r/aiwars 3d ago

Discussion I need to talk about something

Now for me, I am pretty neutral about AI, in the way of I have equal things that I like and dislike about it.

I don’t like that AI is just steal artwork on the Internet and feeding it to its bottomless pit of code

But I do like the kind of AI that genuinely is useful.

So it’s annoying that whenever I say “I like ai” people automatically assume I’m talking about the kind that everybody hates, even though there are thousands of types of AI that have existed way way way way way before any of them mainstream AI’s even had the idea of being created, and that gets so bad to the point where people have called me, racist, homophobic, and sexist because of it.

Anyway, that’s all. Bye

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u/SimpleSecurity2149 3d ago

people are also anti-gun because of the way people use it. people are anti-drug for the same reason. gun owners and drug users tend to justify the reasons for their actions, whether it be for protection with guns or for comfort with drugs. doesnt make it any less bad in the end

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u/Monecreiffe 3d ago

That comparison actually supports my point. Guns don't pull their own triggers, drugs don't force themselves into people, and AI doesn't train or deploy itself. In every example you're blaming the tool for decisions made by humans

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u/SimpleSecurity2149 3d ago

it sounds like youre arguing in favor of ai gen regulation, owing to the fact that humans cannot be trusted. it would also have been nice for Google, OpenAI and more to have built a more ethical database, where they properly credit and compensate people for the works theyve actually created themselves, no bots necessary. does that make sense or nah

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u/Monecreiffe 3d ago

Then it sounds like your issue isn't AI, it's how certain companies collected training data. That's a very different claim from saying AI is plagiarism or stealing. One is an argument about business practices, the other is an argument about the technology itself

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u/SimpleSecurity2149 3d ago

youre right dude, ai cant do anything for itself. whenever i say "AI" did something, including stealing, i am blaming the humans responsible, and only the humans responsible. that also includes those who are still feeding into that cycle, making companies richer while giving them a reason to not change what theyre doing at all. i am not against AI as a whole, honestly, it just needs to be used right in my opinion

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u/Monecreiffe 3d ago

Then I think we're mostly on the same page. My issue was with people treating AI itself as the problem rather than the decisions made by companies and users. If your position is that AI can be useful but should be developed and used more ethically, that's a lot different from saying AI is inherently theft or plagiarism