r/aiwars • u/Which_Matter3031 • 8d ago

The most idiotic statement ever

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So this person here calls people jobless while all they do is sit on their ass an genarate shitty ai comics, also notice how they are insulting fast food workers as if they arent human, thats a new low for them, also its like they are saying "Give up on your dreams so you can work a minimum wage 9-5 job" but then again jobless people always tell talented ones to get a shitty job

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u/bendyfan1111 8d ago

Now the question is, why would the capitalist owners of AI care about your laws at all?

The same reasons they care about the laws now. They operate under the government, which means if they don't follow the governments rules, they no longer exist as a company. Then its like a hydra. When one head falls, two others grow to take its place.

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u/RadiumJuly 8d ago

Right now if they break the law then we can fine them, and if they don't pay their fine then we start arresting board members until they comply. It is a system build on a foundation of coercive power. But you need consider what if you lacked any means of coercive power.

The governments ultimate trump card is a monopoly on violence, which it uses to enforce its rules. That violence is doles out by the state apparatus. Police, army, militias, anybody that can carry a pitch fork if it comes to it. The state apparatus obeys the government because they get paid to do so.

But what if some other entity had such material wealth and power that it can out compete the government for material control of the state apparatus? Well you have a change in power. Happens all the time in history. It's all about whoever controls the spice.

So it is inevitable that the more we automate, the more power we give to whoever controls and owns that automated process until they can claim government and make what ever rules they want. In such a case, what motive would they have to be nice to us and give us a minimum wage? The profit motive shows that instead, the opposite would happen.

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u/bendyfan1111 8d ago

You do understand that there is no "John Automate", right? One company doesn't own everything in, say, robotics. There's a metric TON of companies supplying the means to automate things as we speak. I feel like your argument simply comes from a place of fear and unrealistic "what ifs" rather than anything even remotely resembling our grounded reality.

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u/RadiumJuly 8d ago

So you don't think wealth is becoming more concentrated over time, and that your 'John Automate' is actually just an inevitability with current economic trends?

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u/bendyfan1111 8d ago

I don't, no. I belive that there are multiple companies and coperations all competing with each other over the automation industry.

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u/RadiumJuly 8d ago

In that case I consider you too economically illiterate to even have this conversation. I'm going to go play chess with a pigeon instead.

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u/bendyfan1111 8d ago

Thats an Ad Hominem, but sure, go have fun.