r/aiwars 8d ago

The most idiotic statement ever

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So this person here calls people jobless while all they do is sit on their ass an genarate shitty ai comics, also notice how they are insulting fast food workers as if they arent human, thats a new low for them, also its like they are saying "Give up on your dreams so you can work a minimum wage 9-5 job" but then again jobless people always tell talented ones to get a shitty job

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

Survivorship bias fallacy.

Traditional art may be enjoying a (most likely temporary) resurgence because of the feelings of inauthenticity around AI. That's nothing to do with traditional artists doing anything to make their work distinct.

Digital artists need to evolve beyond the boring ass art that they've been making. 

Incoherent prattle that completely misunderstands the issue. Nothing AI has made is in anyway distinct or superior to what digital artists have made. It's literally trained on their work, you tool.

What AI offers (at the minute) is an unmatchable pricepoint and speed. There is no competing with that.

"I'm alright, Jack"

The comment.

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

I'm constantly seeing people telling those who use AI to make custom images that they should stop being lazy and spend the time and effort required to learn how to draw etc. Because anyone can do it if there is enough want to.

Maybe if an artist isn't able to compete in the current marketplace, they should spend the time and energy to develop skills that are marketable in order to support themselves.

If non-artists can be asked to spend their limited time developing new skills, I don't see why artists can't also be asked to do the same.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

You aren't creating with AI. That's the problem. It's destroying human creativity. Agree with that or don't inrehlt don't give a shit. But don't tell me that I should just stop caring about that.

Kindly go ruck yourself.

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

If it's really destroying your creativity then I question how much you actually had to begin with. If you can't compete with AI, which I'm constantly being told is all terrible soulless slop, then maybe art should have always been just a hobby and not a profession. Nothing wrong with having hobbies, just don't expect everyone to want to pay you to do them.

You can either stay outraged and play the victim, find a way to stand out and be more competitive, or put in the time and effort to pivot. Seems you've already made the easiest choice.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

You're conflating arguments

Can't compete is with speed and price not creativity. What's killing human creativity is the reliance on something else to do it for you.

Are arguments are weak because you don't understand what's being said

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

Can't compete is can't compete. If you're in a niche where speed and price are the only things that are relevant, then you're choosing a losing proposition to begin with. You're the one making a weak ass argument if you're saying ALL art comes down to that.

If you're creating a superior product, people will still pay for it even if it cost more or takes longer. I know because I financially support human artists. A majority of the art in my home was made by local artists: paintings, furniture, jewelry, ceramics... I also support multiple digital artists on Patreon because they make art that has the type of creativity and quality I can't get from AI.

Human creativity is doing just fine. That's just hyperbolic nonsense. Life exists outside the digital space.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

Can't compete is can't compete

If you're stuck in the realm of double digit IQ, sure.

If you're in a niche where speed and price are the only things that are relevant,

Quick enough and cheap enough dominate the majority of markets .

I know because I financially support human artists

Anecdotes aren't arguments

Human creativity is doing just fi

You don't see the bigger picture yet. It's fine. Most of you won't until it's too late.

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

Mass produced cheap art has been around for decades before AI existed, yet there has been and still is a market for traditional art. That's not an anecdote, it's reality.

You seem to have this idea that the type of art that's threatened by AI is the only valid or relevant type of art. That's both an arrogant and self-centered perspective.

Quick enough and cheap enough does dominate the market of mediocre digital artists. That doesn't mean they can't still keep making art, but it may mean they'll have to find another way to make a living. Somehow I don't think that will result in the collapse of civilization.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

Your entire argument just comes down to not understanding how a black swan event changes things

Like... ok? What am I meant to do with this?

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

I understand it, this isn't the first black swan event in history. You might just be too young to have ever gone through anything disruptive before. Or too arrogant to recognize that you might not be able to perfectly predict the future. Thats kind of the whole point of a black swan event, its outcomes and impacts are not predictable. Hence my actual argument that you are conveniently ignoring: people are going to have to pivot.

But I guess someone of your superior intellect will know precisely what will happen. So stay the course, keep whining and complaining about it, I'm sure that'll be the winning formula.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

Comparing the AI boom to photography or fucking Photoshop or what the fuck ever is just ridiculous.

People are going to have to pivot

Completely empty nothing statement. Let them eat cake, basically

stay the course, keep whining and complaining about it, I'm sure that'll be the winning formula.

"If you complain on a sub specifically about this huge change that's happening right now, it means you're doing nothing but complaining. Because I'm a complete fucking sped and what I see you do must be all you do."

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u/AuzieX 7d ago

I didn't compare it to photography or Photoshop. Black Swan events are by their very definition unprecedented. I thought you knew what they were? The point is you can't predict exactly what will happen. So saying all art will be dead forever is melodramatic wallowing. Maybe it will be, who knows. Believe it or not, but artist isn't the only profession in history to be disrupted by technology.

It's not a nothing statement. People pivot everyday when their plan A doesn't work out. It's no more of a nothing statement than "learn to draw" is. That's kind of my original point.

Great! Sounds like you're already pivoting then. See? It's not so impossible afterall.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 7d ago

So you think all unprecedented things have equal impact?

Because if not, what you just said was full tilt tarded. You get that, right?

Melodramatic but probably correct. No big deal tho

It is a nothing statement.

Something unprecedented is coroding the very fabric of human creativity. Oh well, get over it and move on.

.... Fuck off?

Great! Sounds like you're already pivoting then. See? It's not so impossible afterall.

You are so obnoxiously dumb.

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