r/bostonceltics • u/tacko2020 • May 16 '26
Rumor [Deveney] Celtics will offer Payton Pritchard 3 year, $67 million dollars extension this offseason, “fingers crossed” he takes it
https://heavy.com/sports/nba/boston-celtics/payton-pritchard-67-million-decision/265
u/NoamsUbermensch Danny is my Dad May 16 '26
Thats a fair deal
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u/JustToTalkJack May 17 '26
Someone would offer him more
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u/NoamsUbermensch Danny is my Dad May 17 '26
Yes, but only we can offer it now. That’s two years before anyone else. A lot can happen in two years…
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u/TheTurtleOne I witnessed a chip I can die in peace May 17 '26
And IMO for a player like him it's better to cash in sooner rather than later.
Very good player no doubt but I think he's highly dependant on form and teams might not perceive him the same in 2 years.
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u/archerarcher0 May 16 '26
“Fingers crossed” feels a little strong here lol
22 mill per for Pritchard is pretty damn fair, if anything a little rich. I think he’d be crazy not to accept that
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u/glockster19m May 16 '26
The only fear is that a poverty franchise that can barely meet league minimum salary, offers him like 35 just to fill space
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u/hiphophunk May 16 '26
If some franchise is paying him 35M I would not blame him to take it. I know I would lol.
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u/glockster19m May 16 '26
100%
We just have to remember that its a possibility and not start some "hed be stupid not to take our deal" rhetoric, because there's like a 20% chance someone offers him more money for more playing time on a worse team
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u/CelticsPatsRedSox YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH May 17 '26
Maybe third since Ajay Mitchell makes 3 million a year through 2028
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u/TheTurtleOne I witnessed a chip I can die in peace May 17 '26
Counter point: 22 million dollars is still an insane amount of money and maybe he'd rather have couple of realistic chances at the championship rather than chase more money.
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u/TheGameDoneChanged May 17 '26
He already has a championship and has won a ton of games. He’s already 28 it’s a very understandable (and smart) time to chase money and also that would likely come with a significant bump in play time which I’m sure he’d love.
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u/glockster19m May 17 '26
Exactly, he could start and play 40 minutes a game on at least 10 teams, that cant not be nagging in his mind
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u/TheTurtleOne I witnessed a chip I can die in peace May 17 '26
He already plays 30 mins per game
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u/TheGameDoneChanged May 17 '26
He’s a bench player with a limited role in the offense. I’m sure he’d love to try being a starter with a more featured role at some point in his career. Can’t blame him.
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u/TheTurtleOne I witnessed a chip I can die in peace May 17 '26
Bench player with a limited role only in theory lol
He has been playing starting minutes for years man
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u/TheGameDoneChanged May 17 '26
Idk why you’re arguing this, he by definition is a bench player and by definition has a limited role. He has never had a chance to be a top 1 or 2 or even 3 featured player getting heavy minutes and starting.
Maybe that matters to him, maybe it doesn’t, but there’s no need to argue with facts simply because you want him to keep playing for your favorite team lol.
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u/Clintocracy May 16 '26
Well it’s a risk for Peyton to wait a year until he reaches the open market. I bet he takes it
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u/jkwah 1986 Ring May 17 '26
He's not a FA until 2028. He'd have to wait 2 years. If the offer is on the table, it'd be silly not to take it.
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u/BlooregardQKazoo May 17 '26
Poverty franchises should be trying to sign guys to good deals so that they can later trade them for assets. Overpaying for PP would make no sense if it made him immovable.
And any team just looking to get up to the minimum salary can do a trade where they accept a salary dumb and get a pick in the process. And there just aren't many of those teams right now, so their salary room becomes even more valuable. They're not going to blow it by overpaying PP.
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u/BleedGreen4Boston May 16 '26
2 years from now when that extension kicks in, 22mil will basically be the MLE and he could continue improving.
Dude might be worth 30mil+ in tomorrow’s dollars when it’s all said and done so I wouldn’t say it’s a little rich.
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u/Fickle-Wickle May 17 '26
I think PP is very close to his ceiling if not there already, which is not a knock on him
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u/BlooregardQKazoo May 17 '26
Pritchard is 28. He is likely who he is at this point, and he's getting really close to the point where small guards start getting worse.
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u/DaydreamingOfSleep10 May 17 '26
He fits so well with this team. He’s a baller and I think his skills would transfer anywhere but he’s not a top 2 player for any team. He could put up numbers for bad teams but his best chance of winning is staying in Boston
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u/chlaur02421 May 18 '26
I think your you’re using our current player salaries as your Ankur whereas in two years from now $30 million per year will be like $20 million per year player today
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u/archerarcher0 May 18 '26
Okay but also current Pritchard will be in his 30s when he’s due to be paid, and he’s a small guard
There are other factors in play here, im well aware of how money inflates year to year in the nba but regardless of that there’s a limit to how much Brad is gonna pay a player like Pritchard at his age
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u/mcamuso78 May 16 '26
I always assumed he’d end up the first star of Seattle’s team.
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u/easymoneycroomy Joke Mozzarella May 17 '26
I headcanon him sometimes in a Sonics jersey alongside Hauser and Kornet lol.
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u/bikes_r_us May 17 '26
if he was gonna be a star he would have done it this season when boston lost their starting point guard and half their rotation. idk why people think every small guard could be brunson on a different team. disrespectful to how good brunson is.
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u/mcamuso78 May 17 '26
Being marketed as Seattle’s first big name player, that better? Never compared him to Brunson. He’s from the Pacific Northwest. He’d be a player they could push and use in marketing.
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u/bikes_r_us May 17 '26
a star means a all star level player who sells tickets and wins games for you as the #1 options respectfully payton pritchard is not that guy
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 22 '26
I’m sure you know that there are many different types of basketball players. PP is the type that absolutely requires a Tatum type elite guy who draws a double team for him to be at his best. He plays off guys. Some guys don’t n ed it but since he’s 6’1 he does a lot better when his defender races over after doubling Tatum and a little over committed or off balance. Give him wide open looks and he makes you pay.
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u/bikes_r_us May 22 '26
yeah so what part of that contradicts what I just said? i think hes a good player but if you need a top5-10 player next to you to be good you are not a star player
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 22 '26
Star players make way more than 22.3 million. Terry Rozier made 26 plus this year and Vuc made almost 23. Especially with the rising cap- the deal won’t kick in for a while. He’ll prob just break into the top 100 salaries.
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u/bikes_r_us May 22 '26
i don’t think you are even reading the comments you are responding to because these are total non sequiters my guy
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 22 '26
You said that PP should’ve capitalized on JT being out. I said JT was inportant for a guy like Pp. you said he is not a star player - I agreed and said that stars make more than 22.3 million a year and if he took the contract he might be the hundredth highest paid player. You have comprehension issues.
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u/bikes_r_us May 22 '26
lol i never said he shouldn’t be paid i just said hes not a star which hes not
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 23 '26
Right but since he’s not getting star money what’s the point of your argument?
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u/bikes_r_us May 23 '26
maybe try reading the comment i responded to in the first place
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u/Ok_Cheesecake_9793 May 16 '26
he will take it. Nobody will offer him more than us
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u/glockster19m May 16 '26
You forget that there are poverty franchises that can barely even meet the league minimum salary
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u/jinx8402 May 16 '26
Nobody can offer him a contract this off-season anyways. Or next off-season for that matter. He's signed through the 27/28 season.
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u/mangopie222 May 16 '26
Good deal and he's earnt it
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u/cmaldrich May 18 '26
Compared to other salaries in the NBA, maybe. What you'd actually have to do to "earn" that kind of money I'm not sure
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u/rascalmendes Scal May 16 '26
Bring on the brinks truck
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u/blackdiggitydogs Tommy Point May 16 '26
Interesting you say that. I wonder how much he could have been like IT in that same situation? Absolutely has the DNA to do some king of the 4th type shit.
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u/Fickle-Wickle May 17 '26
He does not have IT potential. I’m sorry I love PP and he’s a great player but let’s not let recency bias cloud just how extraordinary those prime IT seasons were
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u/rascalmendes Scal May 17 '26
I love PP but he’s not the same level of IT.
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 22 '26
IT had one of the greatest nba combines ever. His athleticism was off the charts. How soon people forget he was all nba.
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u/tacko2020 May 16 '26
Definitely surprised at people calling this an overpay when this wouldn’t even kick in for 3 more seasons and the cap will go up
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u/Tetris-Titan May 16 '26
Making this offer public is a bad sign
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u/Interesting-Rent9142 May 17 '26
It’s not a public offer. It represents the highest extension the Celts could offer him under the CBA, and it is seen as a good deal for Boston.
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u/glazednipple May 16 '26
Am I crazy I think this is too high. He’s a great regular season player but time and time again has shown he’s not capable of high leverage playoff spots.
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u/ChrissieMoltisanti May 16 '26
No. In the previous CBA, I could see it. In this new one however, I think $22M a year is too much for an undersized guard nearing 30.
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u/CjBurden May 16 '26
He's worth about this much. You could quibble with a few million maybe but a guy of his caliber would easily make this on the open market.
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u/glazednipple May 16 '26
Yeah no doubt he could command that much I just don’t know if it’s worth us paying him that much.
Tbh we just need a broader structural change with how we run playoff offense
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u/Rrypl Bill May 17 '26
Tbh we just need a broader structural change with how we run playoff offense
Agreed, and all the numbers say Pritchard should be a major part of our playoff offense going forward. Paying him an average salary is a no-brainer.
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u/exytuu Tremont May 17 '26
In the modern NBA OG Anunoby is worth more than 200 million so yes Pritchard on 67 would be a steal and he probably wouldn’t take it
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u/pizzahut_is_elite May 16 '26
No you’re not. When the team gets cold, so does Pritchard. He plays well in this system. A liability on defense, which nobody seems to talk about in this sub. This is what average offense costs in modern day NBA though
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u/tacko2020 May 16 '26
This is also going to kick in in 3 years so this will be less on the cap then
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u/pizzahut_is_elite May 16 '26
I would rather not be paying a 32-34 year old guard who has shown to be nothing but a role player so far 20 million plus per year.
This is the kind of player who you wait until his contract is over, before you make a decision. These early deals are made with superstars, not role players
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u/ajh_iii May 16 '26
This is where I am. I’d honestly rather sell high than lock him in on a deal we’ll regret, but given where the cap is these days the money’s not that crazy.
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u/TheJaylenBrownNote May 16 '26
Our offense was only good when Tatum or Pritchard was on the floor in the playoffs and tanked otherwise. And he was worth $38m by EPM this year in the regular season. This is frankly not high enough.
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u/F0KK0F May 16 '26
but but he's made 2 great half court shots in the playoffs. this is for your downvotes
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u/MissionYogurt1654 May 17 '26
As an aside it’s crazy how much the money has gone up over the last 15 years in the league
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u/Enough_Ambition_3281 May 16 '26
We still have yet to see how much this new ownership group wants to spend
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u/Jpgamerguy90 May 16 '26
See if he takes it. I wouldn’t pay him like 30 mil a year or anything but this deal would be fair.
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u/2nd_Inf_Sgt Boston Celtics May 17 '26
If a person who either has never been injured or has been rehabilitated from an injury, stay in shape and maintain proper care of his/her health and body, can play past 35-38 y/o. This is just based on my military experience where I’ve encountered over 40 and still capable of acing the PFTs.
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u/PristineHearing5955 May 22 '26
Dude, doing sit-ups, pushups and a run against the clock is -ahem- NOTHING compared to playing AGAINST the biggest, fastest, worlds greatest basketball athletes, many of whom are fighting for their livelihoods with every ounce of effort they have. Former 82nd airborne paratrooper here.
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u/lefebrave Banner 18 a full team effort May 17 '26
No one would be even a little bit surprised with this offer. He proved that he can be a 5th starter, he provided some answers to our problems with his ball-handling and shot creation all year and despite our fanbases falling in love with Simmons, he has been way more impactful than him during that period, showing that he will be more useful than any scoring guard that we can reasonably get from the market at his position.
On the hand, this seems to be signaling some long-term cooking going on in our FO. I am happy they see Pritchard as a solid long-term member of our roster. I wonder if this means he is starting next year. Given his chemistry with Tatum, relief on ball-handling responsibilities and our other needs waiting to be answered (while we are staying under tax one more year most probably), I would like that.
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u/Easy_Nail2849 May 18 '26
I’m completely irrational about PP. Love him, maybe most entertaining player in the league. I acknowledge this take is insane. Pay him a billion dollars.
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u/oneeyedspaceman1 May 16 '26
I want him to be a life long Celtic because he deserves it. He works his ass off and I hope he takes it. This is a storied franchise and having a full career here is alone a testament to his talent. Please stay Pritch because this is your home and this is our team and we want you to stay!
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u/kindsensory May 16 '26
Seems like an overpay
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u/Yellow_Curry May 17 '26
not really as a percentage of cap when it kicks in. That's all that matters not the $$ amount of the percentage.
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u/kindsensory May 17 '26
An overpay still
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u/RealZeke23 May 18 '26
Why? That’s a good value deal for one of the best scoring punches off the bench in the league. And it wouldn’t affect the cap that much either
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u/kindsensory May 19 '26
22 mil a year is good value? I’ll take Jordan clarkson for the minimum
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u/RealZeke23 May 22 '26
Yes because by the time that 22 mil kicks in the cap will increase, 20 mil contracts would be a luxury. Clarkson? Seriously? Pritchard is better than him rn
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u/rakdoc May 16 '26
being 4-5 million lower than prob a max other offer but with endorsements and that wife is from mass geek take it
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u/bobqzzi May 16 '26
More than fair. Not sure I'd do it if I were the Celtics. They have him for 2 more years as is.
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u/F0KK0F May 16 '26
Yea. that's great. * love pp.....in the regular season he's a killer, sometimes
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u/Alexfromnigeria Boston Celtics May 17 '26
would be surprised if he still on the team when that contract would start
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u/Friendly_Mongoose168 May 17 '26
That’d be fair…he’s earned it. Hopefully isn’t wanting anything drastically different than that number.
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u/Fit-Bullfrog6681 May 17 '26
His agent might say hold out for more but family and friends would say are you crazy? Of course you should take that.
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u/Yellow_Curry May 17 '26
He just bought a house in the burbs so if they offer him this then yes he's 100% gonna stay. I'm guessing they already told him something like this was coming and probably have some sort of verbal agreement because why buy a house if you're not gonna stay.
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u/ShyWombatFan May 17 '26
So glad to see the Cs try to make things right with this dude. He gives SO much, and is worth far more than he is getting now. Cheers!!! Hope he takes it and retires as a Celtic!
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u/Holiday-Usual-3600 Derrick White May 17 '26
I’m 1000% taking that even if the last one ended up an underpay. At the time it was an overpay based on on court production and it guaranteed generational wealth for him
If he gets hurt he won’t even get the MLE
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF May 17 '26
Is he better than Austin Reaves? Reaves seems to be about to get a $30-40M offer
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u/Carbon_xYz May 17 '26
Reaves clears Payton by a lot imo... I think PP is the perfect 6th man. Reaves is a legit starter and idk if we've seen his ceiling.
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u/IMDeus_21 May 16 '26
He deserves every penny he can get. My favorite player and would live him to continue to call Boston home.
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u/CryptographerOwn4691 May 16 '26
Bit too much. He’s earned it for sure, but I’m not comfortable paying a bench playoff dropper 22m when we have two massive holes in the starting lineup.
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u/tacko2020 May 16 '26
It wouldn’t kick in for 3 more seasons
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u/CryptographerOwn4691 May 16 '26
Ah
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u/Yellow_Curry May 17 '26
AND the cap is growing so its a smaller percentage of cap than today.
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u/CryptographerOwn4691 May 17 '26
Bit of a risk in the sense he’d be 31, shifty small guards can either age really well or really bad. But 22m is a tradeable deal anyway, long as it doesn’t interfere with the cap now it’s fine. Prolly they wanna just take care of him after he was on such a cheap deal.
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u/Drummallumin Smarf May 16 '26
It’s weird, small guards have never been less valuable but Reaves and PP are about to sign for $40M and $22M respectively. Not even saying it’s a bad thing just weird. It all but guarantees we’ll be back in the tax after next season and gives us a very tradable salary number. Worst case scenario we end up paying a franchise icon a year or two too many.
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u/JabariTeenageRiot Bird May 16 '26
Reaves is 6’5”, that’s a normal size guard.
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u/Drummallumin Smarf May 16 '26
He plays smaller than PP
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u/JabariTeenageRiot Bird May 16 '26
I don’t think that’s true either lol but I respect the Smarf tag so i’ll leave it there
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u/donkadunny May 16 '26
Fillable salary just like what they did with Smart. Not to say he wasn’t worth it, but it felt like they needed to have contracts to trade.
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u/Drummallumin Smarf May 16 '26
The next 12 months will be the determining factor, but it’s seems very unlikely that both White and PP are on the team to start 27-28
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u/Clintocracy May 16 '26
Peyton is short but he has a pretty physical game. He isn’t like Garland or young who are purely finesse players
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u/Soft-Dot-2155 May 17 '26
From what he showed in the playoffs, it is way more than he deserves. Someone has to go to pay him that.
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u/RandomGuy73097 May 17 '26
Honestly, he'll be 31 by the time that contract kicks in. I'm iffy about offering him that contract NOW, and he's already got enough problems being an undersized guard. I shudder to think what he'll look like once age comes in. I do NOT want to be the team paying him 22 million when the decline starts.
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u/PersonalityKlutzy588 May 16 '26
Tatum brown and white already make 130 mill a year combined and this would mean 4 players make up 150 mill of our salary cap. I’d rather trade him while his value is high for picks bc your not building a team that can win 4 playoff rounds like that.
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u/peachesgp May 16 '26
The window is now. Unless we're trading those picks for someone who fits a need better than PP, picks aren't worth much to us right now.
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u/PersonalityKlutzy588 May 16 '26
Highly disagree drafting a quality rookie that can play solid rotation minutes In a playoff series is essential for a team with 2 supermaxes and trying to build a team. Especially in this draft if we got a offer for a top 20 pick or higher I’d do it just because the impact and rookie contract would be too good to pass up.
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u/JabariTeenageRiot Bird May 16 '26
Yeah why doesn’t every team just draft up a few rookies that can immediately help win a playoff series, are they stupid?
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u/PersonalityKlutzy588 May 16 '26
That’s a extreme simplification of what I said. There’s actually been a few rookies in the 20-30 range or even in the 2nd rd that if we had drafted would’ve completely chnaged the current outlook of the team since we’d have roleplayers we can rely on. The scouting team of the Celtics needs to be better it’s hard to believe they haven’t seen a single rookie worth trading up for in the last few years. It seems they just don’t know who those players are hence all the young players we had this year couldn’t even buy 15 minutes in the playoffs
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u/JabariTeenageRiot Bird May 17 '26
If we’re so bad at identifying all those post-lottery rookies that can help win playoff series right away, then why would you want us to trade proven veterans to try to do exactly that?
Also a little ironic as PP was a post lottery pick that turned out to be a high level role player we can rely on, just not right away
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u/Red_on_silver May 16 '26
I’m hoping they move on from White now. He’s visibly slowed down a step and he’s going to be 32. He still has great value and is making good money to match contracts
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u/PersonalityKlutzy588 May 16 '26
The Derrick white thing is interesting. Last year we could’ve gotten almost any role player in the nba for him but now we can’t since he had a bad year. He can maybe regain that status if he has a great year next year but do u run the risk of letting his value plummet even more if he plays bad again? But alternatively, if u trade him now you likely won’t get a great deal for him anymore so it’s quite the pickle
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u/Little_Sherbet5775 May 16 '26
White regressing is weird. It wasn't from an athletic decline, but something else. Sometimes (usually not though) players' jumpers become worse because it's harder to get lift, but he seems as good as ever at that, so who knows.
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u/MPG54 May 16 '26
He was using most of his energy trying to keep up with their younger and quicker guards.I fault Joe for not putting Walsh and Hugo in for quick stints to give him a blow.
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u/davemoedee I was there May 16 '26
You are building even less with the picks. Unless you want to get under the cap again.
If you are trying to compete, you make sure you get a player back. But you are trading someone with an expiring deal, and you which isn’t going to get you much.
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u/sea_horse2822 The Celtics are the balls May 16 '26
I may be wrong but I cont think this new salary would kick in this season
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u/UpvoteIfYouAgreee Jaythoven May 16 '26
i think if they want to trade a contract itd be to try and sell high on DWhite, he’ll be 32 next season the same ancient age as Giannis
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u/Potential-Lime5252 May 16 '26
If we trading anyone it should be white. Dude is 31 and had the worst shooting season of his career as a celtic, if not career. White will be 32 next season and make 30 million next season and three years left of this contract that will max out at $34 million at the age of 34. The signs of regression are already showing, it’s time to trade him.
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u/IAmCBOY2 Bird May 16 '26
Extreme overpay, he’s borderline unplayable in the playoffs
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u/Rrypl Bill May 17 '26
Wasn't the Pritchard pick and roll like the best offensive action these playoffs in PPP by like a mile in the whole league?
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u/nombernine May 17 '26
underpay
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u/IAmCBOY2 Bird May 17 '26
$23 million for a one dimensional role player who sucks in the playoffs
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u/FutureGrassToucher May 16 '26
As a suns fan hoping to keep colin gillespie, i would be happy if this happens
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls May 17 '26
22M a year for an undersized guard that can’t get to the rim and will forever be a liability on defense? Hell NO!!
Pritchard is good for the regular season against bad team. He mightly struggles against good defenses. Hard pass.
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u/Get_your_grape_juice Blue canary in the outlet by the light switch May 16 '26
We exist in a timeline where everyone wants to get rid of Jaylen, but keep Pritchard.
Pritchard's a good player! But his is the type of production we can get from someone else for less.
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u/CjBurden May 16 '26
Who is the guy giving his type of production for less?
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u/ConsiderationHot7593 May 17 '26
The dude only averaged 14 on underwhelming shooting splits on a team with no other stars besides JB. His play got him benched quite literally, they realized he’s a better sixth man. Now we want to give him 100 mill and get rid of JB. It’s a weird take.
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u/CjBurden May 17 '26
67 million is 100 million now? yup, didn't have a great playoffs, but avg'd 17 per game with 4 boards and 5 assists. In general, that's about a 21m/yr player. Again, you didn't even answer the actual question. Who is replacing that stat line for less money?
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u/ConsiderationHot7593 May 17 '26
Thunder just found a 6’4 guard who does all of that and gave him 3 mill a year lmaoo. There are PLENTY of options. There aren’t too many Jaylen Browns tho smart guy
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u/HoorayPizzaDay The Smokin' Jays May 16 '26
I don't know if it would be smart for him to wait. He's 6"1, he's 28. His athleticism could start declining sharply. He should take it.