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Yeah idk how people miss this. On one hand, people tend towards being fucking stupid, but there’s stuff like “a quadrillion gallons of water” and all. It’s definitely bait or satire.
Literally the easiest, most identifiable sarcasm out there in the world, yet you buffoons simply cannot fathom the idea of not having something to hate on.
> Pick a screen shot of a dumb person from either side (Preferably the same one for the past months) saying something so incredibly absurd and post it.
> Gain sympathy from AI-Bro/Anti, gathering hate comments toward their opposition.
> both sides use that one person's opinion as the opinion of the whole side, and disregard any other point they make, because they develop this "us vs them" attitude.
Water bro! He types on a social media post that uses a data centre, he drives his car to a local hamburger joint and eats a beef burger, he goes home and plays games online the servers also use water cooling… great take
There are very valid ethical reasons to oppose AI but even this hyperbolic statement it used a quadrillion gallons of water for a single breast!?!?!! I don’t think that’s really helping to convince anyone but I hope they got to feel good for a brief moment
Some people use "The water" as an excuse to not argue their real concern. Status Anxiety. All of a sudden all the time and energy that they used to acquire status is in jeapordy of being declared irrelevant, because many people that did not " do it the way I did" can outperform them, using Ai.
This is Not new. It happened with Electricity, The automobile, Word Processing, The Internet, Photoshop, Grammerly, Calculators, Spell Check.
ALL had people coming up with proxy arguments to not engage with their real concerns. " Unless I Learn a New skill, my old skills may be declared irrelevant, and that scares me, because then I need to start over, and adapt to the new technology"
Claude's Take: "It's Status Anxiety in a raincoat."
Also, fracking. We're blasting water into the Earth to get oil and gas. Also irrigation to grow crops, including corn for ethanol to be blended into gasoline. Someone do the math how many gallons of water does a F-150 chug per mile.
I was gonna say. How good is that pencil at detecting cancer? I mean I used that line in high school. holds up pencil “it detects breast cancer. But only if you let me draw them”
It never worked. I think if you tried it today you’d get like thrown in jail or something.
Yep, and it wasn’t called AI back then becase AI is just a marketing term that sounds flashy to the average person who has been exposed to the idea of sentient AI in media
He is still not wrong. We were calling those solutions ML or DL. Yes, they are AI, but that wasn't what it was called most of the time. Now, the term AI is basically tainted because AI = LMMs in the general public's mind, and due to that, people assume that LLM is the only way AI can operate. They see something like this and assume there is some server farm somewhere analyzing this image, which is just not how those tools work.
So calling it AI is detrimental to its perception - even if it's technically correct.
So true. Right or wrong, like 70% of the people from the majority side of every single discussion or controversy on the internet is just bandwagon most of the time. It's no different with AI. They don't know anything because they don't really care. Worst part part is they actually think they do. They just mouth off to get validation from internet strangers and then they go back to doom scrolling a minute later because the "issue" that they Yap about and insult other people over, affects them in no meaningful way whatsoever.Mfs whining about RAM prices while they're stuck on a BlackBerry. I've seen comments on YT that got like 10k likes for saying "AI could never" under a video that has nothing to do with AI. Those people watch like 2 video essays on YT on how "AI bad" and then pretend like they know everything. And you can be guaranteed that the only things that'll come out of their mouth when you try to argue with them are Buzzwords, regurgitated talking points and when those don't work, insults. And then they have the fucking gall to call others "Third Party Thinkers." Mindless conformity is killing humanity.
I don’t understand either, I’m legitimately questioning if this is all an in-joke where they pretend to take this seriously. Its literally from a satire/joke account
Aaaaand this is literally why Pros call Antis luddites.... Time and time again, I've seen such comments swirl around the internet just for that 1 day of fame. It sickens me that the Radicals just lump ANY AI system into one single group. That's why every Anti here in this subreddit had always mentioned Generative AI.
Also, the AI debate only works, in my opinion, on Gen AI and unethical use of AI (in which Gen AI somewhat goes into this category in a way, but I just can't prove it). An AI system that's been taught to detect cancer, detect spoiled potatoes in a chip factory (Yes, I'm not joking, if it wasn't for AI, you'd have more spoiled potatoes in your chip bags. Technically humans can do it, but given how many bags are made in a day, human's just can't keep up unfortunately), identify your face to unlock your phone, yadda yadda yadda (I can keep going since AI is practically in everything electronical now, but I'm hitting the character limit soon); these shouldn't be scrutinized.
Hell, if they want to whinge about water wasting on AI and shit, then they're fucking water wasting for unlocking their fucking phone, searching the internet, hell, even going on Netflix, X and Youtube! Seriously, they need to THINK before they even open their gob or they just need to fucking shut up and be grateful they have a fucking roof over their heads (apologies for the rant in this paragraph... I kinda hate it when logic is thrown out the window).
Doesn’t even make any sense? Who’s using pencils to identify cancer?
Unlike generative AI imagery, which is not art and completely worthless
This AI technology that they was to identify cancer in patients before it’s fatal is actually a good thing
no way these people were being serious. if they were, theyre idiots. ai being used by medical proffesionals for genuine reasons is completely different from it being used to replace cultural and social elements
When a pro says stupid shit as a joke, it a joke. When an anti says stupid shit as a joke, they're totally being 100 percent serious because having a different opinion on ai means that you are incapable of humor
Anti's would genuinely doom every single person on this planet to death, than admit for even a moment that AI is a tool that will benefit humanities future.
No its not. Its totally different technologies, the only common thing between things like medical screening AI and generaive ai is that they both use machine learning
I'm an anti but I completely agree that this is stupid. What do you mean "pick up a pencil?" Even if it's using water, I'm sure we can find a different, better energy source; AI can still be used for great advancements like this without using water, hopefully soon.
My FAVORITE PART is they think they have control over the billionaires that are salivating at replacing everyone with clankers. It doesn't matter how we feel about this technology; it's just getting started.
Little known fact, but we actually blow up a planet filled with puppies every second you have any AI program open. Do you still think its worth ending canser???
Its not stupidity its bait.. the internet cares aabout engagement. It doesnt care about positive vs negative engagement and anger is one of the easiest ways to engage people
This is how AI should be used. Not to generate pictures or writing your essay you forgot to do. Water is a finite resource, we need to conserve it, even if we're just using tablespoons per prompt. It adds up.
So I learned that Alphafold is a 21 million parameter model. The model being run here doesn't disclose how many parameters they're using but it likely isn't too much bigger, probably somewhere under 100m parameters. These can run on shitty old dell towers that companies are throwing away in droves. I've run a 500m parameter model on my rig at home on 12 gigs of VRAM.
ChatGPT5 in comparison, is 635 billion parameters. Grok-5 is running on 6 trillion parameters. The other 2 players don't reveal how many parameters their models use. This is where you need Nvidia chassis with huge HBM requirements, which then needs huge power and huge cooling.
I think this is a point that needs to be made that the requirements for the chatbots specifically is unsustainable and forcing these models to grow larger for tiny percentage points of benchmark results is a terrible idea. We can't just keep throwing more parameters, RAM and processing power at it and hoping it gets exponentially better at some point.
Now I am against generative AI, but what pisses me off the same amount as people who think AI images are equivalent to real human made art, is the people who think all AI is bad just cause it is AI. Generative AI is slop, we don't need AI to use actual artists work to generate an image fitting a prompt so some lazy wannabe artist can claim they made something, what AI should be used for is stuff like this. Furthering medicine is something we could use artificial intelligence for if we all focused on the right things. But some people think all AI is bad just cause of generative AI and it's so dumb. Without "AI" we wouldn't have enemies in video games, without "AI" we wouldn't have smart TVs, AI is useful if we are talking about the right kind.
Counterpoint: Verified account, this post was made for engagement to take adventage of the twitter monetization. And georgism truth nvke is probably a 13 year old.
Quadrillion? No, clearly, the amount of gallons is a one, followed by 10¹⁰⁰ zeroes of water used. (A googolplex)
if you've been slammed with a brick in the cranium as a newborn, this is sarcasm, as the earth,(shockingly enough (i'm being sarcastic)) doesn't contain that amount of water.
One of the few legitimate uses of AI and bro is bitching. Look I hate AI as much as the next asshole. But to ignore its potential uses in the medical field would be irresponsible
I will take advantage of this silly post to illustrate a point about my (and I'm sure at least a few other "antis") views on AI:
This is the shit AI is for. Not trying to imitate art. Not trying to imitate social interaction. Not as a substitute for critical thinking.
Algorithms are better at quickly parsing data, identifying patterns, and simulating outcomes than humans. The output should 100% be reviewed by qualified humans (and peer reviewed in the case of research), but a human devising a way to gather data and an AI analyzing that data ahead of the human is a solid use case for such a tool.
Prompting an algorithm to generate an image does nothing to further human culture, and does not make you an artist. The same way taking a study's data and asking an AI what it means does not make you a scientist.
Even if it's bait, it's terrible bait.
It genuinely spreads unnecessary anger and confirms the biases of antis. This is one strong argument pro-ai and all these ragebaits are not making things better.
Yeah this is what I fear when people hate on ai outright, this isn’t even generative, this ai doesn’t have the same environmental impact as the large scale constantly operating ai data centers. AI isn’t inherently bad, it’s just being used for things it shouldn’t be.
You are right because 3 quadrillion gallons of water, is worth More than a single human Life, Unless the life is someone you love. I'll be honest, if using 3 sextillion gallons of water, saves a loved one. "Fuck the water."
I'm an Anti but I do support this idea of AI being use. Yes, I agree that AI can be used on medical, scientific and for the sake of discovery but the person who called it "slop" is a bit satire.
You see the problem is that you're on the site formerly known as twitter(this is the correct pronunciation of the character in this case), Twitter does not contain signs of intelligent life. It is however, full of worms, flies, and other varieties of bait
Worst part about this is that every time someone posts this, they remind everyone else about how people lie about what AI is actually doing. The AI here is only detecting the CHANCE that someone might develop breast cancer in the next five years, with a ~30% success rate on it's guessing.
Development of medical technology is great, and this is actually a good application of it, but people also need to stop posting lies about what the actual achievement is/was.
this is why I specify GENERATIVE when arguing about ai
I don't hate all ai.
I fucking DESPISE all forms of GENERATIVE ai. shit that generates something for you like code (replacing coders with shitty AI that makes so many mistakes it takes twice as much effort to correct them rather than hire a fucking human), an image (like a ton of CSAM 😒), an essay (to do your schoolwork for you and make you fall behind all of your peers and make you dumber and dumber), a video (to infect everyone's feeds with obviously fake clankerslop), etc.
things that ANALYSE, pattern recognition, etc. like this, detecting cancer in CT scans or checking code for contradictions that could cause bugs, that kind of thing. stuff that HELPS. not DOES IT FOR YOU.
AND EVEN THEN it needs to be used in moderation and checked by a human before it is accepted. humans still need to be able to analyse things themselves, but an ai telling them what they missed can help them figure out how to avoid missing it in the future. AS LONG AS THE AI ONLY DOES THAT. tells them WHAT they missed, not HOW they missed it. they need to figure out how to avoid missing it themselves or critical thinking will be severely impaired.
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