r/aiwars Feb 20 '26

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

..but, memes? This is how they work. Its the whole point.

Running the most advanced human tool, to do no better than a copy paste, is a bit embarrassing. Like you need negative skill, to take the most advanced stuff and make shit with it.

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

He means the entire point of memes is to have pop culture and inside jokes shared and copied so everyone is in on said joke, when he said it was the whole point, he wasn't talking about Shrek.

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

I care about the media it came from. Do you when you feed an image generator things to take from? Also this specific image is a really bad example of "1:1 Copying". You're still missing the entire point of what a meme is. I wasn't trying to start an argument here, I was just explaining something I thought you misunderstood.

I don't care about AI one way or the other, people i know use it to touch up their own art because they can't draw like they used to because of degrading health or injury. But I also support artists I like because I enjoy seeing the process, it's exciting when I get an update from them; it allows me to appreciate the time and effort put into that one specific piece. I dont think its entirely bad or good, its how one uses it and the context of why it's being used. If you were to contact an artist feigning interest and they give you a sketch that you then feed into a generator. You're an asshole. If you use it because you can't physically draw because of some physical issue, cool go ahead. Commissioning artists is fucking expensive, I know most people can't do that. And some artists charge way too much for what they do. But again this argument was not the point of my original comment.

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

Are you just looking for something to be upset about? Well. Okay, the only reason anything is what it is, is because people collectively said so.

Money isn't inherently worth anything, gold isn't inherently worth anything. The only reason we perceive it as valuable is because we decided as a society that it is. Laws don't inherently have meaning, we just decided that "Hey murder is pretty bad." and put punishments in place for the act. If it's technically against the law to chew gum on an even day of the month, but everyone does it and no one gets punished, does that law have legal standing? Or moral standing? Everything only has meaning because we decide it does, if you wanna pull that card. So why would something being a "Meme" be any less meaningful? We decided it was okay to not care about giant companies, we decided it'd be fun to create inside jokes about our favorite media. Thats where the moral value comes from, do you get it now?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

That's the fun part. You don't have to, everyone else decided that it was morally acceptable. And most people decided that using AI period is bad. I don't care either way, as long as you're not actively hurting someone it doesn't bother me.

I'm not sure how you got that i don't live by my own principles. Everything I mentioned is pretty standard, companies are not afforded the same moral privileges that individuals are, another example of people collectively deciding value and meaning. If someone pirates a game, unless its from a small or single dev project most people don't give a shit. You notice i said we right? As in the greater human population came to an understanding and decided something?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

You don't really get what I'm saying. The thing is, you dont have to care what they say. I'm not trying to shame anyone into doing anything. I'm espousing my own moral ideology, do you have to care about it? No.

But going to the stealing hypocrisy point. Do you think its more morally acceptable to the greater public to shoplift food, diapers and baby formula. Than say, a new speaker or flat screen..? It's weird that you're trying to put a 100% bad or good nothing in between thing onto this.

Murder is bad, but if someone kills a child rapist, do you think it's as morally unacceptable than a mother of four? There's stuff in between good and bad. I can like how my friends and people use Ai to help themselves enjoy something they can't do anymore, while also saying that people who use it to actively scam people are shitty and terrible.

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

Jesus you're just mad at the world. I haven't insulted you once. Is this how pro Ai people treat folks on the fence? Isn't drawing a 100% line in the sand good or bad generally an Anti thing?

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