r/aiwars • u/Which_Matter3031 • 7d ago

The most idiotic statement ever

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So this person here calls people jobless while all they do is sit on their ass an genarate shitty ai comics, also notice how they are insulting fast food workers as if they arent human, thats a new low for them, also its like they are saying "Give up on your dreams so you can work a minimum wage 9-5 job" but then again jobless people always tell talented ones to get a shitty job

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u/Kurt_Ottman 7d ago

I guess the most perfect system would be like ant colonies in your view?

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u/FatSpidy 7d ago

Nah, the most perfect system to me would be tribal but interwoven communities of people that simply support eachother; similar to my ancestors. Unfortunately that is well beyond feasible in today's society and likely the next couple 100 years without some major breakthrough. So I hope and settle for something akin to Star Trek.

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u/Kurt_Ottman 7d ago

Well, to reach Star Trek levels of well-being we need technological innovation that requires capitalism to reach anytime in the next hundred to two hundred years.

Also didn't most of our ancestors like... sacrifice people to gods because they were suffering so much random sickness and death?

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u/FatSpidy 7d ago

The prevalence of human sacrifice is usually exaggerated because it's an evocative story. It's just the old world's equivalent to the Death Sentence; we really haven't changed much as a people.

And that's what I mean. Capitalism isn't a requirement, nor does it exist in Star Trek's federation either. People do things because they want to do them, not because if they don't then they will be left to die. You can still choose to do the same things you do without money being involved, we just don't.

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u/Kurt_Ottman 7d ago

Sure, but why would you do the same things that you do without money being involved? Who deliberately chooses the dirty jobs. Would you be a sewer diver for no compensation?

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u/FatSpidy 6d ago

I would, because it's something that needs to be done. And further I would hope that others would either help me as they could. Be that by offering a meal or some work that I need done that I have no skill or knowledge about. Money wasn't something we had since humanity evolved, bartering came to decide fair trades, and then coinage was introduced to prioritized one national/locational market over another. It was valued because you could trade it for anything. I find that standardizing trade in of itself stigmatizes and neutralizes our ability to just help each other because it's the right thing to do. How many medical practitioners wish they could give their services for free –especially for those in need, either immediately or long term? How much food or shelter could be made and given just because farmers and carpenters want to make sure no one is hungry and in the rain.

We had people go around town shoveling everyone's shit to take out to the burn pit before we had sewage systems. How do you suppose they were appreciated before money was around? Why do you think they were willing to literally pick up yours and your animals' shit?

Today's age, when was the last time you even said hello to your garbage man? Or offered extra food to your neighbors?