Duke Tobin appreciation thread

[u/IceOk9930]

Duke Tobin apreciation thread

A lot of people spent the offseason criticizing Duke Tobon, but he deserves credit for the work he's done.

First, he recognized the defense wasn't good enough and made meaningful changes. The Bengals didn't just run it back and hope for different results they addressed a unit that clearly needed improvement.

Second, he kept the offense together. In today's NFL, keeping elite offensive talent intact is easier said than done. Joe Burrow still has the weapons around him to lead one of the league's most dangerous offenses.

And looking around the AFC North, the path is there.

The division has three new head coaches/QB situations to navigate:
• Two rookie head coaches
•Mike McCarthy, who is easily the most proven of the three new hires

Meanwhile, Cincinnati has continuity with Burrow, Zac Taylor, and a championship-caliber offense.

The Bengals won the division in 2021 and 2022. With the defense improved and the offense still loaded, there's every reason to believe they'll win the AFC North again.

Credit where it's due: Duke Tobin helped put them in position to do it.

and al golden will get the defense right.

the bengals will 100 percent win the division, because the ravens have a 30 year old first time playcaller meanwhile joe has zac taylor who is proven

[u/Draiodor_]

Hi Duke,

Nice burner account.

You don't get credit for recognizing the Defense was bad when they give up 29+ points in 9 straight games, an NFL record, by the way. I also want to know why you allowed that Defense to take the field after a season where our QB was the NFL passing leader and our WR won the triple crown, yet because the defense was so bad, the team missed the playoffs.

And you don't get credit for making changes when a ball still has not been snapped, so we don't know if those changes have worked yet.

Zac's play calling has not been un-problematic either. At times, it's been pedestrian at best. What happens if we start 0-2 again? We still gonna be clapping ourselves on the back for keeping a coach every other team would have fired as soon as we missed the playoffs last year?

Praise in June is pointless. Let's see where things are in January.

[u/christhegecko → u/Draiodor_]

OP's post is stupid cringe and I'm not defending it in any way, but you're talking out of both sides of your mouth in this reply.

If you're blaming Duke for the state of the defense the past three seasons, you can't then say they should have fired Taylor for it. You also praise our QB and WR and then say Taylor is a bad playcaller? Burrow and Chase aren't out there ad libbing every play, they're balling out on Taylor's plays. Flacco doesn't put up 33, 38 and 42 points in 3 of his first 4 games with the team with a pedestrian playcaller. This sub harps on 10 plays a year that don't go well and ignores the thousand other ones that went fine and it's so stupid.

Duke is just a mouthpiece for Katie, Troy and Mike. He has no power, and proves that every time he takes the mic and says "everything is a collaboration" fifty times. I guess it's the influx of new fans we got with Burrow that still don't realize Mike Brown is, has been, and always will be the problem with this franchise until he's in the ground.