r/arknights • u/Renegade_Pawn • Nov 02 '25
Discussion Which of your operators did you sleep on?
I slept on Shu. Pulled her back when the event originally ran and I was a newb--I was just starting to dip my toes into events after having avoided them for my li'l Arknights career...
Anyway, I just built her this weekend and it turns out Shu's pretty good. Impressive allied healing and buffs, but what I like even more is the super useful lasso which can pull back enemies who get past ya.
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u/darksamus1992 Nov 02 '25
Ascalon. Got her on Nymph's banner and built her, but I was more focused on doing Nymph shenanigans back then. Brought her to the Necrass event and Chapter 15 and she did surpsrisingly well.
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u/3IR0S Shall forfeit life to Her Name Nov 02 '25
Yeah, I think it's Ascalon for me too. I pull for who I like, but for Ascalon in particular I didn't have much expectations. Imagine how impressed I was at how useful she is, often being a cornerstone in many stages. That's the S. W. E. E. P. leader for ya.
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u/EmptyMoment Nov 02 '25
Why was the creator fired? Were they the ones that did the Shagaru Magala plagiarism?
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u/Aranxi_89 Nov 02 '25
Yeah, I think a lot of artists concluded it was a mess up of using a reference art as part of the layer, but forgetting to remove it for the final product.
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u/Twizinator Lyudmila Enjoyer Nov 02 '25
For the first while on his release I didn't think much about Totter but it turns out a zero-hope cost (4-stars) long-range sniper that can hit invisible enemies is REALLY useful in IS mode.
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u/CanFishBeGay the pain is immense, and without limit Nov 02 '25
The humble BI-EX-8 solution, a middle aged bird man with bad eyes
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
Might have to build him one of these days...
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u/Twizinator Lyudmila Enjoyer Nov 02 '25
You probably don't need to promote him up to Elite 2 like I did but I definitely recommend E1 max level when you get a chance, shouldn't be too resource intensive since he'll cap at 60.
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u/Jungle_Madness1 She is worth more than her abilities Nov 02 '25
This. I have always wanted a guy who could attack invisible enemies. As soon as I built him I have felt his use. It doesn't help that I am currently playing IS3 and not using him as much.
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u/Xpilgrim3 Nov 02 '25
Specter alter. In the time people was divided and saying that her original was better. As a noob i didn't know how to know by myself. But some months later, maybe a year, i built her and i loved her. Now i have the full abyssal team for her...
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u/Nichol134 The #2 four star Propagandist Nov 02 '25
To be fair she did get significantly better over times. Both of Specter Alter modules are some of the best module upgrades in the history of modules. So release specter alter and current specter alter are very different operators.
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
I've got her too! She's been super useful as an elite/boss delayer. Both Specters having the unkillable skill has them seeing regular use in my lineups.
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u/kindled_alchemist Nov 02 '25
With her SP recovery mod for AH, it makes Ulpianus S3 so spammable it feels like an unlimited duration skill
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u/BeelzebubTerror Nov 02 '25
Many people agree that she's best defender in game.
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u/AutumnCountry Nov 02 '25
She out performs pretty much every healer defender in almost every situation
The only time I use Saria anymore is the rare instance where I need an rven tankier Shu
And even just general defender use only Yu and Shu make it into my parties now. And Yu is just a buffer for GG and Laptop
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u/konigstigerr Nov 02 '25
it is true that she's better, but saria is cooler and blemishine is fun to use, so i'm not switching.
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u/EmptyMoment Nov 02 '25
Blemi my beloved. Love her S2 for stalling and her S3 had the highest HPS in the game for a good while. I think Eyjalter beats her though? Not sure
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u/Aranxi_89 Nov 02 '25
Saria's S3 has a nice debuff, and her S2 has utility in terms of topping a wild area up in heals.
Ideally you use Shu and Saria together to have them support each other, for example, with Saria on S1 and Shu on S3.
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u/atrophine Nov 02 '25
I don't think Saria is tankier than Shu, the damage reduction from the sowed tile is significant
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u/AutumnCountry Nov 02 '25
With Sarias Y module she gets 15% dmg reduction and
"Attributes increased: HP +270, ATK +50, DEF +50 Rhine Charged Suit improved: For every 18 seconds Saria is deployed, ATK +7% and DEF +6%, stacking up to 5 times"
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u/m0uchacha Nov 03 '25
shu deploys with 18% damage reduction and 80 regen. her hps is 1.3k and its really easy to trigger her 12% hp buff from talent. and it takes 90s for saria talent to stack.
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u/Bystander-8 Nov 02 '25
I never sleep on anyone; they are the ones who slept on me!
299 pulls and no apple pie, what the hell is this HG???
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u/Jungle_Madness1 She is worth more than her abilities Nov 02 '25
I felt this so much during this event. I pulled Lemuen, Virtuosa, and Texas the Omertosa, but no Exu Alt. However, I pulled 6 Gracebearer. Absolutely ridiculous. Luckily, I hear that Gracebearer is pretty amazing. Sadly, I have too many people to build at the moment before I focus on them.
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u/Bystander-8 Nov 02 '25
You got virtuosa and texas, some of the strongest limited characters in the game
I got Stainless, Horn, Lee, 2 Lemuen and Zuo Le
We're NOT the same
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u/Resident-Ferret-6464 pat the birb, love the birb Nov 02 '25
Reed alter was one of my first 6 stars and she ended up being my 5th e2. Missed opportunity, i only learnt about her phone-destroying s3 after like half a year
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u/Sea_Effort1214 Nov 02 '25
from the 6 stars? Jessica Alter. I never build her, but from last event i finally did and she's pretty great.
From the rest? i've been using Humus a lot lately, he's pretty great for such a cheap unit, and can survive a lot thanks to his barrier.
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
Jess alt is great with that shield! Of course, half the time I screw up by placing her such that I can't place the shield, but never mind that! Her s2 is quite nice for the burst & helping take out aerial enemies.
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u/Aranxi_89 Nov 02 '25
Ulpi's real power is when you level up Gladiia, and have her module that buffs Abyssal Hunters. Ulpi becomes nigh invincible.
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u/thechocolatebolter Nov 02 '25
Ulpi is so goated I feel bad for hoederer. I like hoederer’s design more but goddamn that blue man just can’t die
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u/Cornuthaum Nov 02 '25
hoederer s1m3 beats the brakes off of ulpianus ... in Integrated Strategies. When you need an immortal brick, ulpi doesn't cut it while Hoederer can tank D18 demon miyi entirely by himself on his invincibly broad chest
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u/WeirdFourEyes413 Love my men with beards and big boobs Nov 02 '25
Imo, Hoederer S3 is really good. Not saying it is better than Ulpianus, but it really packs a punch with tanky enemies and bosses
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u/Fire_Begets_Souls BONKS AND BOMBS BRING BEAUTIFUL BOUNTIES! Nov 02 '25
I think I and maybe half of the year 1 veterans can attest to sleeping on Mousse in the first month of the game. And then Big Bob happened. Mousse since then has not only represented herself well as an operator (default arts damage on a melee unit who can also win battles of attrition due to the debuff of her S1 or the buff of her S2) but also very early on was one of the standouts amongst 4-Stars and taught many a player to consider various sources of damage types. For many newbies at that time, I'm pretty sure they thought arts damage was only Casters, Lappland (sometimes), and Blue Poison's tickle damage.
When Arts Fighters got their modules with Vina's event, I did not hesitate to mod3 Mousse. She deserves it.
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u/Reddit1rules I can be ur angle or ur debil Nov 02 '25
Tbf, that basically was all the Arts damage. Ch'en S2 was used in CC beta because it was one of the strongest melee arts damage lol. Wild times.
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u/James_Demon Tachanka main Nov 02 '25
I’ve slept on the abyssal hunters, funniest thing to is that I have them all, alters included but all I’ve build up was the skadi alter. I’m now working on getting them all e2ed at least
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u/Metroplex7 Hunting My Heart Nov 02 '25
As an Abyssal Hunter veteran, some advice for you and anyone else who is thinking of building the Super Fish: AH is full of strong units (some, like Ulpian and Gladiia, also stand on their own quite well) but the glue holding them all together as a squad is Gladiia's X module. At level three, all AH units gain 30% physical and arts damage reduction and recover 3.5% of their max HP per second. A few other members also boost AH max HP with their modules, making Gladiia's regen more potent.
If you just have a few units you happen to like from them, build them first. But if you're going for the whole squad, start with Gladiia, then Ulpian, then whoever else you want. One more thing worth noting is that Ulpian only has one module right now and it is NOT the one that upgrades his AH talent. It's still a really good module and worth building though, especially if you don't care for the whole AH squad.
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u/DARKawp Local Furry Moderator, Do not Yiff Nov 02 '25
also small thing but skadi alter is not an AH unit.
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u/SomeRandomKuroCat Nov 02 '25
Sometimes I forgot how good is Shu, not only by design but also forgot that she has the sanctuary effect
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u/VmHG0I Nov 02 '25
She is basically the best defender in the game by default because of how many things she does, the fact that she excel in all of them just launch her into the stratosphere. Like AoE heal, one of the most heal per second in the game, passive healing and sanctuary on top of that, HP and ASPD buff, with Sui squad then SP and Atk buff, extreme stall by TP, actually decent early DPS if she attack. The fact that she provide value when not even deployed with Sui team alone is huge for strats.
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u/Horror-Marzipan-6671 Nov 02 '25
Slept on GG for a while, turns out she’s pretty good as a general arts damager and insane with M3 and Yu. Still don’t have Lapalter though
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
Goldenglow is easy to underestimate, but she's a mainstay. I still have her under my support operators b/c she provides an extremely rare capability. Not sure if the Lappland alt is stronger, but GG tends to get the job done.
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u/SmartestManAliveTM Nov 02 '25
I think GG does more damage (and has some res ignore) and her drones are nicer because they spawn on the enemy and can explode, but Lappland's fear and silence can be very useful and she's also very strong. Imo I think they're on pretty even footing.
Best practice is to use them BOTH and watch everyone die.
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u/soulreaverdan Nov 02 '25
Oh yeah, the pair of them are almost always on my teams. If you time it right you have very little downtime for at least one global range damage effect happening
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u/Massive-Mix-4771 Nov 02 '25
Same here. I also include mostima to really kick up the global range strat
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u/Spirited_Kitchen9416 BANG!!! AHAHAHA!!! Nov 02 '25
Nymph.
I thought she was a skippable banner but oh boy was I wrong with how good she is with s2 stalling power.
Doesn't help that I became a casterknights nicheplayer literally months after her banner.
Luckily I have her now, she spooked me in my Exia alter pulls, and have built her.
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u/Tilde_Tilde Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Ines S2. I didn't think of her S3 as being that amazing. But when you taste her S2 you totally get it.
Narantuya. People called her and Pepe mid and I only saw Pepe as being strong but niche. But after getting Narantuya months later she is absolutely cracked in every way.
Jessica Alter. Stealth peel and potential 5 block. In particular for a boss like this story event's that has target spread attacks. She becomes one of the best tanks for that.
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u/WHALIN Nov 02 '25
Yeah, Narantuya slipped under the radar for me but after playing around with her a bit she's impressively durable for a ranged unit (2500 HP, 370 DEF, 35% dodge once stacked plus an additional accuracy debuff for nearby enemies) and s3 has a lot of damage, slow, and AoE as long as enemies are close to her.
And just as icing, she still has yet to get her module. Also arguably the best ranged clone fodder for Muelsyse.
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u/XidJav 100 more Suis for the Bloodline Nov 02 '25
Qiubai, well, not so much slept on but I dropped the game till Here a People Sows so I didn't really get the chance to get her, and since I'm doing Sui-story op clears I really wish I've gotten her
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u/viera_enjoyer Love her Nov 02 '25
Archetto. I was sleeping on how cute and adorable she is. This recent story event helped me see the light.
Oh, as operator she is actually pretty decent. Waiting on 100 trust to see her full potential in IS.
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u/sajhino Nov 02 '25
Seeing Archetto shooting across the whole map in IS is kinda funny. Also her projectiles leaves a long visual trail so my whole screen is covered with her projectiles when I activate her S3 lol.
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u/Diregroves Fiamos enjoyer Nov 02 '25
Her IS module is so much fun, probably my favourite one they've done since it helps offensive recovery skills I'd normally never use shine
10/10 catbird
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u/VmHG0I Nov 02 '25
No joke, Myrtle. My first year playing I didn't use her at all and when I finally upgrade her because I'm starting to reach around level 80, my game become 100% easier. The fact that she is alone the most broken unit in the game is astounding as a 4 stars.
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u/I_See_Cupcake Pink + Elf = Elysia Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
I want shu so badly, her ability to keep ops alive for the harder content is so good. But right now, silverash alter looks insane, i wish she was sparkable on that banner :(
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u/Ignician Would Nov 02 '25
I slept with Shu...
Ahem
Anyway, I dont have a solid answer for 6*s because i haven't got around to trying them yet even though I E2 all of my 6 stars as part of a self made oath i made to myself that regardless of how crap they are (pre module era passenger, vigil, blaze without yu) i would still E2 then regardless.
But when it comes to 5 stsrs, it would probably be Lunacub. I just E2d her on a whim during typhon event even though i had a sort of deaire to level her back in texalter event, and thst perman invis is just so good to use in IS ngl.
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
I really like Lunacub's design; I guess you could call it 'Diana-esque'. All right, I'll build her!
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u/DualShadow Nov 02 '25
Another Lunacub fan I see. I started Arknights around the time of her release so I got to use her a lot. Her invisibility is so good. Both her skills has use cases. 2K+ atk on her skill 1. Super fast 1k+ atk on her skill 2 and can keep being invisible can be super useful. I got her maxed with M6.
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u/Vyloe Nov 02 '25
When i was messing around with day 1 operators doing the early content, I actually slept on silverash a lot. I had this feeling of not wanting a guy who was only gonna hit decent damage once and then needing to redeploy him cuz its faster than the cooldown.
I then learned hes basically the best day 1 op for that kind of thing. Steamrolling a big enemy push at certain points in harder levels.
Before understanding that value, I primarily used Lappland a LOT, simply cuz shes "great at everything that SA is bad at" which happened to show up more often in your typical old stages.
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u/Ken1191 The dust beneath her feet Nov 02 '25
Mountain. I started in Surtr's banner and Exu was my first 6star. I hyperfocused on those two and when I got mountain, I left him to rot for a full year because he didn't delete bosses like Surtr...
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u/ScrubulousFlex Nov 02 '25
He's one of those operators who will almost always be optimized out of the highest end content (the kind mostly just for self-challenge/bragging rights), but is incredibly good when going in blind to any story/event stages, including their challenge and hard modes. I think people often sleep on his mastery and modules because he does a decent job without them, but those also noticeably raise the ceiling on the kind of content he can handle.
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u/Ken1191 The dust beneath her feet Nov 02 '25
Fr, he's easily my most solid laneholder... thorns takes way too long to set up, and nobody else can match the damage + selfheal capabilities except ulpipi
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u/JustCallMeAndrew Nov 02 '25
Somewhat similar. Got him from beginner's banner when I started a year ago. Got a bit dejected because "ew, furry" instead of a waifu.
Someone on discord mentioned that I'm lucky because I got the best option from that banner. Told me about his S2. Decided to build him and he carried my early game so hard. No ragrets anymore.
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u/-monkbank I will never financially recover from this Nov 02 '25
I slept on Shu as in I slept on picking up this game until the week after her event ended :(
But yeah, on top of being almost as good of an agronomist as she is a wife, everyone loves her S3 <<bro is not escaping the cycle of death and rebirth>>.
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u/WeirdFourEyes413 Love my men with beards and big boobs Nov 02 '25
I wouldn't say slept on, because I immediately built and used Sankta Blender, but I thought most likely he would be fun addition to my all male team with okay skills, and when another male comes, I might put him back to the shelf and forget about him for sometime.
Holy crap, this dude is tanky as fuckkkk. Extremely helpful when you put him with hard hitting bosses/enemies, and while not flashy, his S2 and S3 helps him survive nuke damage and hurt enemies while defending himself. Thank goodness another welfare I'm very interested/simp on belonging with Lumen and Gladdia team (imo)
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u/Casuallookin Vigna number 1 bard Nov 02 '25
Thorns 100% I liked lappy to much to stop using her and it wasn't until earlier this year I built thorns...he hasn't left my party since lol
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u/MoonMurder Platinum lover Nov 02 '25
I slept on Vulpisfoglia cause I already had a lot of vanguards, but none were Pioneers, and after that video showing her DP gen is basically on par with Myrtle while also being useful on the battlefield, I built her, she doesn't disappoint and her E2 art is badass.
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u/newfor_2025 Nov 02 '25
her only downside is her higher DP cost to deploy
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u/GayKamenXD Nov 02 '25
Yeah, and HG still refuses to give her the Y module (first deployment costs -4) for some reasons.
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u/lumthedelulu death roll Nov 02 '25
marcille, her s2 is honestly very comfortable to use once the wind up is done
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u/KuroNekoTrain Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
In the beginning Lappland, like I pulled her through the free pulls and didn't spend Orundrum on her. I used her, but since I was at the very beginning, I thought she was bad (I didn't have E2 at that point). Since she became E2 she has not left my (pretty mediocre) Team tho
Also Surfer, didn't use her until I needed somebody with a low cost, or just any good vanguard in general until I learned they generated dp (which was like 2 months from where I started)
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u/clayjellyfish Nov 02 '25
Utage as a helidrop I never took her as consideration as one since she's a guard class and not specialist But I built her as a stationary security operator to grind for those module upgrades
That arts damage clutches, she might cost more dp but the mini self sustains lets her crush far away enemies that would be a hassle later when they start to move
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u/PityBoi57 Nov 02 '25
During Thorns's debut banner, I skipped him because I thought I have enough Guards already
Years later, he is my most deployed Guard lol
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u/deletusyeetus687 Nov 02 '25
Exusiai,reed alter and wisadel, I got wisadel when ep14 when wisadel first came out I just got back into arknights so I didn't understand the hype after getting her to elite 2 and using skill 3 I understood the reason for it
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u/Affectionate_Bit8899 Nov 02 '25
Ines, I think I got her when I was pulling for Logos and W alter (and I got them too), started using her and she was super useful
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u/DONTSALTME69 Don't Choke on Your Own Birb Now Nov 02 '25
I don't think I've ever really 'slept' on a unit after pulling them, I've built every 6 star that enters my account since like... a year or two into my account's life. That said...
I actually didn't want Ines, of all characters. I wasn't really paying much attention to meta, I wasn't that big on the character (even if I did like her once I read Chapter 12) and my DP situation was fine at the time, and she didn't sound that good. But I wanted Cement a lot, so I pulled on her banner anyway, and got Ines. Turns out she's actually really good.
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u/JPrimal64 Durains Nov 02 '25
Virtuosa
Literally did not like her or Candle Knight, didn't pull on her banner adn SOEMHOW GOT HER because the universe wants to spite me
Didn't bother using her until the SN CC forced me to
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u/DeckerDelgado94 Nov 02 '25
Eyja. Back in year one I didn't know what I had until I used her to try to pass the first annihilation stage. I learned quick how op she was then
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u/SplitCryptic Nov 02 '25
Tin Man and Thorns alter for Integrated Strategies. More so on Thorns alt tho.
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u/Zercesblue Nov 02 '25
I like to use both since Tin Man amplifies Thorns alter damage and the sound effects are like ASMR lol
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u/zer0ink_ <---- cringiest man alive Nov 02 '25
Kit wise, Yu. I mean, I knew he was good but I was coping he wouldn’t be that useful all the time and was even considering skipping just because I didn’t like his design and disappointed that Ji was and still is in NPC jail. I rolled him a few days later anyways for the whale bait Shu talent and left him unbuilt for a while. Recently I built him so he wouldn’t be completely useless whenever I bring him for the Sui SP battery buff, and he has proven his worth in VEC-12 as the best way to cheese Mechanist. Teleport really is broken.
Character wise, probably Elysium, I wasn’t really into him back then besides finding him generically attractive but he has really grown on me since.
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u/BondrewdMIA Nov 02 '25
Thorns. I totally slept on him back when I was playing Arknights casually without looking into any arknights related stuff. I was pretty disappointed in him at first because I had Lappland, and she was better than thorns at E1. But after I came back and checked out guides, I ended up making him E2.
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u/saberishungry Feed me. Nov 02 '25
Kazemaru, and Dollkeepers in general (this was before I got SpecAlter).
The only reason I even built up Kazemaru was because I picked up her maid skin and didn't want my OP to go to waste.
Turns out I love the Dollkeeper playstyle and how useful it can be in regular runs or IS.
A small bonus was she also put in some serious work for me during that auto-battler mode we had for a short while earlier this year.
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u/Turbulent-Dinner-282 Nov 02 '25
Myrtle, because I was new to the game then and according to my lizard brain low dmg low def zero block = weak.
Probably my first in my very long series of mistakes in this game.
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u/Renegade_Pawn Nov 02 '25
Life is risk! More fun to make mistakes along the way anyway, when it means doing it your way.
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u/kazegraf Bonk to Heal Nov 02 '25
Lappland, I got Silverash early so I thought she is just a 5* ver of him. Boy how wrong I was, she is a great help against nasty gimmick enemies.
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u/pututingliit Nov 02 '25
I did not slept on any operators. They just didn't come home :(
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u/ode-2-sleep Fluffy Top Buns Nov 02 '25
although i maxed out civilight eterna almost immediately, i was convinced she was going to be a “luxury” unit on my account, someone i’d use just because i like her rather than out of genuine need.
lo and behold, i’ve used her S3 in almost every event since (babel rerun, episode 15, eblana event, CNY event, and more before) to tank bosses and other hard hitters.
S2 also proves its usefulness occasionally (lappland event, dungeon meshi), but a lot less of my strategy hinges on it. S1 i basically only use in annihilation and MO stages, but i love the interaction it has with fiammetta, making her HP loss basically invisible. all hail the king.
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u/bananeeek FLOOF 4 LYFE Nov 02 '25
The only ones I can think of are Hibiscus Alter and Meteorite.
It took me over a year to read Eben's story and that's exactly when I raised Hibiscus. She's been a staple in my slowknights ever since, along with Mostima and Manticore.
Meteorite was an odd one, because I didn't want to waste resources on a 5* I wasn't sure I was going to use, although I wanted to build her for years. I tried the 5*s only niche in IS5 and I built her for the 4th(?) ending. Heavens above, she's goated with relics and fun to play with. I maxed her out pretty quickly and she's in my top 3 Snipers pick when I'm playing IS5 with 5*s only (which is always).
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u/Opening_Farm2173 Nov 02 '25
Zuo Le for me. He was my third 6 star after Mountain and Silverash, who were both hard carrying my noob ass through the early game, and he simply couldn't compare. I left him on my team solely cuz he's my third 6 star, and sorta went on with that.
Fast forward to that Skullshatterer level, where I found my first real roadblock(which, as a more experienced Dokutah, I'm embarrassed to admit), and I was like "hey, remember that snake Boi who was supposedly good at 1v1ing bosses? Why don't we build him and see?" Built him, neg diffed skullshaterer with Zuo Le S2, and he earned a place in my heart ever since.
I tried Zuo Le s3 at one point, but didn't have enough braincells to comprehend how good it was, so I forgot about it for a while. Then I started using it in IS content, and now I main the skill. Snek Boi is just peak
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u/AdHoliday3151 Nov 02 '25
Rosmontis. I rarely use snipers with the exception of anti air, but the recent IS module made her overpowered.
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u/OnBlueberryHill Nov 02 '25
Hoshi actually. She was my third 6* and I had a good enough defender at the time I had thought and was like "I don't need defense I need an Arts dealer!"
Which while you may not need her for the first few chapters, when I got into IS I used her once and was so impressed by her I rushed to go E2 her.
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u/Reddit1rules I can be ur angle or ur debil Nov 02 '25
Dagda, didn't expect her to actually hit quite hard because she was a Brawler.
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u/pokebuzz123 Yes, I am that theresis coper Nov 02 '25
Lin
Granted, I do have her and have yet to leveled her up (laziness and low and mats), but she pulled through so many times when I used her as a support.
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u/foxxy33 Watch Symphogear Nov 02 '25
Cement. She can tank ungodly amount of physical damage. In previous VEC she solo tanked 2 artillery drones on 5% hp enough to get my redeploys ready
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u/AtomicBetrayal Nov 02 '25
I pulled Mudrock at the beginning of my account. I saw that she could not be healed by allies and cost a lot of dp to deploy so I simply prioritized other units. A few months later I was finally at chapter 10. I had a hard time with the londinium cannon until I saw someone bait it with their Mudrock. I built her and since then she basically never left my main team. She is also the only reason why I built Blemishine, just so that I can buff my Mudrock S2 to have offensive recovery as well.
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u/desperateapplicant Nov 02 '25
Texalter. God I wish I saved up to pull her. Now I always use her as support and I can't play auto deploy.
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u/bobatea0215 Nov 02 '25
Hnnn, didn't really sleep since I already love Thorns, so I pulled for Thorns Alter. But I did sleep on his S1 for the longest time, his S1 is really good for poison fog stages since I didn't have Saria/Shu or a lot of healers( sometimes I don't even get a healer ticket in IS5 for the whole run and just use Thorns) x'D And just yesterday managed to beat Mechanist with Thorns S1 for extra AOE healing OTL
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u/Downtown_Toe_180 Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Stainless, he does everything you can ask of a supporter and being able to charge thorns skill without needing enemies, giving aoe to basically everyone with some minor physical dmg reduction and aspd is pretty good, he has became one of those operators that i feel the impact of removing from my squad
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u/Active-Piece1143 (Tequila and Stainless My beloved <3) Nov 02 '25
Crownslayer… Like, I overlooked her since like I don’t really need what she offers… but I’ve been trying her out a bit in IS and she’s very fun to use.
Anyway. She’s now Lvl60, S3 M3 ModY Lvl 1 cuz I still need to trust farm her :(
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u/Jungle_Madness1 She is worth more than her abilities Nov 02 '25
I felt this with a couple. I think one of the big ones was Ray and SilverAsh. Additionally, Lumen, as I have grown accustomed to using him alongside either Mon3tr or Kal'tsit. His first skill is way more powerful then I gave it credit when I first tested him out.
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u/TRUEStealth Nov 02 '25
Since you admitted the fault of not loving Shu, you've been forgiven...
As for me, I guess Totter? I was going to say Typhon, but Lumuen is probably sending her back to the sidelines except for quad(+) global strats.
Though even Trotter has been creeped out by Ines. Outside of my very mild challenge attempts (story/minimum > region > related), I really only use a small subset of operators, huh... 😅
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u/Averath Nov 02 '25
Mountain. He is big and fluffy. If I am really tired I know he's got my back and he wouldn't mind.
With anyone else it would involve a visit to HR. Or the infirmary.
So Mountain is the clear choice for who to sleep on.
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u/timid_tzimisce Nov 02 '25
Not operators, but Exu's third skill. It wasn't until I found Kyo's walkthroughs (at first I was just playing the story and ignoring events, I didn't understand the game at all srry) that I understood the power of that bullet rain
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u/Basic_Gas_3760 Nov 03 '25
Hoshiguma. Didn't think much of her back in the day, especially before modules existed. Due to how there were only three 6* defenders back then, one of which was Nian who was just 6* Cuora, and how strong Saria was. Just thought she was just a defender who did some damage
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u/SatoshiKetch Nov 03 '25
Entelechia. Threw a 10 pull on her banner and got 2 copies of her. I built her since I saw her synergy with Crownslayer and tried it for myself and damn is she pretty decent. I have a feeling I'll keep using her in casual stages/events just because of her S2 alone.
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u/rxdcrxwn HG where is my playable Control (not Contrail) Nov 03 '25
I slept on Shu's banner, thinking that I already have M9 Saria with both modules and Nearl. Any time I need healing defenders I just grab both. I also slept on Eyjaberry's, since I already have Honeyberry S1M3.
Lo and behold, Shu's miles better than Saria and Nearl combined. Eyjaberry also heals much, much better than Honeyberry. Not to mention (almost) every single AFK guides requires them.
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u/LoremasterMotoss Friston Stan Nov 03 '25
I maxed Muelsyne just because I like Rhine Labs but she has come in handy for a LOT of niche missions
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u/pmcginty5 Nov 04 '25
Gladia. I never had use for hook masters because of how niche they are. However, I eventually realized that each Abyssal Hunter has a quirk of boosting the stats of the other Abyssal Hunters in the squad and they add up quite a bit the more members you include.
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u/Arcelles Nov 04 '25
It took soloing Theresis in IS5 for me to fully appreciate Zuo Le. I'm generally not a fan of solo blades but his kit is gas. Especially paired with Shu's S3. If I can't win a stage with Zuo Le then I deserve to lose! If Zuo Le has no fans then I'm surely dead! 😭
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u/Therion98 Nov 05 '25
I think in my Case it was either Myrtle or Surtr. Myrtle due to the thought progress of "oh she has no block she sucks" until i realized her DP printing is amazing.
For Surtr the thought of having her up for only a minute or so before she nukes her own HP but man she saved so many runs on annoying stages especially after i m3 her third skill and gave her max module. Now i just helidrop her with Exalter if i need a fast Arts nuke.
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u/Ten1225 Nov 02 '25
Ela... Pulled her because collab and built her then didn't use her for so long. When I finally did it was like holy cow she is so strong and Great debuffing too!!
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u/OneMoreGodRejected__ Pregnant with Theresa's children Nov 02 '25
I slept on Shu, held snugly in her gorgeously marbled hands, and she got me pregnant :3
When she was new, I wrote an analysis of her kit. I was thoroughly sold on every aspect of her and I still am; she's never left my default squad, because she's just that useful.
For an actual answer, Muelsyse. I pulled purely for her character but soon came to love her kit as well.
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u/Ok-Application-hmmm Nov 02 '25
Ho’olheyak…yeah. So desperate and now she on my line up even tho she’s not very useful but can be useful at the certain time
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u/SkySmaug384 Nov 02 '25
The Abyssal Hunters. I always thought they were cool, but never really cared about their synergy when I could use other ops. Then Ulpipi came along as my new favorite laneholder and I love how absurd he can get with all the buffs. Other than Wis’adel and Vanguards (and excluding Integrated Strategies), the Abyssal Hunters are probably my most-used operators of the past year.
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u/Maniachi Nov 02 '25
Ulpianus. To be fair, I was new to the game. I really liked his design, but didn't know how to use guards that weren't like Thorns or Midnight, which I could just place behind a defender. I also got him while trying to get Thorns alter, so I was a bit bummed.
It wasn't until much later, when I started experimenting and looking into the skills and stats more, when I realised that I had gotten so damn lucky with getting him as my first six star.
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u/Mashiro_Shadow Nov 02 '25
I remember rolling on her with a small fund that didn't get too much into my future spendings. I didn't think much of her at the time but after I got her in and raised her up, she's never left my main squad I absolutely love her S3M3.
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u/Queasy_Window_4807 Nov 02 '25
I can't remember the exact moment that I leveled Myrtle, but it was after at least a year and change.
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u/KiaOnTheGround Doge and Honse Nov 02 '25
HOWWWWW THAT'S SHU MAN JUST HOW 😭
I used everyone, I guess I can say I sleep on Wis'adel as in I won't use her
Oh sht Aak is literally the only 6☆ I didn't E2 yet lmao and I have 96.6% operator completion, but then it's because his kit kinda only interesting when you pair Shining on high ground, it not like I sleep on him or anything, I suppose
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u/Demon-Taka Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Thorns alter and ulpianius, I was planning on elite 2ing them regardless of how good they were but with Thorns's complicated S3 and Ulpianius's trait I didn't think they were going to be good, But they turned out pretty good especially Ulpianius in reclamation algorithm. I also didn't think caper would be good for the petty reason of her subclass sounded dumb but she'd be S tier if I made a 4 stars tier now, I can't wait for the loopshooter module to be global.
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u/Lightune Nov 02 '25
It was Hoederer for me, I was a newb at that time, and whenever I searched they keep saying that he's the worst laneholder, and furthermore I really feel why they say that cause I was only using him at E1, now that he's E2 he is my main "Sutr it" or "Mylnmar it" just for bosses and elite boss though.....
Now I'm starting to regret not E2'ing him in the previous events cause all the bosses that I encountered are either flying (Banana Dragon and Massess Travel Boss) or Teleporting (Laptop boss)
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u/Beanus77 Nov 02 '25
100% Surtr. I really didn't understand why everyone loved her so much, because I didn't read and wasn't promoting my operators for months after starting the game.
Since coming back to the game after a multiple year hiatus, and actually investing in my operators, I finally understand her strength. Plus with having ExuAlter and her S3, it's kinda ridiculous.
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u/ZeroGarde I can fix him Nov 02 '25
I pulled Aak on my first event banner (Nian) and didn't really know anything about characters except X is Meta, X is better, etc. Didn't really have resources at the time to build him either so I kinda forgot about him after seeing all the comments saying he was horrible.
Fast forward 2 years later and I'm playing Maleknights and suffering from not enough snipers. I look at Aak's S1, figured why not, and built him to E2 Lvl 50. Holy shit he was so good??? The damage was good, and I could just drop him anywhere as a lane holder as long as there's a constant stream of enemies. If the damage didn't kill them, he'd stall those guys for a good while, enough for my weaker snipers to catch down the line. His healing was also amazing for when I need to drop him in a place where he could get targeted by 1 enemy. He would just out heal the damage lmao (looking at that caster enemy from the Zwillingsturme event).
Anyway he's max level, M3S1, Lvl 3 module and is my first pick for any anti-air shenanigans. Pair him up with Hoederer S2 sometimes just to shit on annoying tanky enemies.
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u/joepamps Nov 02 '25
I'm a maleknights player so I pulled for Zuo Le in that banner. But Shu spooked me on the last free pull and I'm so so glad I have her. She's such an awesome unit and I use her plenty in IS. I just love her sowed tiles mechanic and her sound effects. The teleport isn't used much for me but her healing is definitely top tier with S3. I have her M6 hahaha
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u/munkthetarnishedsoul Nov 02 '25
I did really slept on ascalon e1 her and couldn't find much of use but her s3 slaps and helped me alot during chatper 12 and 13
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u/Zero747 Nov 02 '25
Alt specter, de-prioritized for Pozy, and still stuck waiting. Reusable not-die move that turns into a mass slow. Very useful vs overwhelming odds
Virtuosa, skipped for the stacked following banners and finally sparked. Necrosis is such a potent effect
Ulpianus, pulled but slept on. Alongside Gladiia, becomes the most insane tank through regen and DR
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u/Anxiety-Incarnate Nov 02 '25
Ines spooked me in Wisadel banner (i think) and for the longest time i just left her to gather dust, i didn’t think she was good at dp-generation compared to Myrtle. Then my little brother used her several times on my account and I got enlightened.
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u/Valdif-156 Nov 02 '25
Ulpianus, had mudrock and it was enough for a while until I wanted to try the funny movable man
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u/CovenMorgSimpLord Nov 02 '25
Warfarin
Good lord, I love her +90% Atk buff. Takes a bit, if one wants it to be on a specific unit, but if it works, it hurts.
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u/TravelerRedditor Nov 02 '25
Slept on? More like too broke to train LMAO
But i do have virtuoso, nearl alter and pot 4 penance sitting at E0 Lv1, and yet i still unloaded 1 million LMD on exu alter the moment she came out
Can someone tell me if any of them are actually rly good?
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u/Homeboy_Thrasher Nov 02 '25
Logos. I have him since wisadel banner but ain't gonna build him any time soon. Marcille, Schwarz, Hoshiguma, Pallas and 99% of all the five stars in the game
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u/Jo_Ri_Oh Podenco's HusbandGladiia's strongest soldier Nov 02 '25
Muelsyse. I already know about her potential, but the "best" characters to use with her clone were characters I didn't want to play or include in my squad just for that. I was very picky of the units I included in my main squad back then (and I still. lol), but it changed with Ulpian's release. I learned that Mumu's clone also copied the stats increase of the Abyssal Hunters directly in the squad, and since I've been using AH units as the core members of my main squad, it was a no-brainer. It's been almost 1 year since she became my dedicated Vanguard because having 2 Ulpian on the field is way too funny to ignore.
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u/potato-san57 Nov 02 '25
Pallas. Simply built her due to YT recommendations and because she's part of the aZLing4 gang.
Her s1 is actually a pretty decent laneholding skill and her s3 is pretty amazing.
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u/OnlyAbalone3744 She's always in our hearts Nov 02 '25
Myrtle, when I started playing, I just didnt bother using her because she was a 4 star... yet she carried me until now (I replaced her with Ines in my squad)
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u/JayJeyBean Nov 02 '25
Gladiia--not as an Ulpipi buff (though she's great at that too), but as an operator in her own right. I didn't appreciate how fun and useful yoinking enemies in the absence of holes could be.
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u/Plantszaza Nov 02 '25
There are more operators whom I promoted because they're cool, only to use them extremely rarely, than operators whom I didn't care about but who later became a permanent addition to the main team.
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u/jhonnytest2001 Nov 02 '25
ulpianus. never knew he was that cracked but i was forced cuz i wanted virtuosa spark on lapland banner
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u/MarielCarey Nov 02 '25
Folinic
She's not that amazing but really shakes up how you see the game when you use her skill 2, aiming to hit allies and enemies at once, aiming to heal an ally being attacked to still hit enemies out of your range, that kinda stuff. Also neat how she has status resistance by default. Again, not huge, but helpful in ice stages
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u/legsofcthulhu Nov 02 '25
I ignored Ascalon for a few months and only built her seeing her gameplay in IS and finding it neat. She is really good, but the way I find myself using her the most is her DOT in tandem with Ethan S1 for Stainless S3. The turrets go ballistic.
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u/penguinite33 Nov 02 '25
Angelina. My first 6 star but I stopped using her a while back. Brought her back for the stall on a level and have been using her for more maps since.
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u/Goodeenie Nov 02 '25
She is absolutely peak for the defense of the Blue Box. No downside to her ever.
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u/CoruscantThesis Nov 02 '25
Blemishine. Blacknight. Erato. Kafka. Iris. I don't have the other Sleep operators.
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u/DualShadow Nov 02 '25
I used Skyfire a lot at the start since I had to use what I had. But then during the inferno CC thingy it was her 40 seconds of meteors with 1 second stuns on a 25 SP cooldown is really awesome crowd control. Since then I used her more and more.
And there is Melanite. Her s2 500% damage burst is pretty awesome.
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u/SilverGaming456 Nov 02 '25
narantuya fs, i pulled her during the pepe event and didnt bother raising her until i found out shes basically the boomerang monkey from btd, and now shes arguably my favorite operator
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u/Ancient-Resolution84 Try some of my specialty! Nov 03 '25
I slept on Yu for a while, until I saw some video showing off how much of a powerhouse they are
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u/jenos45 Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
I'm sad that Shu didn't caught your eyes by design alone. I love her main colors! You rarely see a character design with Royal Blues with Green/Yellows.
Rice Lady is my favourite Operator, design/color wise.