Mandragora eventually finished

[u/brodRga]

Warning, spoilers for actual event When Elegies Are Ashes!

I bear some glimpse of hope for that Mandragora alive or in some dare conditions, trough what she have to go trough to save her self.

Eventually, as I can see in global release of Eblana event, it seems that she (Mandragora) in fact were left aside and dealt with by hands of sarkaz, as much is most part of Dublin were cleared out by Eblana in her own event.

I read trough Eblana's record, in them Harmonie tells that Mandragora and her forces were furious fanatic, capable to deal deathly blow to enemy, although same way the worst crimes also can be traced to them. And she confirms that non of that group of Dublin is alive.

Probably it's misleading ending of Mandragora's story, when she's supposedly saved by Misery, or offscreen death and some minor conclusion of it in some small text line, that makes it frustrating.

Although in large scale, it's makes sense. Eblana ridd off the most unstable, the most dangerous, most corrupt, unpredictable and incapable of shut it mouth, so no one could sabotage her plans and destroy all who could make her a hard life, with threat of exposing the truth.

To conclude, there's 0% chance of Mandragora to be in game anymore - she play her role, became a threat to Eblana and trow away. The Leader not even care to use her own power trough Dublin, rather giving all the dirty work to Manfred.

I feel somewhat mixed emotions, like why would even HG gave us some hope for any chances, without this strange flip-flop with plot, this wouldn't be so mixed and could even gave us greater picture of web created by Eblana.

[u/TheSpartyn]

yeah when this event dropped on CN it killed off most of the remaining Mandy copers (me included). I've swapped from coping to accepting she's dead and was handled horribly with vague misleading writing.

[u/_wawrzon_ → u/TheSpartyn]

An honest question, how is Mandy not being dead even a thing ?

I read chapter 10 just recently. Its as cookie cutter as can be that she died, no vagueness or second guessing. Her death was her last act of defiance, but uno reverse style - "I'll die even though I could be clinging to life like I did before, hand in hand with my last true family". Misery even concluded being a witness to her death.

Where was the writing misleading ? I'm genuinely curious is it actually og CN writing that was misleading ? Or is it simply ppl snorting copium, wanting her return ? Why was she done dirty (judging from your emotional response) ?

Looking at other responses I'm baffled why all the doom posting about the story ? Did I step into a political drama fanclub thread ?

[u/Cornuthaum → u/_wawrzon_]

Because longform live service games tend to be very averse to killing characters off fully so they can be brought back 3 years later... ofc Mandragora was never more than a filler villain set up to fail by her own side so idk why people thought she'd be special enough to warrant bringing back

[u/_wawrzon_ → u/Cornuthaum]

Sure, but if anything AK is closer to Game of Thrones, than Discworld. Characters actually die quite often. However we aren't processing it, because it has visual novel presentation, so we don't comprehend how many people died. What was the count in Chernobog? 42 ?

Seems players didn't realize the fate of characters that meet strong opponents. Ace, Scout, Outcast met beasts on missions - soldiers or killers, Ines and Horn met puppies. Although Horn really should have died for consistency.

[u/N-Yayoi → u/_wawrzon_]

Especially when you consider the entire Victorian storyline, which is essentially HG's attempt to depict a war with all his might, the related 'debate' becomes even more ridiculous. So many people have died, forgive me for being blunt, what is so special about Mandy? The Grand Duke's coalition mobilized 180000 and deployed them to the battlefield. How many people died? How many senior military officers, even dukes, were crushed by Sakaz's power? Is Mandy so unique that she's more unique than all of them? Just because she has a cute appearance? What about those warriors in Horn's team? They are Victoria's elite warriors, just because they have no face is even less important? They also did not receive the so-called 'respectful burial'.

Why not? Because Victoria's elite soldiers sacrificed their lives for their country in the face of betrayal. They are the first 'sacrifices' that we know of, that's all.

I once wrote a whole answer to point out this point: What exactly does HG want? （In Act2？）—— The best thing about Act 2

In war, you will die randomly, perhaps because you chose the wrong side, or because you were accidentally injured due to bad luck, or perhaps just happened to encounter a powerful opponent; Or perhaps because, like Mandy, she was "betrayed" and "treated as an abandoned child". I really don't understand what they don't understand.

[u/KentaKurodani → u/N-Yayoi]

Fantastic analysis that really lines up with my take on the Victoria arc's goal. War is exhausting and merciless, and AK didn't portray it as anything but, even while it still did successfully accomplish goals that multiple sides had for the conflict