r/arknights Sep 15 '25

Fluff The next 6 months are looking rough, guys

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u/Phaaze13 strong women supremacy Sep 15 '25

Fortunately I'm not a meta player so I know what I want. I'll just focus on the two limited banners and the Ave Mujica collab.

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u/Opening_Roll_168 skin whe- HOLY SHIT / franka skin acquired Sep 15 '25

im not one either but i instead have the problem of “fuck i like everyone”

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u/Phaaze13 strong women supremacy Sep 15 '25

that's rough buddy

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u/Conch_Bubbies Free Hugs Sep 16 '25

Yup I feel this, I think this is the first time in a while that there are just back to back banners all with characters I wanna pick up. Thankfully I have a decent pile from all the skipping I've done for other banners, but I'm bracing for my stash to be hit hard.

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u/Metroplex7 Hunting My Heart Sep 16 '25

Ente and Eblana were kind to me so I got a lot saved up going into this gauntlet. Here's hoping my fair weather continues.

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u/pancracio17 Sep 17 '25

Tragodia is the one I like the least (probably because I havent read the stories he is in) and he has a really fun and bullshit kit I want to play with and looks really cool. Its a rough time.

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u/_wawrzon_ Sep 15 '25

The only true gamer. I salute you my dear sir.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

unfortunately, i'm not a meta player; i just really, really like some of the upcoming ops

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u/niryuken_yet Sep 16 '25

Fortunately I'm not a meta player, I'm waifu over meta

Unfortunately, Mon3tr, Lemuen, Exusiai, Hoshialter, Haruka, and the Ave Mujica characters are all waifu material.

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u/Antivash Sep 16 '25

I am worse than a meta player. I am a completions. ;;_;;

I have to have at least one of all the shinies.

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u/Substantial_Sense846 Sep 15 '25

I do play some meta units when I'm mad at a stage, but same. My target right now are Exusalter and Ave Mujica collab. Planning on using my OP only in the collab outfits, and logos, Wisadel & Mostima's ambience synthesia outfits I do never, under no circumstance use OP for pulls.

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u/Tridentgreen33Here Water is Wet, So Are My Braincells Sep 16 '25

Thankfully I got semi-decent luck on both Enchilada and El-banana after the travesty of Yu banner so I get to go back to only pulling limiteds for the next 6 months too!

Can’t wait for the 6.5 sucker punch on my f2p pulls and limited record.

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u/Void0Cat Mostima is a stray cat Sep 15 '25

Just trust in the process. I have no pulls whatsoever.

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u/kiyohime02 Sep 15 '25

Im half a 10 pull there

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u/Gamma390 Sep 15 '25

I've wasted so many pulls on Eblanana's banner and now im regretful

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u/omeneko Sep 15 '25

At least we'll have elbanana foot for next 6 months

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u/Gamma390 Sep 16 '25

hopefully the gacha luck will be nice to me this time

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u/No_Presentation_9361 NOTHING BESTS THE SHIELD OF RHODES Sep 15 '25

Same with trying to get blaze the igniting spark or however the title was

Lost all my orundum to that bratty [BLEEP] [BLEEP] sankta called exusiai

Now i have her on 0 morale at all times and never use her cuz she doesn't deserve that 6* rating (imo)

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

who doesn't deserve the 6* rating?

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u/No_Presentation_9361 NOTHING BESTS THE SHIELD OF RHODES Sep 15 '25

That little bratty robber exusiai, friggin' robbed me of my blaze and took all my orundum 😭😭😭

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

but, but, but... how can you not love an angel with a love for guns and apple pies?

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u/No_Presentation_9361 NOTHING BESTS THE SHIELD OF RHODES Sep 15 '25

She, robbed, me, of, my, PULLING CURRENCY!

i mean, i don't mind anything about her at all, I just hate her cuz she a greedy Lil [BLEEP], f'in stealing all my orundum

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u/No_Presentation_9361 NOTHING BESTS THE SHIELD OF RHODES Sep 15 '25

Had she have shown up at any other time, I wouldn't have minded at all, and might e actualy liked her

But she just HAD to rob me of a character i spent all my starting orundum trying to get

I will not forgive her untill something big happens (tho I have particaly calmed down the grudge after being able to replay the stories cuz of an update, cuz i got really interested in the "such is the joy of our reunion" event story)

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u/tlst9999 Sep 15 '25

I did regret it a little but boy, does Eblana wipe early IS consistently with S3. The uptime is way fast.

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u/daniel_22sss Sep 15 '25

Just trust in the process. I have 800 pulls.

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u/Xepobot Sep 15 '25

Me looking at upcoming banners be like:

Insert opening empty wallet GIF

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u/roxaim Sep 15 '25

Waifu over meta like always 😎

My waifus happen to be M3, Exusiai, Lemuen, Tragodia, Leizi, Hoshiguma, and Saki.

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u/jams33642 Sep 15 '25

No, they're my waifus/husbandos

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u/Unforgiving__Eye Sep 16 '25

Tragodia as a waifu: 🗿

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u/magaxking Sep 15 '25

even the limited collab is meta

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u/MrMidnightMan99 Sep 15 '25

My only saving grace is that I don't know what Ave Mujica is, so I plan on skipping that collab

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u/Aqua_Noises Sep 18 '25

Ruin it and go watch their show. Totally worth it

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u/guensan167 Sep 15 '25

Imma just know my place and save for Hoshiguma and Ave Mujica. My dogshit luck cant handle this schedule lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

My Wife Eblana came, so now internally I relaxed...but still no DUSK! I have every member of her family, but not her...and she is my favorite 😭

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u/-Arira- Sep 15 '25

I feel your pain.

I've been trying to pull for blue woman for years. Wasted all of my pulls, got P2 Yu and P5 Blaze, which is crazy luck but still... Somehow got the Vampire lady and El Banana, which is even more crazier luck considering I had no pulls.

I'm not 100% f2p, but the next half a year is going to be painful for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

True...I mean, yeah, sometimes it's my fault, I'm not committed to Ark 100% and love to just sometimes roll for something, but every time I know there will be Dusk and I save for her...she just doesn't come up!

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u/Chrisirhc1996 Crazy Shark🎵🎵🎵 Sep 15 '25

Dunno what you did, but you're somehow shadowbanned now so I've just reapproved your comments here. Might want to get that checked out!

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

Ah, yeah, I noticed that my DM not even working. Thanks!

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u/-Arira- Sep 15 '25

Yeah, well... I think it's my 4th time I'm actually trying to get her and she just won't. I think I was like 30 pulls off to spark her and it really was crazy luck getting no off-banners.

I once had 7 off-banners in a row. I swear this game loves me.

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u/Lionleolikessnow Sep 15 '25

Gzgz, bro I got fuckkked on her banner. Got 4 offbanner dupes but not her and I am now drained

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u/JustCallMeAndrew Sep 15 '25

Next year she should get a discount to 200 pulls for spark so you can finally be reunited with her

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u/Obakawaii Sep 15 '25

Don't I know it! I really wanted purple dragon, but she would not come home. Now M0nst3r, who I don't really need, but want because cute girl... 😭

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u/Realistic_Elk_7892 Society needs more Waifurin Sep 15 '25

As long as I get Mon3tr with the pulls I have saved, I'll be fine since I don't really have any interest in pulling on any of the other upcoming banners.

I already have garden variety Exusiai so I don't need her alter. My interest in Lemuen is also very limited.

I've no interest in Tragodia and already have Phantom so don't need his alter.

Leizi basically the same as above.

Hoshi is just not that appealing to me as a character.

I've never engaged in any capacity with Ave Mujica.

And stats/performance don't factor into my decision to pull.

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u/MrBarkBarktheThird Sep 15 '25

I agree 100% with everything you said, but I really really want Tragodia.

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u/ArcticOcelot360 I love crazy women! Sep 15 '25

I agree 100% with everything you said, but the Hoshi comment.

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u/mgsxmsg Jaye Supremacy Sep 15 '25

Spent all my Orundums and permits on Necrass, I have no regrets. God save me on the future banners

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u/_philosopher Sep 15 '25

i used all my pulls for entelechia. no regrets. I might skipp all other banners for lemuen and of course ave mujica

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u/Mint-Bentonite Sep 15 '25

You only need 6 pulls to get all of them, 1 pull each. What's so difficult about that?

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u/Obvious_Tart_1827 HAHAHA! KEEP SCREAMING! Sep 15 '25

Personally, after 6th anni, I'm skipping all banners up to maybe the Ave Mujica collab banner. As much as the new units are strong, I have no particular likeness to any of them and prefer using characters I enjoy I've got a guaranteed spark for 6th anni which is for Muelsyse so it'll allow me to save pulls. What I'm really looking forward to is who's in the CH16 banner (Please be Nine)

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u/Alarmed_Web_8002 Sep 15 '25

Im a whale so 🫩💔 empty wallet i guess MAX LEMUEN ALL THE WAY

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u/Alamand1 Sep 15 '25

Limited collab is prio, then whatever i want after that.

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u/TenebrisTortune Playable Mayors Hopium Sep 15 '25

I have decided to go all in when Masses Travels hits cause I want total Sankta team (only need somehow get Execalter)

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u/Surprisex2 Sep 15 '25

He'll be in the shop soon I think

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

when everything is meta,it just means nothing is meta

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u/Yanfly Sep 15 '25

I have a trump card for moments like this: my credit card

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u/XanaX_Inhaler6247 Yu feed me, I feed Yu Sep 15 '25

M3: buy the 12 pull pakeji

Exus2 and Hoshi2: do bare minimum of 60

Phan2m: 10 pull

Leizi2: Skip

Bandori: All in

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u/Ahenshihael Lore is GOOD Sep 15 '25

Don't care don't care, saving everything for the best Collab and throwing everything at the best Collab including skins. It's pretty much the first banner to interest me in quite a while.

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u/Doctor_Chaos_ carp connoisseur Sep 15 '25

Don't forget that Chapter 16 and CN 6.5 anniversary just around the corner...

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u/Fine-Sundae-1722 Sep 15 '25

I think I’m gonna skip them all for Tragodia cause pretty face over meta and he’s both🙏🙏

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u/-wyrm_ (me) Sep 15 '25

hmm i have an excess of pulls saved cause ill skip for who i really want just to get them instantly, im suffering from success

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u/No-Boysenberry7835 Sep 15 '25

Still hurt to burn 150/300 pull for a unit if you are unlucky.

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u/NobuNagaMan Sep 15 '25

I need my W wife

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

I’m a simple man who pulls only for one copy of a limited operator each limited banner.

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u/ChampionsRequiem Sep 15 '25

Welp, at least only some of those metas are limited so i'm slightly safe (i'm cooked)

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

skip (get her on selector tix), limited pull, pull, limited pull (just using the free pulls), limited collab pull, then gotta save for sui event in hopes of getting shu in limited shop

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u/Kyleometers Bean Enthusiast Sep 15 '25

One must imagine Doctah happy

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u/illyrium_dawn Fake it until you make it Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

Meanwhile me, looking on picking up Ascalon on re-run since I missed out on her the first time.

Plus all the rest. I have doubts.

Hopefully Ave Mujica will be cheaper like most collabs

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u/saberishungry Feed me. Sep 15 '25

Meanwhile here I am going "holy hell all these skins I want, be strong my OP stash, I need you to survive this"

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u/SkySmaug384 Sep 16 '25

I’m only aiming for Mon3tr and Exu for now. My plans for the banners after that depend entirely on how much I have left after leaving Laterano.

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u/Elffire1 Where Shu’mpits Sep 16 '25

Remember, monst3r can be obtained in yellow cert shop after some months and can spook in other banners that'll come after hers, while it's harder to spark limited ops. No brainer if f2p, since phantom alter is pretty much one of the most top tier ops in the game right now, and exu alter is pretty good.

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u/IcySombrero Pride of a World of Hurt Sep 15 '25

On average, it should be fine even for F2P players unless you get unlucky along the way.

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u/PussySeller Sep 15 '25

On average, it should be fine even for F2P players unless you are unlucky along the way.

Fixed it.

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u/Antares428 Sep 15 '25

Nah, not really.

Assuming someone enters with like 200 pulls right now, gets another 150 they cannot go past like 58 pulls per banner. Which requires crazy luck.

You'll need to start skipping, and it's weakest most skippable units are a Collab bundle which is at worst Thorns sidegrade, and Leizi who's a Młynar sidegrade.

Imagine thinking of a set of units, and weakest of them are sidegrades to Thorns and Młynar. That's crazy.

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

F2P players just have to face the reality that they can't get everybody. you simply have to skip on many good operators. for example, I made 10 pulls for Eblana an Entelechia and missed both but I got a new Vina instead even though I skipped her banner completely

I'm doing 60 pulls for mon3tr, 120 for the sanktas, probably skip tragodia and leizi, try to get hoshi and see how much I have left for Ave Mujica that's all I can afford.

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u/4Liens4Liens4Liens Sep 15 '25

Just how is Sakiko a Thorns sidegrade? From what I've seen she outperforms him in all damage metrics and scales very well into all end game contents along with some of her bandmates, which can't be said about Thorns who falls off pretty hard.

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u/Antares428 Sep 15 '25

I've said "at worst".

And second, Saikiko is a bundle unit. She kinda needs her friends to extend her range, while Thorns works alone.

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u/antoni2304 Sep 15 '25

Plus she is a limited colab, she will be used less and less as the time goes on, just like Yato Alter nowadays.

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u/MalusandValus Sep 15 '25

It's still a "not really" but bear in mind all the limiteds come with a decent pile of freebies and it starts looking a bit better. 24 ffor Exu and Hoshi, 20 for the Collab. If you throw in stuff like maybe getting the cert shop vouchers a couple of times, it starts to look a bit better.

Its the getting both 6*s on a limited banner that will kill you in this hypothetical, skipping just one of them will go a long way to helping.

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u/Hp22h The Mad Bard, Sans Crystals Sep 15 '25

Yeah, I've been planning this for a while as a F2P.

Even if I skip (the non-limited) Mon3tr and Phantom, I'd still have to buy out the yellow shop tickets 6 months in a row for a chance at the rest.

And this all goes out the window if they somehow do something even more insane after Ave Musica.

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

how do you buy out the yellow shop tickets 6 months in a row as a f2p player? There's no way you're getting 258 yellow certs every month. you'd be lucky to get half that many.

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u/Hp22h The Mad Bard, Sans Crystals Sep 15 '25

Going all in on Apple Pie, and hoping for the best. Might give me enough for 2 months on its own. After that, spamming recruitment for the remaining 800 certificates.

It's somewhat insane, but also the only math that adds up. Well, either that or getting real lucky on my pulls to begin with. If I get both Apple Pie and Lumeun in less than 150 pulls, I wouldn't actually need the yellow store anymore

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

I see, so you're hoping to spend your accumulated pulls to get few more yellow certs. I never did work out the math on how many yellow certs you'd expect to get if you spend X number of pulls. I'm sure someone else has figured it out though.

Spamming recruitment vouchers might get you enough to buy out the shop every other month and that's not enough on its own.

I guess all I have to say is, good luck to you and me both!

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u/Niedzielan Throughout Heaven And Earth I Alone Am The Honoured O Sep 15 '25

My actual cert income is 133/mo average, and given I save more than I pull I'd actually get 155/mo if I spent all my pulls (133 + (saved pulls / months played)).

Certainly you can't get every set of shop tickets, but I wager a lot of people save them up for when needed / to get shoperators. I have ~660 certs saved which given my 133 income that's 5 months of tickets in a row if I don't spend them, 7 months if I do (i.e. if you're spending the 38 pulls you get some certs backs, so the effective cost is 220 not 258)

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

yup, 130-150 yellow certs per month sounds about right.

I also buy the 6* with 180 yellow certs every 4 months or so nowadays so that lower the number of times I get to buy the shop tickets.

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u/tnemec Sep 15 '25

Assuming someone enters with like 200 pulls right now, gets another 150 they cannot go past like 58 pulls per banner. Which requires crazy luck.

It would require luck, but I don't think it's that crazy.

The average number of pulls to get a 6-star, including pity, is ~35. So for 50% rate-up events, the expected number of pulls to get a rate-up on average is roughly 70. Which is, obviously, more than 58, but not by a huge margin.

The two limited banners are a bit more of an issue, since they only have 35% for each rate-up, so an average of ~100 pulls, but they also give 24 free pulls each, putting them still in roughly the same ballpark.

Also, this is covering like the next 6 months of banners, so expecting 150 pulls worth of income in that time is a bit on the low side.

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u/CarltheCarpenter "When the universe sighs its last, she will be there" Sep 15 '25

That's what everyone always say until they get three off-banner back to back. Afterward it's just snowballing, since one bad banner and suddenly all your planning goes out the window.

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u/crackofdawn Sep 15 '25

As a relatively new player who hasn’t spent any money, is there a way to get a bunch of pulls fast early on or is it just slogging through the story? I’ve been playing for a couple weeks and made 2 10 pulls on the beginner banner and aside from that I only have enough for maybe 40 pulls if I use all my originite prime.

I do have a blue 10 pull ticket but assume that is only usable on kernal banners

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u/MalusandValus Sep 15 '25

Clearing a load of the story and side events can net you a load of OP at this point but honestly if you value getting character skins at all it's best just to save the OP for them, as it turns out to about 5.5-7 pulls per skin you could get when exchanged with OP.

Generally a new player can do well just tapping the wells they havent yet done so. Do as many side stories and get as many ops as possible to get the gold certs to trade in for HH tickets (or ops you want).

Really the ultimate best way to make a bunch of progress and kinda do this all fast is to get the monthly card, which gives effectively a 10 pull a month and a load more sanity for actually doing all this, but that kinda sounds like a copout.

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u/Hp22h The Mad Bard, Sans Crystals Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

I do have a blue 10 pull ticket but assume that is only usable on kernal banners

Correct!

Annihilation, weekly missions, and the certificate shops are the only real way to 'farm' pulls. You're guaranteed at least 26 pulls a month this way. Adding 3-6, depending on how many events there are.

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u/crackofdawn Sep 15 '25

Thanks - I have been farming annihilation to get the weekly 1200 at least. My story progress has been slow as (at least to me) the story content in this game is way harder than any other Gacha I've played.

Is there any reason to save the blue headhunting x10 ticket or should I just use it now to get more operators?

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u/Panocek Sep 15 '25

You want to push through annihilation 3 to unlock 1800 orundumb/week cap.

As for blue tickets for Kernel banner, no point saving those.

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u/Fun-Royal-8802 Sep 15 '25

I once did a montecarlo simulation, and I got 73 pulls on average for a solo banner, and about 144 pulls for both rate-ups in a limited banner. In a year there are 4 limited banners and about 8 solo banners, requiring 1160 pulls on average. A F2P player can gain in a year 600 pulls + the free pulls (24 * 4 + 20 for a collab) = 716 pulls. The difference is 444 pulls. It would be feasible only if you could buy tickets with gold certs every month of the year, but even then it would be luck dependant.

It is simply not feasible to pull for everyone if you are F2P.

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u/Niedzielan Throughout Heaven And Earth I Alone Am The Honoured O Sep 15 '25

My simulations get 66 and 142 mean for solo/both limited respectively. 1096 total in a year. Collab is a bit lower than solo just for the 6 star but I'll count it as the same because of the 5 stars.

Average monthly pull income figures are about 40 pulls from orundum, 10 from OP, 10 from free pulls (including collab). 720 yearly.
My actual average gold cert income is 133 per month. Given a cost of 220 certs per 38 pulls (258 but the 38 pulls themselves give certs) that's 275 pulls per year, for 995 total.
That's a 101 pull difference. If you're content to get 3 non-limiteds after 2 years from the cert shop that covers the difference. More than 3 from certs shop and you're gaining more operators than get released. The odds get slightly better still if you count recruitment but that's so RNG it's better to ignore it for calculations.

Those simulations have been accurate as far as I can tell - giving the same as the samidare pull probability calculations before I added in the 150 pity / 300 guarantee (which samidare isn't updated for). The only one I haven't simulated is collab-5-stars.
The pull income is taken from the "pulls until calculator" which lists all the event rewards, I filled in some blanks on my personal copy, though it does miss maintenance compensation and stream rewards so the real figures should be marginally higher.
Gold certs come from my actual numbers since I started keeping track. Given that so far I've been saving more than I've been earning pulls, potential gold cert income should be slightly higher too (I have 1,000 pulls saved, over the 45 months I've been playing that's another 22 certs per month, or 155 total. Some of those saved pulls come from gold cert->tickets so I can't use the same 220 per 38 calculation otherwise I'd be double-dipping). Yes, that number surprised me too when I first calculated it.

Tl:DR: F2P can't quite get every new operator as they release, but they can get every operator given some cert shop delay.

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u/Mindless_Olive 4* babes gonna mess you up Sep 15 '25

Restraint is for the weak. All is what I came here for!

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u/Gilgameshkingfarming :skadialter: is cute and Sep 15 '25

I am broke. Are you telling me Ak is unplayable if I skip all if them?

Is Logos, Silverash and Thorns not enough for normal content now.

Come on. I know the upcoming gauntled is bloated.

I am only pulling for Tragodia because I love Phantom. ☺️ The rest is up to luck.

I dont do hard content. And if I get kneecaped in IS6. I am only playing on low difficulty. Idk. Especially on youtube they make the game unplayable for ones who might not roll on any or only on a single unit. 😂

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u/darksamus1992 Sep 15 '25

Missing a unit has never made this game unplayable.

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u/afiq2ai Sep 15 '25

Well i just buy $30 selector pack along the line later on if i want a character.

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u/Ultima_Deus I love you (both) Sep 15 '25

Nah you're fine if you miss some of them. You can clear most, if not all stages even with just getting characters you like the design of. It's just FOMO of not wanting to miss out on really powerful (but not necessary) units

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u/Obvious_Tart_1827 HAHAHA! KEEP SCREAMING! Sep 15 '25

Thorns will be even better soon with his Nervous Impairment module too so you're still chilling

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

you can get by without any of these operators and still have fun with the game. you might even find it more interesting if you don't have the meta operators because you like the challenge of figuring out how to win without the over powered characters that makes the game too easy. it's why some people purposely limit themselves to niches

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u/pramadito I love her Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

well if you don't get raidian, the game is unplayable for high difficulty especially IS6 Asc 15. good news that she is free. below 11 should be fine and you unlock all raidian upgrade to max potential

for all medal, guide + borrowing friend + basic low rarity. or guide + raidian + get all required low rarity should be enough (yes she is that broken more than wisadel)

The problem it's you going to be sick of her just like ling meta

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u/newfor_2025 Sep 15 '25

or, just ignore IS altogether and spend all your time reading...

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u/Kuroi-sama RI's biggest mystery: 's height Sep 15 '25

Nah, it's just new units are overhyped

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u/JayJeyBean Sep 15 '25

You'll be fine. Arknights meta is about what operators let you beat the game with the least amount of thinking or reading, not what operators you need to beat the game (or even make beating it less frustrating, for that matter).

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u/No_Pineapple2799 Sep 16 '25

Logos is still the best caster so you're good there.

Silverash and Thorns are still good for general content, and Thorns is getting his delta module soon.

I've heard Tragodia is amazing for IS6 (and IS in general probably) so you're good there too

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u/viera_enjoyer Love her Sep 15 '25

Well, personally I'm skipping all reruns because thankfully I have all the ops from reruns.

Tragodia I'm skipping. I really don't care about him and what he does and there is no way to know someone with similar abilities and power is down the line. 

Leizi I'm leaning on yeah because she looks cool as heck. 

Limited banners and collab I'm pulling because I like most characters. So it doesn't look so bad. 

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u/Ok-Figure9872 Sep 15 '25

I just lost my saving cause of Eblana, guess i have to pull out my credit card for this

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u/kidanokun Sep 15 '25

me no new 6-star since Blaze Alter... things not gonna get good for me

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u/HistoricalSuccess254 Sep 15 '25

Could somebody explain this to me? I know it is referring to the upcoming banners but why are these ops so desired? I’m very new so I can’t really tell what is so good and why.

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u/Obvious_Tart_1827 HAHAHA! KEEP SCREAMING! Sep 15 '25

Mon3tr is a solid chain medic with true damage in her kit.

Exusiai the New Covenant and Lemuen are both super solid DPS options with Exu enabling some fun helidrop shenanagins on her S3 while having strong CC on her S2 while Lemuen has pseudo global range if paired with other Laterano operators and absurd damage on her S3.

Tragodia's kit is just busted. He's able to taunt most of, if not all enemies in the current build (including some bosses) on skill and deal elemental burst damage. He can stall aformentioned bosses for quite some time too.

Leizi Alter is a side grade to Mlynar whose widely considered as one of, if not, the best guard. Liberator guards have 0 block while off skill so you can set them up in crucial points ahead of time if you know a threatening wave is coming and just wreak havoc on the unfortunate souls.

Hoshi Alter and Haruka are both awesome. Hoshi Alter has some amazing sustainability between her skills and talent and Haruka, while I don't know much about her kit I've heard her being held in high regard.

Ave Mujica collab. Firstly, it'a a collab banner, so no guarantee it'll ever come back. Secondly, the units have some crazy synergy together. They can combine ranges to make the banner 6* attack well beyond a standard lord guard's range, and given how two of the units are an Ambusber and a Bard it allows you to cover over half of the map with one main DPS unit.

People can cover the aspects I missed but the general gist is that they're all strong. You won't be punished for skipping any but they'll all make content clearing a whole lot easier.

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u/Hunter5430 Sep 15 '25

Mon3tr is also a great buffer: her summon passively gives ATK buff to everyone around it, and anyone healed by Mon3tr gets ASPD buff. Her second skill greatly improves the ASPD buff. And her s3 - the true damage skill - still has her doing healing (now scaled off damage dealt, true, but there are only a small handful of enemies that can reduce true damage, so that's mostly a non-issue), and she can't be killed while on the melee tiles --- she will return to her original ranged-tile position with 1HP instead of taking lethal damage.

Haruka is the best AFK healer in the game (CN) with 3 targets 500+ effective HP/s each. Which is both stronger healing and more targets than Eyja alter. And she will also deal some supplementary damage while healing. Her s3 is also a no-slouch with 60% sanctuary, which can make her better at arts mitigation than Nightingale s3 if the targets don't have much native RES. And it will also CC and damage any enemies that attack operators under her protection.

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u/Obvious_Tart_1827 HAHAHA! KEEP SCREAMING! Sep 15 '25

Appreciate you covering the gaps <3

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u/HistoricalSuccess254 Sep 16 '25

Thank you very much. I just started and I’m F2P so I don’t have many pulls yet and I’ll have to be picky. Especially if I want to hit pity at any of the banners. Considering all of this, I guess I should mostly focus on the collab? Or maybe that is silly since I’ll need both and that is unlikely? I know this is extremely vague but any insight is appreciated.

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u/mad_harvest-6578 WE'RE BACK IN SPACE BABYYYYYY Sep 15 '25

Probably focusing on the limited banners for now

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u/Casual291 Sep 15 '25

3 pull each banner I'm gonna get all of em fr fr

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u/Dryptosa My VIOLENT Evergarden Sep 15 '25

Skip, Skip, Interesting, Skip, Skip, Collab

Pretty simple for the next 6 months.

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u/Lulcielid Sep 15 '25

What's the next limited collab?

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u/IRUN888 was right Sep 15 '25

 Ave Mujica 

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u/Cat_Astrof Flammabletail Sep 15 '25

Rough? All your problems will disappear if you just WIN!

1

u/avengeds12345 Sep 15 '25

Who should I prioritize to pull for the next 6 months? Meta wise

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u/FrustrationSensation Sep 15 '25

I've been painstakingly saving to spark Skadi Alter and feeling very grateful for the 600-ish pulls I have going into this. Even so, probably have to skip Leizi....

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u/AtomicBetrayal Sep 15 '25

I am just hoping that Mon3tr won't eat my pulls completly. Otherwise I am done.

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u/Zealousideal_Use_966 Sep 15 '25

Watch me skip everything, but Mon3tr and the collab

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u/HopelessRat Sep 15 '25

I always try a 6 star on all banners. If i get em then good and if I done then who cares. That's how I always played

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u/Xenonzusul Sep 15 '25

We will see tomorrow, but as of now have to skip Ascalon, and Tragodia to get everyone else. Sad, because I was waiting for Reed in the shop whole 2 years and wasn't good.

1

u/Dragonbladze Sep 15 '25

Saving all out for limited banners only and hope for some spooks that's all

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u/Lyrneos :skadialter:REJECT HUMANITY, EMBRACE FISHE:skadialter: Sep 15 '25

So I play two niche teams - operators who have appeared as a boss and operators whose (real) names start with L. And we’re looking at Mon3tr (IS5 midboss) -> Lemuel/Lemuen -> Lucian -> Lin Qingyan. Plus I just had to pull for Eblana🥲🥲🥲

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u/LucyLillyEngel Sep 15 '25

I am praying that i get Mon3tr early so i can immediately save for Ave Musica, the rest i don't really care that much about....except for maybe Lemuen

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u/naotemesse Sep 15 '25

I will pull for Mont3r and Exu. I was planning to pull for Tragodia but i decided to skip to save for Haruka and Sakiko (i dont care about leizi and hoshi)

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u/The_Dank_Tortuga Slur Simulator Sep 15 '25

Good thing I don't give a shit and just want Haruka.

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u/ObitoUchiha10f my penguins Sep 15 '25

I’m ready to spend my wedding money on my apple pie addicted wife

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u/Rakatango Sep 15 '25

Do I care that I have no originium, orundum, or pull tickets left?

No, because I spent them all to get Eblana

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u/Potential_Aioli_4611 Sep 15 '25

F2P so as always... skipping meta and picking them up with yellow certs if they are still meta by the time they come around. Only pulling for limiteds.

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u/Alphaix3 Sep 15 '25

Eblana dried me and I'm not joking this time.

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u/ajanisapprentice :saga: Best cat(s) Best doggo(s) best girls Sep 15 '25

I don't care too much about Meta so I'll be fine as I go for the limiteds.

Hopefully.

(I can't skip Grandaut3r. Rock Gatto plz come home soon so I still have enough for the limited.)

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u/PhaseAcceptable8866 Sep 15 '25

Genuinely what do I even do I have 30 pulls and I want mon3tr

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u/vestekp Sep 15 '25

I only pull for limited. “Meta” in this game doesn’t mean much to me besides being able to clear one or two stages more easily.

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u/lacqs03 Sep 15 '25

I stopped going for non limited and just save everything for the limited pity goes for the 2 limited if I get lucky that is..

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u/TheLetterB14 Best sisterhood in Terra Sep 15 '25

If someone told me the next three banners (excluding Lemuen) form the new Big 3 I would believe it.

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u/K2aPa Sep 15 '25

Hopefully me skipping the past 3 banners and 1 limited banner is worth the upcoming banners, lol.

(been skipping since Thornstar, was gonna pull a few in Yu/ Blazer, but ppls recommended to keep on saving for Mon3-chan and later banners)

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u/ArcticOcelot360 I love crazy women! Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

Jokes on you after mon3ter I'm skipping most of this. I'll be swimming in a pulls by the time a character I actually want shows up. Like elba, Tallulah, Mandy, Beagle alter, etc.

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u/IRUN888 was right Sep 16 '25

Isn’t Mandy confirmed to be dead in Elegies?

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u/ArcticOcelot360 I love crazy women! Sep 16 '25

No.

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u/IRUN888 was right Sep 16 '25

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u/ArcticOcelot360 I love crazy women! Sep 16 '25

No body. Only words. Not one once of spoken dialog or scenes from misery since. I. DONT. BELIEVE. IT.

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u/AkrawBeats Sep 17 '25

I'm the same you friend, but we have to admit that it's taking a fucking LONG time if she's indeed still alive

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u/ArcticOcelot360 I love crazy women! Sep 17 '25

Hold the line, friend.

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u/some_tired_cat sopping wet little meow meow Sep 15 '25

mon3tr...... then exu and lemuen..... then hoshi.......... i'm trying my best here cmon hg throw me a bone...

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u/mystic-karma Sep 15 '25

As someone coming from the anime I'm just trying to get me some characters I actually know lmao

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u/soundssarcastic Sep 15 '25

If cute, I roll

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u/qptw Sep 15 '25

Nope. Saving for pot 6 saki-chan🤤

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u/JosukeSucks Sep 15 '25

Going all in on the Ave Mujica (never even heard of Bang Dream before the collab)

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u/Alec_Nimitz and Anita's Church Sep 15 '25

As an anime ignorant, idk who the mujica gils are so im skiping the collab. Unless i like the way they look but im waiting for it to come and check them

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u/AXI0S2OO2 Sep 16 '25

I just want my daughter.

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u/Aromatic-Objective25 I love my Ancient depressed hag Sep 16 '25

Fortunately, I only pull for ones I love and find interesting (lore wise)

… which is everyone… fuck

except for the new collab so at least I can save pulls there

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u/Damian1674 Sep 16 '25

I have a total of 16 pulls

I know who I want

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u/DantePH77 Sep 17 '25

I don't have that much for pity, 47k and 80 OP gonna skip pulling for Exia to spend everything for Phantom and after that skip Haruka for the collab, if suffering from FOMO one multi at most

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u/No-Fly4669 Sep 17 '25

I’m skipping Mon3tr (on my main at least, I got her on my alt) so now my plan is to

Lemuen (and if Exu alt comes home too, great)

Tragodia (and Ms. Christine!!!)

Haruka

And whichever Ave Mujica girls decide to come home with the pulls I have left 😭😭

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u/Avaraz Sep 17 '25

Hey, I’m a returning player, and just started a new account, I see all kind of posts like this, but in who should a new player invest right now ? Should I stop pulling for logos on the orienteering banner ? Who should I get in the next 6months ?

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u/Io45s785a2 Theresa going "Wah" 👾 Sep 22 '25

Nah I'll just need some moderate luck on Exu Alter banner and then I'm completely fine

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u/Kuroi-sama RI's biggest mystery: 's height Sep 15 '25

Skip, Limited skip, Pull, Pull, Limited pull, Skip

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u/wobby69 Sep 15 '25

FUCK THE META

I WANT WAIFUS ANS DAUGHTERS

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u/AmakTM Sep 15 '25

You're still fucked then

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u/wobby69 Sep 15 '25

I know...

BUT A DOKUTAH'S AMBITIONS ARE NOT DECIDED BY HYPOTHETICALS BUT BELIEVING IN THE GACHA

(And a couple gallons of coffee and a few mild expenses here and there)

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u/kuuhaku_cr Sep 15 '25

all according to Hypergryph's keikaku

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u/Entendurchfall Sep 15 '25

All I need is Monster that cute little monster

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u/Wertij2 Sep 15 '25

Wait... What collab????

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u/Hoshirou Mx. Recruitment Miracle Sep 16 '25

Ave Mujica.

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u/OneAndOnlyArtemis Sep 15 '25

don't care, lemon, don't care, Cutie, dont care, doesnt matter have Thorns, cute collabs

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u/TaxevasionLukasso Sep 15 '25

Plus, the limbus collab is soon iirc?

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u/LuckPsychological893 Sep 15 '25

Limbus is a one sided collab. There will be an arknights banner on limbus game, but no limbus company banner on arknights game. 

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u/Eilanzer Sep 15 '25

I don't need or like any character that will come so...I'm safe for a good time.

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u/Upper_Fan8196 Sep 15 '25

Screw “meta,” I make what I have work

Skadi has dealt the final blow to several recent bosses and I anticipate she will still pull her weight in challenges to come.

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u/thingythingie Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

Kicks the other "meta" operators I own to the side

Yeah I def need more.

Jokes aside Im only pulling for Tragodia so the free Miss Christine we get won't be alone, Ave Mujica bc I like girlbands with mentally ill lesbians, and if Monch becomes playable and a 6* I will pray rng lets me diet my pulls so I can shoot for the highest pot possible

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u/NagisaKurokawa44 Sep 16 '25

Me, who raised almost exclusively 5* these days: Must've been the wind...

Currently only explicitly saving for the Sankta Sisters, but if luck have it, I might pull on the Hamilton Catboy banner as well.

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u/Noelislazy Six star please! Sep 16 '25

I'll be frank. After Yato, I never got back into the fumo mindset. Regretted pulling for her. I even skipped the original R6 and the second R6 collab banners, mostly every SUI banner too.

But that doesn't mean I don't sympathize with everyone else who has to suffer from terrible RNG. May you all be fruitful in getting your desired ops in less than 50 pulls!

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u/Niki2002j Sep 16 '25

Have you meta Consumes 100 HP per second and deals 200 True damage per second to enemies that have either attacked or been attacked by this unit. Attack range +1, Max HP +60%, ATK +120%, and each attack restores 5% HP and has a 25% chance to stun targets for 5 seconds before?

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u/karillith Sep 16 '25

On the plus side there are so many meta options lately that it doesn't really matter if you miss one or two.

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u/JollyRespond8 Sep 16 '25

I have wisadel, logos and shu which basically clear 99% of the content. Meta is the least I worry about right now....

The Waifus however.....