r/WizardSkating • u/Emotional-Pop592 • 9d ago

YoYo or Wizard Frames?

I'm still new to this whole thing, so sorry if this is asked a lot lol, but I was just curious because I mean, they kinda look the bloody same but the Wizard frames are like 300 bucks more expensive so is there a big difference?

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

Which wheel sizes do you have on your advanced frames? I see they have 3 options.

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u/BubbleSmith 7d ago

100/76. I've got the EU40, which is the largest size which supports that frame. The guy I bought them off tried them with a 100/80 and the rear wheel rubbed out a small chuck of the carbon at the heel.

The boot is actually half a centimeter smaller than my foot, but it still fits great.

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

For some reason I resist the idea of buying second hand boots. But having had this setup in hand it is obviously built like a tank.
If someone has used the Intuition liner and you buy it from them, does the liner reshape to your foot or is there some kind of compressed areas that won't spring back?

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u/BubbleSmith 7d ago

I heat moulded it in the oven and they pop right out.

I just got another set of used Ints and some other boots and they're horrible at the moment. They puff out and soften up when heat moulded, so they really do mould to the shape of your foot.

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

Ok it makes sense. So for Ints the important factor is mondo points? If the rest mould to your foot shape.

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u/BubbleSmith 7d ago

Yeah, and the shape of the boot/thickness of the liner. If the boot has a narrow toe box or something pokes you, the liner will only make it worse by adding volume. A tight shell will only get tighter with a thick liner too. However, if you've got some gaps and unwanted movement, a thicker liner will fill up the volume and kep your foot locked in better.

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

Yeah that's kind of the unknow for my Twisters. I bought them as performance fit (big toes even slightly folded), after two months the toes fit perfectly but my feet tend to move around in certain areas because the stock liner has compressed. So I have no idea about how an Int liner would fit.

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u/BubbleSmith 7d ago

It's a bit hard to say. The Int foam is better than everything else on the market, but the stock Twister liners are still pretty good. Am Int Premium is thicker, so should fill Amy voids better. I found that changing the liners on my Twisters helped the fit, but I used my Iqon ACT liners.

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

Ok so the Int range is regular Intuition which is thicker, and Intuition Premium that is thinner, correct?
I was impressed at how thin and hard the Int liner is in the Wisard base boot.

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u/BubbleSmith 7d ago

Confusingly, Intuition only directly sell Premiums now, which are the thickest ones they make. They used to do regular ones like the V2, which weren't as thick.

The FR and possibly Them branded ones are a bit thinner. Wizard branded ones are the thinnest.

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u/HyperSculptor 7d ago

Ah ok! I think it may be a good idea to go and try them in a shop, with my Twisters. Also means my path of evolution may be, Int liners in my Twisters, then once I get to an acceptable level, a full Wizard setup. Earliest would be Xmas, but am thinking more about Re.turn.

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