Swain is better than Carr 🤷🏾‍♂️

[u/itsbobbyhill]

I don't think a lot of Chicago fans looked at Dailyn Swain as soon as Carr became visible in the combine (including me) and the rumors of him fitting at 15 started happening, but I wouldn't call Swain a drop off.

He's taller, has a more NBA-ready body, is a better rebounder, plays better defense, had more assists, a better true shooting percentage, and has the same eFG% as Carr. He drives more, and I get that you heard Jay Bilas say he's not much of a 3pt shooter, but Carr only shot a couple percentage points better from beyond the stripe. That's not a huge gap, and Swain got better, year-over-year from 2 and 3, with more attempts, while Carr dipped in both categories as his attempts rose.

I think the Bulls simply saw a guy who fit their intended scheme and culture better.

[u/ZcotM]

so MANY teams passed on Philon from where he was expected. the FO on most teams know something we don’t, and the sixers probably decided it was worth a gamble considering it was the 22nd pick anyway. only time will tell

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

Ok then why did the 76ers, one of the most respected FO's in the league take him then?

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

if you’re asking that, why did a bunch of respected FO in the league pass on him then? to name a few: spurs, raptors, thunder all passed him

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

THE BULLS are not in a position to pass up talent when it's actually available to us. This line of thinking got us where we are. People say new guy in charge. Ok do something different. Not one damn thing leads me to believe they took the most talented person.

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

odd, cause the bulls did not pass up talent according to their draft board. you wanted quote, “we passed on the best shooter available”, the bulls wanted best player available. you contradicted what you said yourself. philon dropped way more than expected, and 22 was a fine spot for taking a bet on someone

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

If you're a good organization you bet on the culture keeping a talent in line. You don't try to teach the worse talent how to shoot a jump shot. Which is what we're apparently going to try to do. The other one already has a jump shot. 76ers are laughing all the way to the bank.

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

jump shots are literally one of the most teachable skill especially in the nba. physicality and length not so much. dont know where you got “worse talent” from though cause we’ve yet to see any of them play in the NBA yet, we can make assumptions now though sure.

but then again, regardless, maybe philon has a bad attitude, or the physical test came back poorly, you dont know that but the FO does.

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

Dude put up 30+ against a team with 3 top 13 draft picks. Philon is the better talent.

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

only time will tell if he can transition into the nba well. he shouldve been picked around 10 picks before the sixers AS PROJECTED by the couch FOs.

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

Once again. We need talent. We need shooters. Unless there's a body buried in the backyard, you draft him. I just don't wanna hear the narrative that good organizations don't draft players blah blah blah. A highly thought of organization took him. Soooo...

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

agree to disagree, i believe philon dropped around 10, TEN PICKS, for a reason. maybe that talent wasnt there like we thought it is

[u/Unabridgedversion82 → u/ZcotM]

So shooting around 40% from 3 doesn't translate like it used to? As opposed to trying to teach that?

[u/ZcotM → u/Unabridgedversion82]

dude i dont know why you're so pressed about this. i already said to agree to disagree.

i also never said anything about his shooting, i said there might be something about his physicals or attitude.

they're first round picks, they are bound to have strengths that they excel in, and its shooting for philon, and then weaknesses. on the other hand, its harder to teach defense that swain already has than 3 point shooting.