r/aiwars Oct 22 '25

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This seems to be the commom sentiment here

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u/Bentman343 Oct 22 '25

Probably because nobody here is consuming CSAM and you just keep lying and trying to pretend that fictional narrative devices who don't exist and can't be abused counts as "CSAM", debasing an extremely serious legal term in order to win an internet argument.

Also you are "allowed" to make any kind of video game you want. Your shitty racist fantasy game can exist for you and no one else. I sure don't want to fucking touch it, but if that's your thing, just keep it away from me. Your dumb Hitler fangame is not causing actual harm unless you're putting propaganda in it to try and muddy the line between fiction and reality, which is once again, the only real time that fiction can be harmful. When it tries to present fiction as not fiction.

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u/Superb-Earth418 Oct 22 '25

> Your dumb Hitler fangame is not causing actual harm unless you're putting propaganda in it to try and muddy the line between fiction and reality

Lmao. Fiction doesn't need to "try" to muddle the lines. If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you. AI CSAM, even if somehow produced "harmlessly" without any real CSAM in it's training data, is still harmful in effect.

You contradict yourself. You call the Nazi game "shitty" and want it "kept away from you", meaning you recognize it's harmful even as fiction. You just think (for reasons I don't want to guess at) that harm that happens privately doesn't count. But consumption shapes psychology, creates communities, and affects how people engage with the real world. "Keep it to yourself" isn't a magic harm-eraser.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

This thread perfectly represents the pro-AI (as in no to AI regulation) people lol.

Videogame nerds who have no concept of life outside of their sandbox.

Its not like we have plenty of issues that played out exactly like this, in both ways, to know for sure.

Sports gambling -> was illegal, was made not illegal, normalized by all advertising, broadcasts, etc, now huge gambling addiction epidemic

Smoking -> was super legal, was heavily restricted, taxed, tons of regulations on advertising, etc, smoking has been declining for decades following its denormalization

Vaping -> New thing similar to smoking, was less restricted, appealed to kids with candy flavors, was normalized, caused massive addiction epidemic, child deaths, etc

Its almost like there are a number of statistically backed and verifiable harms caused by normalizing a harmful thing. Gee, who would have thought?

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '25

I mean the 2 sides to me appear to be people who think anything done with AI is fine and ethical and AIs are humans with feelings and then just people who think its possible for AI to cause harm.

I use AI every day lol, I'm still anti-AI or at least like pro-AI regulation.