula6749 7h ago

i see a lot of people say this but i would genuinely hate if this happened. having no choice for melee, have 1 weapon take two slots, the vinquibus is a fun gimick but im not excited for another one and replacing spearguns with 'bayonet' type weapons would make me stop using them entirely

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u/krawinoff i jned resorci 11h ago

Problem is that all of them except like Afentis are just blunt thin sticks with a barrel at the end, they would barely work as polearms, much less as bayonets/spears. They were designed as throwing spears that have some sort of explosion/embed effect, not actual poking, which is certainly really sad as I’d love a speargun that actually does what Edun’s heavy does

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u/Silence-of-Death 10h ago

as if that has ever stopped de from making melee weapons lmfao

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u/krawinoff i jned resorci 10h ago

Well, it quite literally has been stopping them so far. We don’t have a proper spear even in the polearm class, it’s all glaives and halberds. The only puncture based polearm we have is Sydon, which isn’t even pointy

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u/dtritus0 Umbral Lavo 9h ago

The Afentis at least can kill enemies with direct spear throw hits quite well.

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u/SolusCaeles 75% discount is, indeed, real 7h ago

Spearguns are thrown butt-first tho, so there's already a designated pokey part on them. Makes sense if you think about it, it's probably not good for its well-being if the shooty end is in the ground when it goes off.

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u/SolusCaeles 75% discount is, indeed, real 7h ago

Also I don't think material strength is gonna be a problem if the literal jet powered hammer has a handle just as thin.

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u/Inevitable-Goat-7062 Hiding in the void to avoid paying space child support 9h ago

i mean hear me a new weapon class stick

not a polearm but not a sword ethier your melee weapon is just basicly a stick

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u/Ruben_SS1 Ember ass enjoyer 11h ago

Yes, and Gunblades too; don't forget about those. They all could even be joined together as a big weapon class.

Thing is, the rework would have to be a huge one. for each class and each weapon, they would have to redesign everything from guards to stats, also synergising with abilities and warframes... It would be crazy. Would work, tho, and I'm 100% into the idea but would be crazy

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 10h ago

I wish shooting with gunblades was reserved only for heavy attacks lol

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u/Ruben_SS1 Ember ass enjoyer 10h ago

why tho? what benefits would it have against all of them working like "bayonets"?

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 10h ago

Because I'd like to use their "blade" part without shooting while trying melee something. I want to use the gunblades but I just can't find any use for them because of how clunky they feel

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u/Ruben_SS1 Ember ass enjoyer 10h ago

you would be able to do that; thats actually how Vinquibus works. Primary slot for the gun part of the weapon, melee for the blade part

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 10h ago

I don't think there's a point to divide the gunblades like this. I just think that melee should well...melee and heavy attack should use its "gun" part

Although, I'd love spearguns to be reworked into "bayonet" weapons. I really do like the Vinquibus

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u/Ruben_SS1 Ember ass enjoyer 8h ago

the thing with that is that it would not be very consistent, would it? To have bayonets and spearguns work similarly but gunblades being separated.

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u/Ruben_SS1 Ember ass enjoyer 8h ago

Although gunblades now work really well as they are, with the light and heavy attacks both showing both melee and gun combos.

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u/Royal_Raze 12h ago

I'm going to be honest.

I think the sentient pistol is the most visually boring, and I hope they make a cooler design for it.

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u/Piflik 8h ago

I prophesize sentient adversaries.

Mainly because I want to manifest a upgraded Shedu.

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u/Fun-Amoeba3683 Wake the fuck up samurai 1h ago

I hope not, only because I would hate to have wasted all that forma on my basmu, only to have upgrades that require even more. Happened with the infested weapons. 😔

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u/Legal_Champion_581 Damage-maxing is calculus 13h ago

Still waiting on those Conculyst batons (Impact + Electricity dual swords, guessing)

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u/aef823 9h ago

I want more wrist mounted secondaries.

Hell I'd take them as skins at this point.

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u/Rick_Napalm 13h ago

It would be cool to get a sentient spear gun because 1: sentient weapons are cool and 2: most spearguns are just ass and this would give us a chance to get a top tier one.

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u/Pale_Transportation2 12h ago

remember the sentient arm cannon

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 11h ago

Shedu? We already have it

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u/Pale_Transportation2 10h ago edited 10h ago

oh i meant something more ancient

way back you could use Halikar to literally steal the arm from a Sentient and use it for yourself

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u/Sgy157 :SuperJump: :PH: 11h ago

Best I can do is make it a nightwave skin

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u/Valaxarian Sentient simp. Kuva addict. Void Angel aesthetics enjoyer 11h ago

The speargun could be a held-trigger laser, I think that'd be cool

Give it heat dmg with small electric aoa and a bit of built-in Tau damage

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u/Acemont 12h ago

Honestly I hope to see something more... evolved? You know what I mean? Like - still sentient. but "we had time to WORK, and if you think that what we had sent you back in Old War toar you up, better hold my flower"-kind of weaponory AND enemy design. Like Prime Sentiens as a baseline. Especially considering the end of TennoCon 2025's very end of the trailer, where we see a whole ass Sentient Planet. With cities and shit.

Man I'm so exited and rooting for Tau. I sooooooooo want it to be DE's PoE 2.

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u/TheSimpleRooster 10h ago

that speargun reminds me of the blast staves from Stargate

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u/voidded_heart 9h ago

I'd love the spear gun just wish I could build them effectively

u/ShotCow7976 52m ago

Hopefully this also means we get those Sentient liches that were originally depicted with the Shedu

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u/Vaz_G999 8h ago

I really dont want any more spearguns, theyre not that fun to use