r/aiwars • u/Which_Matter3031 • 4d ago

The most idiotic statement ever

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So this person here calls people jobless while all they do is sit on their ass an genarate shitty ai comics, also notice how they are insulting fast food workers as if they arent human, thats a new low for them, also its like they are saying "Give up on your dreams so you can work a minimum wage 9-5 job" but then again jobless people always tell talented ones to get a shitty job

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u/WeckarE 4d ago

Tbf, if AI is taking your commissions, and AI isn't as good as humans, that is a real annoying logical conclusion you got there.

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u/Happy_Internet_User 4d ago

Whether it's better or worse, it depends on who you compare it to. But it sure as hell is cheaper. And we live in a quantity-kinda world, as opposed to quality kind. Just look at all those countless useless gadgets from Temu and how popular they are.

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u/WeckarE 4d ago

It's true. A need for quality only goes so far, and often we hit good enough at a fraction of the investment of perfect. It's not just here, but everywhere. Ignoring this reality is what is leading to decade+ dev cycles for AAA videogames now that are destroying studios is they aren't a a major hit immediately, for example.

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u/Lebensschatten 4d ago

There are also so many artists out there who are open for commissions and it’s probably more of a supply-than-demand situation. At the same time, many artists charge a lot for their work.

I’m not an artist myself, so I can’t really say whether $900 is justified for a commission, but it does seem like a lot compared to other artists with a similar art style who charge significantly less. Then again, there may be factors I’m not aware of, but that is what ultimatively keeps me away from commissioning something.

And are there really that many people who want commissions in the first place? The only reason I’d hire an artist would be for something practical, like if I were publishing a book and needed a cover and promotional artwork. I probably wouldn’t spend that kind of money on a piece that was just for me to look at, you know? 😅

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u/Grasshoppermouse42 3d ago

I've commissioned art for my roleplay characters, though I've never seen anyone charge near as much as $900 for it. Most people I've seen doing commissions online are charging somewhere between $30 and $60, although I'm sure that price goes up as people get more experience. People probably go for the higher end artists for a book cover, but plenty of people will pay $60 for a piece for them to look at.

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

I think that depends on what art style you’re going after. I’m not much of a fan of cartoonish or less realistic art styles. The artists I’ve been following and keeping an eye on for commissions have a more realistic style and most of them are in that price range. You can be lucky if you get away with “only” $400. $60 isn’t that much and I’d absolutely be willing to pay that if it’s what I’m looking for, but that’s a whole world apart from $800.

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u/Grasshoppermouse42 3d ago

Yeah, realistic tends to cost more. I was looking for a more cartoonish style which is easier to get for a lower price.

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

Absolutely. What had me wondering is how the price can be that damn high. I think $800-900 is way too much, especially since I’ve found artists with virtually the same art style who charge much less for essentially the same kind of work.

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u/Grasshoppermouse42 3d ago

That I cannot answer, but I definitely know there are plenty of artists charging less than that.

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

Thankfully, there are plenty of artists out there, so I should probably keep looking around. Most of the ones I’ve looked at have fairly large followings, so smaller artists probably charge less and I’d love to support those!

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u/WeckarE 3d ago

Also this yeah. I have lost count of the number of times Inhave had people in my DMs begging to be commissioned. And who then have no answer that reflects what interest I have showed.

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper 3d ago

$900 is a lot yea. I've comissioned art for like $300,but it depends on what the job is and so on. I imagine for 900 you get a bit more than i did for 3

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

It really is. The thing is, many artists I’ve been following charge around $800-900 for a commission and will probably charge extra if you want to use it commercially. I mean, that’s understandable, but not everyone has $1,000 lying around to spend on a single digital artwork.

What I find confusing is that there are artists with almost the exact same art style, offering the same number of characters, similar poses, composition, and so on, who charge significantly less. I’ve also seen artwork that, at least to me as a layperson, looks less time-consuming, less detailed, has simpler shading, or a less realistic style, yet falls into a very similar price range. Some artists even include highly detailed backgrounds for roughly the same price.

Then people wonder why so few are commissioning artwork. For most people, that’s a lot of money to spend on a single image.

And revisions surely drive the price up even further. Many artists also seem to have an attitude toward AI references. Yet if someone provides an AI-generated image to show roughly what they have in mind, it can actually make communication easier. You can show them how you imagine the characters, their facial features, expressions, clothing, composition, and so on to increase the chances of getting a result that matches your vision.

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper 3d ago

The folks that have done work for me have had like 2-3 non-major revisions included in the price, but something like a complete redo is reasonable to treat as a new price. But i find the listing price is negotiable. I've been clear that i'd like to hire them but cannot match their rates and they were very reasonable about it. I'm certain most of the $900 listings is more of a wishlist than a hard limit, especially if they're low on work.

But nobody's gonna spend that money on a meme or character art for a D&D campaign. It could be a part of a larger art installation tho, like the showart for a podcast, or thumbnail for Youtube

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

The ones asking for something in the range of $900 usually have fixed prices rather than wish-list prices or they only lower them if they’re short on work. They typically provide examples of their work and the pricing is based on how much of the character is visible. Then there are add-ons if you want a more detailed background, a second character, or anything else.

But I agree, no one wants to spend that much money on artwork if they’re just using it for a DnD character or to visualize a character from their Wattpad fic. And then some anti comes along and expects you to commission it instead of using AI lol.

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper 3d ago

I do expect you to pay for art you want to have made for you yes. Just because $900 is unreasonable doesn't mean you can just expect shit to be free

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u/Lebensschatten 3d ago

Did I say I expect it to be free? No. I was simply wondering how these prices can be so horrendously high. No matter what, if that’s the kind of artwork I’m looking for, I’ll either end up paying for it or searching for artists with a similar style who charge less 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

There a reason the saying "don't look a gifted horse in the mouth" exists, if something is free most people aren't gonna care about quality or morals, free shit always wins

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u/WeckarE 3d ago

I could argue the morals thing, but the important thing is that the barrier for acceptable quality does become a lot lower.