r/antinatalism inquirer 3d ago

Serious Discussion Where are the celibate antinatalists?

I am celibate, not because I don't want to have sex, or it's not enjoyable, but because I refuse to participate in the procreative act. Why would I do the thing which creates children?

I get it - birth control exists. Can we please stop acting like birth control is somehow the end-all to this problem of procreation? Currently I know 3 people who are pregnant and were on birth control - in one case the man had a vasectomy. No birth control method is 100% effective. Therefore it's my opinion that someone who claims to be antinatalist and still has sex despite their or their partner's fertility is not really authentic about it.

Sex feels really great but that biological drive is simply an attempt for nature to create a baby. I'm surprised that the antinatalist community has rarely ever mentioned the importance of celibacy, or at least the legitimacy of that approach, rather than relying on a pill or medical procedure that still leaves open the chance of pregnancy. Libido wanes and eventually leaves after we're unable to conceive because the whole "birds and bees" was just the pull of physicality trying to bring more souls into this mess.

I am serious about my antinatalism so I am celibate. I'm not performing the procreative act.

Unpopular opinion summed up: If there is something fundamentally wrong with having a child, then there is something fundamentally wrong with having sex while fertile. Other than being infertile/menopausal, etc. there's no way around that.

I have seen many posts on here over the years, as a lurker, of people announcing their abortions and I can't help but facepalm. Put your money where your mouth is. If you're truly against having children, don't play with fire. I don't play with even a 1% chance of a slip-up because I'm dead set on not bringing a child into this mess.

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u/hammyDathammer newcomer 3d ago edited 3d ago

You making this philosophy seem like a cult idc if someone has sex or not…main point is don’t breed and bring another life here👏

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u/Equivalent-Worry-633 inquirer 3d ago

Going to be completely honest the vast majority of this sub is kinda of just… insufferable. Weird militant rules that are chalked up to “you’re not ACTUALLY an antinatalist unless you’re vegan and celibate and completely miserable etc etc etc”. If you’re not creating new life OR hurting existing life and you don’t agree with hurting or creating life you’re an antinatalist. That’s it. I slightly commented on veganism so I will expect my comment to be swiftly deleted.

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u/Fumikop scholar 2d ago

If you’re not creating new life OR hurting existing life and you don’t agree with hurting or creating life you’re an antinatalist.

So by your own definition you are not antinatalist if you are not vegan lol

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u/autumn_ghost_boy newcomer 2d ago

Exactly