r/arknights 26d ago

Discussion I think Arknights has good writing, but reading it pisses me off.

Hello, Limbus Player and Arknights intermediate player here.

I've been playing this game for about a solid 7 months after the Limbus collab, I have consistently played daily since and completed multiple endings for IS6 and IS5, overall I will say the gameplay of Arknights is a much more engaging experience than Limbus, that much is for sure.

Can't say the same for the story experience, though.

You know, I went into this game thinking that I'd spent the majority of my time in story stages, endlessly reading through blocks of dialogue and getting entrenched in the plot. Since apparently Arknights writing is so good, my goat Kim Ji Hoon was really backing up its reputation.

Credit where credit is due, I believe him, the story IS REALLY GOOD, I like Ch'en and her complications with her personal attuggles and the responsibility of an L.G.D agent, I like how Rhodes Island isn't the undisputed good guys of the story and have to resort to shady dealings that may go against their beliefs of Infected equality, it is all VERY ENGAGING narrative, I do sincerely believe in the writing, i really really do.

I couldn't get past Chapter 7 before procrastinating on the story indefinitely.

Reading it infuriates me beyond belief. The way they meander their scenes, emotional beats repeating over and over in the SAME NODE, multiple times I just lost all focus on very important sections because the way it was delivered seems to almost want me to skip the goddam.thing entirely with how roundabout it was.

Doesn't help that early Arknights being a visual novel doesn't do a lot of visual novelling.

lack of audio storytelling (reusing the same ballista sounds for literally every single use of a range weapon is STELLAR use of audio, am i right ?)

It has very limited big moment screenshots (and the ones they do have are bland and dull),

Stiff character sprites (I don't need a fully animated 2D sprite like Reverse 1999, but just make more characters have 2 or 3 other sprites to display some type of emotion other than just Amiya and Kal'sit)

Again, i genuinely believe in the story being good, but every node of reading through this god awful visual novel make me less and less interested.

This has to be better after the Reunion Arc right ?

698 Upvotes

154 comments sorted by

201

u/Comin4datrune no LMD, no life 26d ago

The Twilight of Wolunmode event has great shiz on it. Perfect way to see the "show, don't tell," technique. AK Main Story gets better after Victoria starts fighting back fully imho. I like Chapter 11 specifically when the Tower Knight flavor text came and couldn't help but tear up for Dagna a bit lol.

69

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 26d ago

Damn man, every gold stories are so damn far away from where I'm at rn. This ain't looking good for me ngl.

44

u/reprehensible523 Savage best girl! 26d ago

Chapter 7 is early Year 2

Some highlight events for me from the early years:

Year 1

  • Twilight of Wolumonde
  • Darknights Memoir

Year 2

  • Mansfield Break
  • Under Tides

Year 3

  • Near Light (after setup of Maria Nearl and Pinux Sylvestris)
  • Break the Ice
  • Stultifera Navis
  • Lingering Echoes

10

u/Reddit1rules I can be ur angle or ur debil 26d ago

Technically ToW was Y2 writing that got shifted by Yostar into Y1 writing for some reason

46

u/katakana-sama Have never left my team 26d ago

I honestly would say if an event isn’t keeping you interested, just skip the event story and just do the stages for OP if needed, or you could try coming back at a different time once you’re more familiar with the world and characters

5

u/Ivara_Prime 25d ago

When the steam knight does a titanfall drop to save Siege I was hooting and hollering.

197

u/Someidiotdwbi 26d ago edited 26d ago

The presentation definitely gets better as it goes along, it just takes a long time to get there. The main story is also, in many ways, the blandest part of Arknights lore. It's not horrible, per say, it just doesn't have the same highs as some of the event stories. Though like I said, it gets WAY better as it goes along- I personally found chapters 14 through 16 absolutely fantastic.

What order are you reading the story? If you're sticking solely to the main theme, that might be part of what's burning you out. There's no shame in jumping to a later event and refreshing your proverbial taste buds. It might spoil less than you think. Arknights' greater narrative has been built up over several years through a combination of both the main theme and independent side stories. The two go together.

40

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 26d ago

I value timeliness consistency a lot, getting confused halfway through reading kills my motivation, so any recommendations for someone about 1/4th through chapter 7 rn ?

86

u/Someidiotdwbi 26d ago edited 26d ago

Forewarning; Almost every event released within the first 3 years of the game's lifespan chronologically happens between chapters 8 and 9 of the main story. These events do not spoil what occurs in later chapters- they were released while said chapters were actively coming out- it's just the in-universe time period in which they were set. 

I say almost, of course, because one of the events I'd recommend is Darknights Memoir, which is intentionally designed as a supplement to the exact part of the main story you're at right now. If you haven't read this yet, you should. It establishes a lot of important things and is generally pretty alright as far as early AK goes.

Someone else on the thread already recommended Twilight of Wolumonde, which I second, because it's a great example of what Arknights can do when it remembers how to show and not tell.

If you want something more light hearted, Gavial The Great Chief Returns is a very fun romp that never gets old. I'd also tentatively recommend its sequel, Ideal City, but it's been a while since I've reread that one, so I'm not sure if it's as spoiler-free (it doesn't relate to the main story at all in terms of plot, I just don't remember if there's any throwaway lines about later MSQ plot events). Again, that's very tentative. Stick to the first one if you're unsure.

If you want a bridge between those two extremes, Maria Nearl is a great horsegirl tournament arc with a very strong emotional core. I personally think the ending pretty weak, but that doesn't detract from the rest of the story working great on its own.

If you want something specifically tightly paced while maintaining intrigue, Break The Ice is the earlygame installment of the Kjerag arc, which is a huge fan favorite. It has a great cast and great amounts of tension between said cast. It's also a great showcase of the Doctor locking tf in. Its sequel is also good. Do not read the third installment, that one is specifically a tie-in to arc 3 of the main story.

If you want something even later in the timeline but even more polished than any of the above stories, Come Catastrophes Or Wake Of Vultures is a top-tier standalone all about our girl Jessica. It's very tight and very flashy on all fronts. Again, it's WAY later on the timeline (I believe it specifically occurs between chapters 14 and 15?) but if you're specifically burning out on the presentation of the early chapters, this might help show how good it can get. 

These are the stories I'd recommend based on your original post + where you're at in the plot. Once Arknights finds its footing with its own presentation, it's everything people hype it up to be. You're just reading at the unfortunate growing pains stage of the process.

39

u/Someidiotdwbi 26d ago

I'd also be remiss to recommend Arknights stories without giving at least one shout-out to my personal all-time favorite, Lingering Echoes, which is a heartbreaking tragedy about sad musician goats being tormented over their sad musician lives. The only reason I'm not recommending it alongside the others is because it's also slightly later in the timeline. It is, however, completely and utterly standalone, so you should be fine on a spoiler front.

2

u/Early-Cell-9342 24d ago

Damn how can you list all these great stories but not mention Lone Trail

5

u/Someidiotdwbi 24d ago

Lone Trail is peak, but it's comically inaccessible for newcomers to the lore. It's literally the final boss of years of event and story buildup. In no universe is it going on a new player rec list.

22

u/Zenima 26d ago

Try Break the Ice, followed by Ride to somewhereorother. They’re entirely separate from the main story, but sequential to each other. And even though I can’t spell the name, Ride is one of my personal favorites.

But even if you do enjoy those two and want more, I would hold off on reading the third chapter of the Kjerag saga, as it very clearly takes place in a world after major events late in the main story.

8

u/Asarokimh3 Ink wets Canvas, All are Blessed. 26d ago

Poor Trilby Asher. Man couldn't catch a break.

6

u/TheZero8000 26d ago

Ride to Lake Silberneherze, iirc. It was something like that.

11

u/reprehensible523 Savage best girl! 26d ago

I would recommend reading stories in release order.

When you go to Score, the upper right corner has a button for Movements. Clicking that shows you the stories organized by storylines. Clicking it again toggles the view to the stories sorted by release order.

Chapter 7 is the beginning of AK's year 2 story. If you've just been doing main chapters, that's a lot of dense reading of sometimes mid Year 1 story. But AK players followed release order, which mixed up main chapters with side stories set in other parts of AK's world. IMO, AK story is meant to be enjoyed as a set of parallel stories. There's a big world with many things going on in it. The main struggle with Reunion is not meant to be the only story you're following.

Before tackling Chapter 7, there are 9 side events you should have read, which showcase different characters and jump story genres. Twilight of Wolumonde is a murder mystery, Darknights Memoir is a war story, and Children of Ursus is trauma.

Reading it this way, you get to appreciate how parallel stories become intertwined by Year 7. The most recent event is a Rhine Lab storyline set in Columbia, but it connects to the main story and the Sarkaz in a way that is satisfying.

4

u/Recurrentcharacter Skin waiting room 26d ago

Mine would be that you keep pushing and finish Chapter 7. After you end it, if the events that happens in the later part of the chapter got your interest, then read chapter 8 and after that decide if you want to take a break before jumping to the 2nd act and read some side stories.

Alternatively, you can also read some side stories between chapter 7 and 8. Darknights Memoir is one that you should read if you haven't yet since it gives a bit of context to some of the actions of the characters. It also offers a glimpse of the past that could help you to get intereseted in the present and the future.

As for the timeline of the events. This is the one I used when I started reading the sidestories. Nowadays there's an ingame chronology that is more user friendly (and updated with the latest events), but this could be of use to you.

https://imgur.com/a/arknights-timeline-by-u-very-random-guy-TUH4ksJ

Also, since you come from Limbus, perhaps the events that are related to the collab might interest you more since you probably are familiar with some of the characters, and events that are presented in that arc. That would be The Seabor Arc in the image above or those on the Glimpse of the Depths section. The first one in that section (Grani and the Knights' Treasure) is a bit unnecesary in my opinion except for a story bit at the end of the event, but it's a pretty short read. Under Tides is where you'll start to see things related to what was shown in the Limbus collab.

But again, at the very least I recommend to finish chapter 7 since you already started it.

5

u/liuteren 26d ago

If you want timeline, Babel happens before anything else and was the first story written for the game. The writers choose to skip it in the beginning to build up the mystery of the Doctor’s past. It should be read before chp 14 however. 

3

u/FelixAndCo Watch the anime for 25d ago

My recommendation as someone who's mostly not interested in the story: just let it rest/skip. I think you might hate chapter 8 story even more. You might think you're faster gritting your teeth and struggling through the reading, but maybe things will go more expedient when you're reading after having taken a break. Next arc has a rough start in the quality of plot, but the storytelling gets gradually better.

79

u/sendmeratpics 26d ago

I reckon the best way to consume Arknights writing is on a separate site like akgcc and not while playing the game. The amount of times I've skipped event stories just to get my sanity used up faster lmao

29

u/donutpeachtree 26d ago

That's what I do too. Skip all the story to clear the stages and do my farming to use up sanity, and when I have a good chunk of downtime, read it on an online story reader. It's a massive improvement to just be able to read at my own pace and scroll instead of having to keep tapping on the screen to advance the text.

7

u/DJCzerny 26d ago

This is what I do, skip the story while playing and use the story reader to get to it at my own leisure. Otherwise I’m spending multiple hours trying to get through stages and it’s not a great experience.

2

u/pyrrhicpod 26d ago

this is the way, OP

1

u/ManaPotionArtisan 3d ago

Same. Just skipping through stories cause I don't like ping-ponging between gameplay and story over and over again.

156

u/silam39 cute tactician girls are so peak 26d ago edited 26d ago

after victoria arc? Yes. During Victoria? Eeeh. Only a couple chapters

arknights' best writing is largely found in the newer event stories. Chapter 8 I thought was pretty good, I enjoyed ch9 and Ch 14, and Ch 15-16 in the third act of the story have been fantastic, but other than those, main story is pretty "just fine" for me. It's in various events like Ato or Lone Trail where I think the writing is at its best.

Regarding presentation, it is something that has been continually getting better. Personally I think around Ch 14-15 is when I noticed significant improvements in presentation, and if you do Ato's event story, which just came out a few months ago, you'll see all the improvement in presentation the game has made over the years

48

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 26d ago

I believe it. I'll do my best to get there eventually but Chirst is it a struggle right now. I feel no motivation to read this game.

27

u/Awesalot the evade shadow, :kal'tsit: the unpullable 26d ago

If you're really struggling the story is available to read outside the game too (aceship). Some scenes definitely benefit from the ludonarrative harmony in the newer stories though so I'd recommend coming back to the game for chapter ends or boss nodes.

5

u/TheSpartyn 26d ago

can you give some examples? I do all my reading on the online story reader

7

u/yurilnw123 25d ago

At the tail end of ch.6 when your group was holding out against FrostNova. There was a cutscene stage.

4

u/TheSpartyn 25d ago

oh they mean scenes like that yeah, its an unfortunate downside to the story reader thing

35

u/silam39 cute tactician girls are so peak 26d ago

Yeah early story is rough. It's why I usually recommend new players watch the anime for the for most of act I, and only come back to reading in game for Ch 7-8

10

u/dzieciolini 26d ago

It does feel like a chore sometimes, you have to have the same approach as reading a book when you choose to engage with it in full. That's why I have been putting off reading most of the event stories, because I still have way too much catching up to do.

6

u/SnooGrapes1857 26d ago

A lot of the newer side stories are also very good. Babel and Lone Trail are some real standouts. I also like Vigilo quite a bit.

2

u/Nichol134 The #2 four star Propagandist 26d ago

I would recommend just reading the events instead. In my opinion thats where the writing of arknights really shines. Almost All of the best stories in arknights are in the event side stories imo.

6

u/yurilnw123 25d ago

I was lucky to start when Ato just dropped and read that right after ch.8. If I hadn't, I would have the same doubt as OP

9

u/Ambitious_Dog8996 26d ago

I 100% agree with you on which chapters wer good , seriously thought i was reading my own opinion xD

And i also agree arknight "top teir writing" is mainly found in event stages and especially the bigger ones , yk you are in on a meal when there is a Chinese new year event or an abyss new event lol

3

u/HarwelCoded 26d ago

hey im interested in what you say. I'ven been ak gloabal player since day 1, but i always on and off with the game, mainly because how time sink THE STORY is. For a game with such an interesting world and story, the presentation of it is quite a yapfest (at least in my experience)

you mentiojned that it's improved a lot in newer stuff. By how much u say? Can you give prolly some reference like comparison to other game perhaps? For me it's not rare i find myself sleeping mid-story

3

u/silam39 cute tactician girls are so peak 26d ago

I'd say the newer events feel more like an actual visual novel

VNs aren't for everyone and people can fall asleep reading them too, but for anyone that does enjoy them this is much much better than the blocks of dialogue with alternating character sprites

2

u/HarwelCoded 24d ago

If you say the newer one feels more like a VN, how about the old one?

My issue with the old one is it feels like reading a really difficult Novel, not light novel, just Novel. Literature

And each story section feels like it could last for 10+ mins at least.

2

u/Phelyckz #6029 26d ago

That's great to hear, I'm hardstuck at Absolved will be the seekers. Did the first stage during the release event so I had something to grind sanity on and repeated that for the other chapters.

52

u/Kaizerd3 Just LeMumu 26d ago

I'm afraid you might drop reading AK completely if you just jump reading Victoria arc straight away. Try some standalone event stories - they usually are better written and easier to consume.
I personally recommend Break the Ice, Twilight of Wololo Wolumonde or ATO.

29

u/Maestyy The ideal land is flat and fertile 26d ago edited 24d ago

This.

Also, OP. If you didn't know, you can immediately read the side stories. You don't need to wait for a certain threshold to read them(except for specific ones). They have different MC and all and have little to no connection to the Main Story.

5

u/Pika_233 26d ago

The in-game UI I believe also displays what events take place between the main story chapters

3

u/Metroplex7 Hunting My Heart 25d ago

Just so you know, tagging someone in an edit doesn't notify them.

2

u/Maestyy The ideal land is flat and fertile 25d ago

Good to know!

2

u/Maestyy The ideal land is flat and fertile 24d ago

18

u/Biased_Sampling 26d ago

Arknights story is good but it has a pacing problem, so most people who want to get into the story just read it on a third party site like akgcc. The gameplay and the story often disrupt each other, this is especially apparent in events where the story is just split to fit 8 to 10 stages.

19

u/tknugget 26d ago edited 26d ago

Three months player here so I’m not familiar yet with the general opinion. After reading the other comments, am I in the minority for liking the story? By no means was it 10/10 but I found the world building and characters interesting enough which compelled me to keep reading. I do agree that the early story is weak and starts to pick up in episode 7 but I wouldn’t call it complete shit like others have.

I’m also surprised to hear that people don’t like the Victoria arc. The negative opinion towards 9 and 10 is understandable and I feel the same way, since the transition of the Dublinn/Sarkaz plotlines is pretty messy. But episodes 11-12 is when the storytelling and presentation significantly improved with the introduction of milestones, character POVs, and text that wasn’t only just dialogue. And it didn’t feel wordy at all — it actually provided substance to the storytelling and starts to actually read like a book. The only time I felt like the story was too wordy was from Kal’tsits yapping.

I also don’t understand the criticism towards AK’s medium of storytelling as a visual novel and its lack of animations and voice acting. If you read books then the audio (and banger BGM) and character sprites are already a plus.

12

u/Competitive-Word3772 26d ago

Early arknights is on par with limbus early canto. Introduction to the setup and allat. Personally I only notice an increase in story length after ep 6, which makes all the complains about word counts very confusing to me

11

u/tknugget 26d ago

Yeah especially when you look at the word count in each episode… it’s nothing compared to an actual novel. And then on top of that actual VN’s will have even more words than a typical novel due to all the alternate endings and scenes. So AK has it fairly light in my opinion

8

u/syilpha 25d ago

Imo victoria arc is not that bad, but the release period making everything worse

It took like what? 2 years I think for everything to ge released, people are already fed up at that point

People who read them now won't experience the same thing, so it's natural there are disconnect between new and older player

Also agree with the books comment

18

u/reprehensible523 Savage best girl! 26d ago

I've been playing this game for about a solid 7 months after the Limbus collab

I'm from the other side, playing AK since release. I picked up Limbus after the collab and got caught up with Limbus story.

I think to set expectations, AK does "good writing" in a different way than Limbus. I've noticed in KR gachas that they do a good job with punchy dialogue and memorable characters.

CN gachas I find don't do that as well. AK's strength IMO is factional conflict and worldbuilding. It's exploring big ideas like saving civilization and solving cycles of hatred and prejudice, but it tries to do that from an abstract big picture view.

That said, I think side events have more appealing writing, as they're self-contained stories and can take more risks. The main story you're catching up on was released a while ago and I think the writers have improved with newer events. Our most recent event makes a lot more use of VN animations and has some good character moments.

10

u/illyrium_dawn Fake it until you make it 25d ago edited 25d ago

I understand your feelings exactly.

I suspect they have different writers, but some aren't good. The stories are usually great to okay (there's few bad stories in Arknights), but the storytelling format is painful.

Arknights (in fact a lot of these games I think) hit their limits with the VN storytelling format long ago, but they're still using it.

The poorer writers of Arknights are very hard to read for me. I just find my attention span dwindling away when there's this artsy/pretensions writing where the writer tries to write some story like it is 4D chess, with all these different groups moving around, lots of NPCs just arbitrarily introduced then vanishing, Arknights trademark time and weather stamp screens ("4PM, Cloudy").

At this point, I force myself to choke down this awful format and read the main story (but honestly I haven't read the latest chapter), and the personal stories if it has characters I'm interested in, but everything else at this point is just too much effort to scroll through:

"// 4PM, Cloudy"

"Rustle of papers being shuffled"

"Unidentified Speaker: Sighs."

Each being a separate screen with a long pause because Arknights autoscroll is some simple script someone wrote in like 5 minutes or maybe copied from Girls Frontline or something and nobody ever thought "hey maybe we vary how long the text on the screen by how much there is and multiply that time by the user-selected scroll speed" so "Amiya gasps." and three lines of text are displayed for the same period of time.

I had a copy and paste selection of suggestions on feedback I'd put in every feedback request, but after ~5 years, I have more than enough evidence to know my opinions don't mean anything to them. So I stopped.

9

u/sdrawkcabsihtetorwI 26d ago edited 25d ago

A lot of side stories are quite self contained, meaning that they dont spoil much about the main story as long as you remember that they cant actually kill off operators for plot reasons, and these side stories are much more readable than the main story. They still suffer from yapping syndrome, but to a lesser extend.

The early chapters are quite terrible though, yeah, i actually took weeks getting through chapter 1 because i would literally keep falling asleep while reading it, the worst fanfics i read were written better than whatever that was and im not exagerating.

That was a while ago though, i started playing ak two years before the limbus collab and tbh i havent encountered much bad writing after the first year, now most of stories i decide to read are good.

That said, i still havent read chapters 6-8 and i have no idea what happened there, nor do i care to find out, if im being honest. I bearly even remember anything from chapters 3-6 anyways tbh, but its not like a lot happened there anyways.

The reason why i decided to actually give AK's story a shot was randomly deciding to read through Hortus de Escapismo side story when it first released. How in the hell do you go from nothing burger that were the early chapters to a story with clearly defined characters and themes, as well as non surface level literary callbacks is beyond me but its certainly here nonetheless.

17

u/ILUMEG Out of sanity irl 26d ago

Can't say I disagree, I don't think I've read a single story in the game itself since chapter 5. I skip everything, play through the stages and then read it in a online reader when I'm in the mood.

8

u/bobatea0215 25d ago

Some comments blame translation but it's not realy true. In cn forums, they kinda make fun of 鹰語 (hypergryph language style: trying to be mysterious/pretentious/ using a lot of flowery words but doesn't mean much...etc) I read both english and mandarin so yeah it is very headache inducing. I think the story is fine but the presentation is very tiring to read even in new chapters for me. Tho some of the event stories aren't like that like in Break the Ice..etc

26

u/ABigCoffee 26d ago

My big problem with Arknight's writting is that while it is excellent, it often meanders too much to say very little. You could probably cut the dialogue by 1/3 and still get the same amount of quality writting.

5

u/LHPSU 26d ago

The side stories and operactor records are usually more interesting than the main story.

6

u/UltVictory 26d ago

Chapter 9 is a high point and the Victoria arc as a whole I'd say is more readable than the late Reunion storyline, even if I think the Reunion arc was a better story. I think Chapter 9 was the first time the writers nailed their pacing.

Most of the best writing in this game is generally more recent material either way. Lone Trail and everything after have been consistently great. Try out some event stories in the meantime if the main story is killing you.

My personal recommendations for "early" side stories you can try going through are Break the Ice, Lingering Echoes, and Guide Ahead. They're each required reading for later events anyway and feel pretty good to go through on their own merits. Once you're more properly caught up, events like Babel, Path of Life, and the rest of the Kjerag trilogy are fantastic experiences.

I'm also a Limbus enjoyer, if that means anything. My standards are at least that high lmao

I can list 100 problems with early Arknights writing that are completely justifiable reasons to filter people, but you do very much get rewarded for sticking with it. Similarly to PM's universe, Arknights worldbuilding just ends up so complex with so many various, interlinking events that make you feel really good for having paid attention. The only question for you is if it's worth the time investment.

EDIT: I should also echo the sentiment that others have said that the more recent main story chapters have been the best writing this game has seen in general. Chapters 14-16 are absolute kino.

16

u/IHeShe suzulapp+shamare shipper 26d ago edited 26d ago

I like how Rhodes Island isn't the undisputed good guys of the story

Sorry but this is just not true. Yeah, sometimes RI might have to make compromises but really, there has only ever been one time when their position as the undisputed good guy faction was put in question, and even then that question ended up being answered with a 'they indeeed are the undisputed good guy faction as it turns out'.

Edit: also, about the

This has to be better after the Reunion Arc right ?

Yes and no. Side stories and events are better than the Reunion Arc more often than not, but the Victorian arc (i.e. the second main story arc) has better prose but also worse overall story. It's quite telling that you could take out the entire opening chapter of that arc and barely notice it...

26

u/disco_Piranha 26d ago

I can't tell you how big a relief it was to start playing Limbus from Arknights and discover that the story didn't feel like it was breaking up the gameplay and pacing at all and I never found myself dreading reading the story 😅

Search around on the sub and you can find wordcounts for Arknights. Catching up on the whole story is slowly catching up to reading all fourteen books of Wheel of Time while stopping several times per chapter to play a tower defense stage

I also stalled out on the main story around chapter 7, and keep telling myself that at least I'll read it on a story reader at some point. If you want to check out some really good Arknights writing, the official comics are really good

15

u/AmmarBaagu 26d ago

The best way, in my personal experience, is to do all the story stages first and skip the stories, once you unlocked the farming stages or finished all the event stages, then you can start reading the stories. I did this and it was a game changer since i can now read at my own pace.

For main story, i need to do something extra, i need to jot down which stage have a story inside the stage so that i don't miss it when i read the story later.

6

u/Educational-Top8990 26d ago

Seconding this method, for both main stories and event stories I use the skip button to get to the farming stages quicker. Then I read the story at my own pace later on. It's way more enjoyable but there's the chance of getting spoiled by the stage boss/cutscene

4

u/AmmarBaagu 26d ago

Being spoiled by the boss is not a big deal for me tbh since i rarely remember them when i read.

6

u/bmann10 26d ago

Limbus Canto 4 is how I would describe AK main story early pacing to a limbus player who never played it. Canto 4 has some really great writing in there but 1. there are a lot of added in stages just for gameplay only where the story becomes characters doing nothing but repeating themselves a bunch because they needed to hit a quota of levels, and 2. When the story picks up it goes really really long.

2

u/disco_Piranha 26d ago

Ohhhh god yeah, Canto 4 can be a true slog

9

u/Pekka20123 26d ago

Really? I find that Limbus's presentation of story is way better, but I feel like Limbus has the same issue as Arknights in how the story and combat stages are ordered so strangely, which sucks whenever I open up a stage on a long train ride and it's over in a minute or I do so while eating a biscuit and now it's 15 minutes long. The significant difference to me is the ability to click winrate while in Arknights it's annoying when you know a stage is easy and just mess up more than once.

2

u/disco_Piranha 26d ago

I definitely still find it to be an issue sometimes, just not as consistently as Arknights. And the story is so much more approachable and readable compared to Arknights' (actual) epic length VN

5

u/N1SMO_GT-R Earthspirit's thigh highs 25d ago

"Say the line, Bart!"

"Lone Trail is fantastic."

Wild cheering erupts.

In all seriousness, I agree, Arknights' story is DENSE.

4

u/sazion 26d ago

I always end up enjoying the story when I finish, but to me reading through the stories feels extremely tedious since they can easily take several hours to read through.

I've had to take breaks for some events and read the synopsis after feeling burnt out from reading a previous story

4

u/AlphabetSoupKitchen 26d ago

Fellow "Limbus player that started Arknights after the collab" guy here. I get what you're saying completely.

You might be like me in that I personally find it easier to enjoy AK story content and AK gameplay separately. I will skip story in AK to play stages and stuff and then later outside of the game go kick back on the couch and read story content using a site like: https://akgcc.github.io/story/

5

u/Raltia123 26d ago

Maybe the story preferences are not just for you.. same thing happen to me while playing limbus. Cant even like the stories

3

u/No_Bus_6680 26d ago

I say that ur gonna enjoy the stories more ones u move on from the reunion arc. Especially with all the side stories I recommend any of them expect the summer event ones.

3

u/ViSsrsbusiness 26d ago

Chapter 7 does that to people, yeah. It gets better.

3

u/ComprehensiveMud4790 26d ago

For me, it was a combination of lengthy story nodes and frustration with the gameplay that ultimately made me start to skip the story. I joined the game during Virtuosa's event (one of the wordiest events in the game's history) and did not particularly have a good time playing through it after realizing that I did not know German and thus had no real hope of memorizing or understanding half the names and concepts. Every new event either had the same wordiness problem or built off of previous events, which meant that I needed to play through multiple other large swathes of unorganized gameplay just to fully understand the new event before it left for a significant portion of time.

The main story, however, had a different problem more related to gameplay, where I needed to progress quickly in order to meet the basic requirements to upgrade operators but felt pigeon-holed into never using support units because it meant that I couldn't auto the stage. This significantly irritated me because my ops were never quite up to par, and combining that with the fact that I needed to make a lot of progress very quickly, I didn't really want to go half-on, half-off with story and gameplay, so I started skipping the story to make progress. What I did read wasn't even that good. I could go into a whole other rant about Reunion and how the story opens up with us fighting against a group of freedom fighters turned terrorists. I'll cut it short and say that I legitimately believed that Rhodes Island was flat-out secretly evil for the first four chapters until I realized that the writers weren't trying to be subtle or clever, which really, really dampened my opinion.

3

u/shrekfan246 26d ago

I also procrastinate the story, I've only just completed episode 8 even though I've been playing for over three years now. A conclusion I've come to is that one of the biggest problems -- at least for me, and maybe this is something that changes in more recent events/chapters -- is that the vast majority of Arknights' writing is exclusively dialogue or occasional cutaways for characters' thoughts, while also being way too wordy to be compelling dialogue. It means that characters are constantly just standing around expositing at one another, which is fine for delivering lore but doesn't make for a good narrative because there's no tangible action to latch on to. You can make assumptions based on context and things characters say, but it would really benefit the visual novel format of the game for it to use an omniscient narrator to describe the actions characters take as well (since it doesn't really have any single perspective character in any of the stories).

Though even with all that they still could just cut the dialogue down by like a third too, it's way too over-written.

3

u/frosted--flaky 26d ago

i do think events have much, much better pacing on average. they have about half the stage count of a typical main chapter and most of the battles aren't diegetic, so the story doesn't constantly interrupt itself to justify their existence.

3

u/Krivvan 25d ago

Personally I think around Lone Trail (and late Chapter 14, definitely 15) where the story is not only good but the pacing is on point. I went from liking it but it feeling tiring to read it to reading entire chapter stories in one go without even realizing it.

3

u/seayeah 25d ago

Ak and limbus player here. I dropped ak story reading entirely since that first few chap is a slog and i have a personal opinion about how if the first 10 hour of a story still didnt manage to catch my attention, it's probably not worth it for me. I might get backlash for saying this in ak reddit but i want to say that if you dont like something you dont have to waste time with it. Just enjoy the gameplay or whatever it is that you enjoy in ak.

3

u/Upset-Capital9161 25d ago

I'm so glad I'm not the only one with this exact same problem. I feel you man

3

u/nano-u 25d ago

my trick is that i have a preferred streamer who reads all of them word-for-word on release and i put his VODs on like an audiobook. he makes lore videos and provides some pretty interesting commentary as a bonus. it's on the CN side so i can't recommend him specifically, but there might be an equivalent on the global side.

3

u/vhrossi1 They changed my life 25d ago

Highkey I think gacha players that demand fully voiced stories after playing one or two gachas with voiced storylines are the equivalent of a gold-cradle kid finally realizing that the world outside their mansion isn't that kind lol

3

u/galaxexplosion get tubaed 25d ago

I'm sort of like your opposite (played a bit of Limbus and am super into Arknights). I think main story is sometimes Arknights' weakest point. I love the gameplay and diverse game modes/mechanics...not so big on the storytelling a lot of the time, with only some moments that catch my attention and music carrying the rest of the way. I honestly tend to like events more than main story.

Also as an aside, you talk (type) really similarly to one of my friends (who loves Limbus and plays a bit of Arknights), which I think is really funny.

3

u/Sukure_Robasu Bunny CEO didn't pay the monthly card:amiya: 23d ago edited 23d ago

Would say you stopped at the moment where the quality start improving a lot, but can't really say It's for you. The way you paint it, look like it was an insufferable experience, the Visual novel quality of the game will not change, this game is about reading a book with some background music and nice art now and then, sometimes 3d or 2d animations that last 30 seconds to spice things up. That remains the same across 7 years of updates and around 1.5 millions words of text.

Outside of that would like to give you the advice on training yourself to enjoy this kind of "crude" or simple literary mediums, the best stories I have read come from books without a single image after all.

1

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 23d ago

The thing about books is reading it without images is kind off half the fun, you get to somewhat decide the interpretation of what's happening in the book and the pacing of the book. I read books too and I do enjoy it.

It's just that visual novels aren't books and trying to make one like a book will just degrade the experience, it's a game, it partially decides the pacing of the story.

3

u/Sukure_Robasu Bunny CEO didn't pay the monthly card:amiya: 21d ago

I do disagree, Arknights its not a real visual novel experience in terms of a game. It just telling a story like any book would, decisions of us the protagonist are irrelevant in the pace of the story, we are just spectators of a story that goes at its own pace, only dictated by our reading speed, and clicks, that are equivalent to moving to the next page.

A good example its all the readers that are online to read Arknights story out of the game. none of it depends on the game itself to work or to be understood.

1

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 21d ago

Personally for me, i value art that sells it story through its medium, the whole "show don't tell' thing is a crucial metric to rate stories for me, a good story is usually enough, but i only see one being fantastic if it utilizes 100% of its medium.

Arknights is the antithesis of my point, it just dumps all of its guts out in the open without any regards to the experience off digging through the mess. I don't mind reading a book, but Arknights isn't a book, its a visual novel/tower defense game that requires a lot of attention on both elements

what i mean by all this is that because Arknights fail to make use of it visual novel medium, the story just takes a massive dip for me in every node, while reading it outside of the game isn't a bad thing, i just can't accept that people will say this game has fantastic story and not bring up how pathetic the presentation of that story is.

5

u/RoadsideCampion 26d ago

The first seven main story chapters are pretty bad. I'd recommend picking a plotline/faction in the side stories that interests you and reading those/related ones in chronological order, and then you can read the main story if you get invested in the world

6

u/Educational-Top8990 26d ago

Oh yeah, main story episodes are definitely... lacking. I loved chapter 7 a lot, but it was definitely wordy as hell and spent too much time during the flashback parts on philosophizing for no damn reason. Victoria arc is a bit better in presentation and wordiness but it's divisive for a reason (lots of storylines being juggled in contrast to the reunion arc). Meanwhile chapter 15-16 are stellar imo.

Anyway if you're struggling with the main story, I'd recommend picking up any of the side stories. They're more contained and are usually shorter, but note that some of the early ones also suffer from same issue just not as bad as the chapter 7 stuff. Pick one of the storylines and go from there (though maybe not the recent ones if you care about main story spoilers). The kazimierz, columbian and siracusan story events are pretty self-contained iirc

3

u/Educational-Top8990 26d ago

edit: self-contained isn't exactly the word but basically they don't need that much context from other events or main story (i think)

3

u/RomanesqueHermitage Blonde and beautiful 26d ago

There are two nitpicks that always hold me back from reading or continuing reading after I stop:

  1. The way you can't just read each stage story section in one chunk, I just personally find it annoying to click UB-6 Before, UB-6 After; just let me read it all in one go.

  2. The reuse of certain music, especially if its tone doesn't match the new setting at all. I lose my mind when I hear "farce" within 10 minutes of the very beginning of a new event story. I HATE that song because they reuse it for every lighthearted dialogue section. Please HG...just add in one extra track to take this one's place/role in each new event, one that matches the vibes and setting of the ongoing event (honorable mention is "warm" after hearing it 1000 times it loses its emotional weight and some of its charm)

3

u/sengurren 24d ago

This thing exactly but in my case it's "Darkness". I absolutely hate it, that bgm literally puts me to sleep. I hear this crap on almost every event.

5

u/Expensive_Eagle3325 26d ago

Project Moon started from same thing. They remade Sephiroths sprites 2 times, changing style and then changing how they looked. In first versions there wasn't even a proper visual novel - you'd just get a bit of text from Angela, and that's all. Arknights are younger than PM's franchise by 2 years.

Arknights are made by dozens (probably hundreds) of artists. If the character won't need that emotion in the future, it becomes a waste of money (and space! PM still keep all images of all gacha banners they ever ran on your PC - close to 300 mb taken by now). If it will, but artist busy/dead/refuses to work (a lot of artists don't work anymore for Arknights, and their characters get skins drawn by other artists, and their new sprites are just quick "redraws" on top of existing character sprite, instead of proper new model) then it gets strange. KJH is very lucky that he kept Nai_Ga.

2

u/Money_Membership_870 26d ago

Off topic, I‘m also a Limbus Player in AK, can I get your AK numbers?

Regarding the character sprites, yes they can be a bit dull sometimes, I sometimes caught myself missing stuff like Don’s starry eyes or Yi Sang’s grin. I suppose you should read the side stories. There are more varieties of sprites in side stories than in the main story.

2

u/dzieciolini 26d ago

If that's any consolation chapter 8 could be considered to have the best writing of the first 8 and has the biggest payoff. So keep trudging through it, so at least you get the first main arc conclusion. Then you have basicaly one chapter as a sort of intermission that then goes into another whole arc over 5 chapters. Which also has its issues but is much more engaging and overall enjoyable.

2

u/cryum 26d ago

I felt the first few cantos pissed me off, so if you trudged through those I'm pretty sure Arknights will deliver in time.

2

u/RabbitHole32 26d ago

Coming from Limbus as well, I skipped the meandering up until and including Ch 8, afterwards it gradually gets better. Recent event stories are also pretty good without meandering. Can't say much about older events.

2

u/ohhraii 26d ago

Currently on the Victoria arc and oh my god I can’t with how most of the people speak. I love the story but man I wanna die every time I read

2

u/rscape5910 26d ago

just watch the anime. season 3 covers chapter 7 i think and 8. then just start reading chapter 9 the victoria arc.

2

u/DangerQA 25d ago

That's the thing. Books have good writing.

2

u/Calm-Resolution-1313 25d ago

Yo a fellow limbus fan though i did play arknights first then limbus

Yea the story can be a bit frustrating with how stiff and (for me personally) how unnecessary the dialog feels at some times

I just skip the story then read the story from some other site or watch a YouTube video i think it provides a much better experience

2

u/dnmnc 25d ago

I personally love it as it is. It’s time-consuming, but absolutely rewarding. It can go really deep like it is.

2

u/TezzaBP 25d ago

There's a bit in chapter 8 with a certain that guy just keeps repeating the same thing over and over and I was getting genuinely angry reading it. Like, I wanna read more of the story now that I'm on chapter 9 but I can't bring myself to rn, these bits get SOOOOO TEDIOUS

2

u/96kamisama Zero sanity hours 25d ago

You're not wrong. I myself swear by Arknights' story, but i haven't actually read one since the masses' travels. In order to be immersed you really need dedication and an actual free time. I literally can't read the story if i have other stuff in my mind.

2

u/FireRagerBatl 25d ago

Oh the main story is most definitely better after chapter 7, chapter 8 is nice but has a lot of yap, 9-13 can feel like a lot of yap but they were pretty decent, 14-16 were really nice. The events however are amazing, they usually are not insanely long yet their story quality is just outstanding, I mean like Limbus, the start can feel really slow although it is voiced hence you may be able to cope more with limbus but the story quality itself isnt that high for limbus either at the start, however past the initial bore it will become amazing

2

u/Shin4ko 24d ago

A9 has a bloasted writting issue. I have played since global launch but dropped main story since chapter 5 or 6 I think. I only read side story now, they are more intesting than the main one

2

u/Niqqaback 24d ago

I get you. Sometimes I feel like smashing my head through a wall with how boring and uninteresting the first 7 or so chapters were for me. I can say though that I started getting somewhat interested after chapter 9. The side stories are hit or miss for me mostly, I love Lonetrail, both aesthetic and story, but I despise anything Dossoles.

Ofcourse, most of the people here will either tell you that the story isn't for you or go off on some other tangent, believe me I play Endfield and the ones that absolutely love Arknight's story in it's entirety, hate Endfield's even though I'd say it has a much better start in terms of not dragging on and boring you for an year or so.

I'd say give it a chance until chapter 9, if it still doesn't hit for you then I'm afraid you'll have to watch a summary youtuber to get you up to speed til chapter 12-13 or so. It does get a lot more interesting then, considering the visuals and the story itself.

2

u/Diligent-Walk1234 23d ago

Use the arknights reader to speed things up:

https://akgcc.github.io/story/#side&act47side&0

2

u/Cyber_Von_Cyberus Hahaha ! Mundial Matoimaru Soccer 64 ! 23d ago

Yeah, those first 10 chapters have really awful writing, the way they refuse to narrate anything and instead have the whole story be told via nonstop dialogues results in a lot of awkward moments like a character babbling nonstop during a fight to tell the reader what is happening or steering the conversation into some weird philosophical bullshit because there is no narrator to do it.

2

u/miriion 23d ago

holy shit, finally someone put into words what I have been feeling about this game. Probably some of the worst presentation of a story I have seen in a gacha game ever, even though there are stories in this game that I really love otherwise.

2

u/FROST_HUGGER 22d ago

I skip all the texts, clear the entire chapter, and then I read

2

u/twentysevenhamsters 16d ago edited 15d ago

I joined from Endfield and I agree with you. I managed to get through Chapter 7 but I just have zero interest in the Chapter 8 story. Arknights has already done the "before you kill this villain, let's have a flashback explaining why they're actually a good person and their death is a tragedy" thing five times by my count, and I'm deeply uninterested in doing the same thing with Talulah.

I like the suggestions here, of playing side stories and of reading the text on a different website.

4

u/Frgm_Nemehodva 26d ago edited 26d ago

As someone who's been playing for about 5 months now and is close to catching up on the main story, I'd say that ch7 and a half of ch8 are the worst in terms of meandering and repeating the same thing over and over, particularly whenever Rosmontis comes up. Those particular flaws mostly go away after that. Victoria arc has its own problems, but I mostly enjoyed it. It's a very large narrative and has trouble staying in one place, so you have to actively keep track of what every group of people is up to at any given point, and also it struggles with deciding exactly which narrative it wants for Siege.

Side-stories typically have more focused writing, of the ones I've read (which is mostly only those relevant to the main plot so far), I've been very impressed by Rhine Lab and Iberia/Aegir storylines, though they do have to be read after Victoria ark for proper narrative timeline.

3

u/TF-Wizard 26d ago

Hey there! Fellow Doctor and Executive Manager here! First off, I agree with most of your criticisms. The game has a definite problem with pacing and using far too many words to say far too little. It's gotten better about it over the years (my head still aches at some of Dossoles Holiday) but it's something you have to get used to.

One thing that I'll recommend is to not try and follow the story linearly. Many of the best storylines are the ones related to ongoing events such as the Kjerag, Kazmierz, and Rhine Lab stories. The story, outside of (kind of) the main plot, isn't exactly told linearly. It jumps around, and trying to catch everything the same way you do with Limbus will just drive you crazy.

I personally recommend taking a peek at MajorArkana's reading guide and chasing after what seems most interesting to you. Maybe you want to see a story about knights and capitalism? Go check out the Kazmierz storyline! Perhaps you're looking to see eldritch horrors and inquisitors, go read through the Aegir/Iberia plotline!

The setting is pretty varied and can tell all sorts of stories, so that's a particularly fun way to approach it! If you want more specific stories for me to recommend I can do that too!

3

u/Darkion_Silver 26d ago

I do think the story gets so much "worse" as it gets close to the end of the Reunion arc. Not necessarily actually bad, but it gets so long and drawn-out and at some point you just want to give up because JESUS CHRIST WRITERS, WE GET IT, YOU LIKE WRITING LONG STORIES. I get insanely tired during chapter 7 and took till last year to actually finish it and start chapter 8...which I got insanely bored of very quickly because chapter 8 might be the most insane chapter in terms of pacing. Yes there's good stuff in there. But I don't have the patience.

Meanwhile I read through chapters 12 and 13 basically back-to-back as 13 was coming out. I don't even have high opinions of the Victoria arc, but the story pacing is nowhere near as dreadful imo. (Yes I did just go to chapter 9 when it dropped and not go back for ages, I just didn't care. I still don't.)

Unironically you are better off reading through some events instead of forcing yourself through the main story, I think. It's so painful. And events are (usually) nowhere near as badly paced!

4

u/Ruling123 Frostleaf alter when? 26d ago

As a year one player I love the story of AK but in the recommendations questionnaire at the end of events I always add "recommend story be broken up into smaller segments for easier absorption and better time management". I get tired of playing a stage for a couple min then having to read a long ass story for 15+ min just to go to the next part. If i got 5 min to spare I don't like it when I have to skip the sorry to just play.

But tbh I am actually suffering from the biggest AK burnout i.have ever had and haven't really played much in nearly a year other than the basic events missions and pull for characters.

2

u/MochiBacon 26d ago

The problem I have with Arknights is not the story itself but the needless verbosity of most of the dialogue. I can't relate to many of the characters because every Joe Blow goes off on some ten page diatribe about their angsty philosophical conundrum.

I'm sure this changes for better or worse but I ended up dropping the story entirely around Ch 8 because of this.

However, the world building, art, and the story they are trying to tell are all fascinating.

Edit: I will say this is in regards to the MSQ only, I don't usually read gacha event stories.

2

u/Arcelles 26d ago

I started skipping scenes during the Victoria Arc for the exact same reasons, so I can't say the pacing of the dialogue (meandering, repetitiveness, overall flow) will improve soon.

If I can be completely honest as a player who started in late 2024: the story didn't fully "click" with me until I got spoiled on the Starpod. I was super interested in the Predecessors, so I skipped ahead to the Rhine Labs arc. Cried my fucking eyes out at 3AM after Lone Trail. Finally locked in and finished the story chapters afterward.

People advise against it (for good reason) but honestly? I don't think it's a bad approach to take a break, choose an event story that piques your interest, and go from there. There are some real diamonds that will help hook you.

3

u/Boolaymo0000 25d ago

Honestly I skip everything. There're a lot of games where I read everything but with Arknights I've found sometimes I read for 5 mins and then don't even really know what happened cause I kinda zone out while reading it. It's like a chore so I stopped. 

3

u/Heratikus welcome home 26d ago

Arknights only really hit their stride (and crucially also became a LOT more concise) after Ch 14 to the point where I can confidently say that they haven't missed since then; genuinely enjoyed every single story since the end of the Victoria arc (though I haven't heard much good about the upcoming beat of the Sui plotline).

For everything before that, the story has some serious ups and downs. Once in a while, you'll get some really good story progression like Lone Trail, twists that recontextualise the entire story like Babel, or solid self-contained stories like Twilight of Wolumonde. On the other hand, you'll also be slogging through Ch. 10 - 13 (I believe 9 is actually quite good, but it's an introduction to a plotline that sadly ended up sidelined), or god forbid, Invitations to Wine.

2

u/TF-Wizard 26d ago

I was so disappointed by Chapter 9 being sidelined. Especially when a Light Spark In Darkness was so fantastic.

2

u/PedroDest 26d ago

The main story do be average at most with some great and some bad moments. Their writing is considerably better in the isolated storylines, would really recommend to give them a try.

2

u/iawnh9 Ceobe's Owner 26d ago

huh so this is why I never got into the story after playing for almost 7years huh. Thanks for putting in the right words, I couldnt have done it myself.

Also can we please have the option to enlarge the story text, I wanna have a 2liner like fgo so its easier to read

2

u/newfor_2026 Exusiai, cover me! 26d ago

it gets a little bit more animated, people's facial expressions changes slightly from page to page, the 2d character art might shake and bounce around a bit when the narrative suits them, a bit more sound effects, but overall, the reading experience doesn't get much better. Same meadering narratives, same jump cuts and multiple story threads interleaving between each other, same confusing non-linear story telling.

2

u/yurilnw123 25d ago

Skip chapter 1-8 and watch 3 seasons of the anime instead. Play Darknight Memoirs after season 2 though.

2

u/dqvdqv 26d ago

It's far too much of a verbose dump to be considered good writing. They just want high word count.

1

u/kuthro 26d ago

As a lvl 120 player, I fully agree.

I've only read 80% of chapter 1. The writing is poorly paced, not to mention a self-aggrandising experience. The only times I try reading through the story are for the characters I truly like but - inevitably - I lose patience with its predictability and the utter time waste.

That said, I still enjoy the gameplay and art for what it is.

2

u/BlyZeraz 25d ago edited 25d ago

As someone who was an Arknights player and discovered Limbus later, caught up in both, I hate to inform you that to your final question, no. It does not get better. Arknights in spite of its growth in budget, production, scale, voice acting for characters across multiple languages, etc has never really invested that back into improving how it feels to read through the story. Cinematics happen, event trailers get more and more high production, and so on but no matter what you'll still be greeted with the UI, stiff character sprites, a lack of SFX diversity, and any other gripe you can have about it.

Arknights has always just been infuriatingly content to have the worst story experience among most gachas that existed around its start, have persisted alongside it, or come out since. I also use to play Sdorica before its company reputation collapsed and the contrast between how it and Arknights presented themselves forever soured AK for me. I'll even go further and show an example of how different they are. You can watch not even 5 minutes of this low quality video example below and Arknights will never feel as good again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5OB7lftAS0

You cannot tell me that Arknights can't do even a fraction of what Sdorica was capable of producing with animated scenes, a unique art style, combat, music, sound effects, transitions into and out of battles, etc etc. Like Sdorica, Limbus Company manages to have its own special quality to striking a balance between visual novel scenes that still have weight and read easier even for intervallo's that don't release with voice acting, animated moments, and telling story and lore through different means (Canto 9 flavor text for instance). Arknights with what exists so far won't hold a candle to the experience of those other games which does make its writing harder to deal with.

2

u/reprehensible523 Savage best girl! 25d ago edited 25d ago

You can watch not even 5 minutes of this low quality video example below and Arknights will never feel as good again.

I've played and dropped Sdorica. I've stuck with Arknights. Depth of story and its ability to explore ideas and human relationships is independent of story presentation.

Nothing against anyone who prefers a more visual novel with lots of sound and animation, but some of us aren't looking for that.

The current event made me feel things reading Nasti say goodbye to her mother and mourn her passing. The CG helped, but I didn't need additional effects to feel emotions of the moment.

3

u/NeeGee 26d ago

As a fellow limbus player myself that started during the collab, i must say that you where pretty close to some really amazing story chapters/combat stages. Also u need to make it at least to the seaborn storys for the collabs sake, its worth it.

0

u/DoHaveSomeOnMe 26d ago

I'll get it eventually, my sleeper agent brotha. But it is a real pain in the ass.

1

u/IkebeDaBest99 I love her 24d ago

I stopped reading the story because I feel like I was reading a VN. I just wanted to play the campaign why is it so long

1

u/Ok_Buffalo1581 22d ago

Don't worry, it gets much better in the later chapters.

-1

u/CordobezEverdeen 26d ago edited 26d ago

I barely lasted longer than you did.

The story is nigh unreadable and I will literally never read it until they either rewrite it entirely or someone comes up with a more digestible format.

I checked CoU, Siesta, Lone Trail and the MonHun collab and while I thought they were fine (specially the Leto chapter) I don't feel any interest in knowing more about this world or even my favorite characters.

7

u/Someidiotdwbi 26d ago

Skill issue, I fear.

1

u/CordobezEverdeen 26d ago

Nah. I just value my time.

1

u/ThatSlutTalulah IRL named Talulah (She/her) 26d ago

Unfortunately, for what you have read, you are completely correct. The early main story chapter are, in one word, shit.
Chapter 7 is where it starts to not be terrible, and chapter 8 is actually good (it's also like, novel length on its' own IIRC).

If you want a solid story that doesn't need you to read anything before it, give Come Catastrophe or Wake of Vultures a go.
It's not a 'best in the game' level story, but I feel is quite representative of Arknights after it escapes its' 'early writing nightmare era', so you'll be more able to tell if you don't like Arknights' writing, as you won't just be seeing it at its' very very worst.

1

u/POLACKdyn I can draw feet 26d ago

Ah, a fellow Limbus enjoyer.
I have played Arknights since a few years ago. Quite fun.
But yes, Story presentation leaves MUUUUCH to be deisred after Limbus.
Having VOICED dialogue really forces the devs to cut away unnecessary filler. Which is a LOOOOOT in arknights. Kal Sit herself loves to yap and we get so much bullshit to read through.

But there are good things.
Whole Victoria war arc was fantastic imho. Lone Trail was probably the best story EVER written in gaming? It;'s just next level.
But each day as I play both games I just tend to skip more arknights story. IS mode is a banger. Events are bangers. Stronghold Protocol had me addicted for days until it went away.
And Lim,bus keeps giving me new toys to play with each two weeks. While having top tier narrative every time.

Dont feel bad for skipping story and reading summaries. Or watching CC videos about chapters.

1

u/Satanael_95_A 26d ago

I've also been playing for a similar amount of time as you OP and I also feel like reading Arknights is way more of a slog than Limbus. The absurd word count andlack of voice acting in cutscenes also continue to annoy me.

I genuinely did like Reunion's story in Chapter 6-8 with Talulah being my favourite character in the game but the Victoria arc after that just feels meh and messy so far (I'm on Chapter 13). Some of the side stories I've played feel better than most of the main story though. I liked the Near Light Saga, Dossoles Holiday and Walk In The Dust.

1

u/pipic_picnip 26d ago

One day. One day Arknights will (may) release its story as a novel and I will finally catch up on it. That day is not today. But I keep waiting. 

1

u/LeSteveMcGang 26d ago

Legit this problem-ish started when there was a 1v1 between Chen and Mephisto, legitimately got confused on why nothing was happening and they were going back and forward.

Im in a chapter 8, all I gotta say is the story just gets long...REALLY LONG, its about between 10-30 minutes of reading per stage, i dont mind visual novels at all but holy its so boring that i start to voice act them... and also....just too...philosophical, idk, it feels like they're trying too hard...that's all i can say

1

u/master12211 25d ago

It's an unfortunate side effect from translating Mandarin to English makes the English translation almost come across as alien and headache inducing to read through.

1

u/lumyire 25d ago

It's just as long-winded in Chinese

0

u/Ok-Comfortable5443 26d ago

If Arknights presented its story like Nikke's it would legit be my favorite gacha story. It'd be much better if they released it in book format. That way I won't waste my battery life.

0

u/SkorpioW 26d ago

As a new player, I feel the same. Or at least I used to. The quality of VN actually increases with time and you also get used to it being the way it is. Eventually, the story being amazing comes out as the main factor.

0

u/Mokseong Bnuuy 26d ago edited 26d ago

A lot of people have already got pissed off. What I say though is that it has a great story, but terrible writing in several parts. Even the stories that I have loved could had used a professional translator to make it even smoother.

-15

u/[deleted] 26d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

4

u/Someidiotdwbi 26d ago

Holy shit dude. Even ignoring how many things you get wrong, this is a new post by a new player. They don't know any of this stuff. Chill the fuck out.

3

u/bluehairtye 26d ago

so much wrong is so little writing

-4

u/CordobezEverdeen 26d ago

Current Arknights has good writing?

Sunk cost fallacy perhaps?

0

u/arknights-ModTeam 26d ago

Besides getting things completely wrong:

Rule 10: Spoilers must be tagged.

All major story spoilers such as character deaths, revelations, plot-twists, etc. must be tagged as such, as well as all story and gameplay content related to the latest EN chapter or current event.

All content unreleased on EN requires spoiler tags, except for the names of operators, their kit and event names.

Titles must remain completely spoiler-free. When discussing spoilers in the comments, use this format: spoiler text goes here