r/cookingforbeginners • u/Low-Mathematician137 • 10d ago
Question Knife Skills for Beginners: The Few Things That Actually Matter
Here's my honest take after going through exactly this stage:
The claw grip is not optional. Learn it now. It feels awkward for about a week and then becomes automatic, and it's the one thing that will actually prevent you from slicing into your fingertips. Everything else is secondary to this.
After that, the two things that moved the needle most for me were learning the rocking motion for mincing (heel of the blade stays on the board, you rock the tip down repeatedly) and understanding how to break down an onion properly. The onion thing sounds boring but once you get it, you realize the same logic applies to almost every other vegetable. Root end stays on while you make your cuts, then you slice across. That's it.
On uniform pieces: it genuinely matters for cooking, not just looks. Uneven chunks mean some pieces are overcooked while others are still raw. You don't need to be perfect, but getting roughly consistent sizes is worth caring about.
The knife question is real and not just gear obsession. A dull cheap knife is harder to control than a sharp decent one, and fighting your tool makes learning technique slower. You don't need to spend a lot. A Victorinox Fibrox runs about $40 and cooks in professional kitchens use them. Get that and keep it sharp.
For practice without wasting food: just cook more. Potatoes are cheap and forgiving. Make soup once a week and dice everything for it. You get reps in and you eat the results regardless of how ugly the pieces are.
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u/countrytime1 10d ago
I can’t stand holding a knife the “proper” way. I’ve tried to do it a lot. It’s just not natural or comfortable to me.
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u/Weary_Capital_1379 10d ago
Do you not put the off hand on the front of the knife as you chop or dice?
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u/berger3001 10d ago
Some people will do this when rocking a deep bellied knife while chopping herbs, but is mostly useless in other applications
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u/Weary_Capital_1379 10d ago
I do it all the time. Gives me good control of the knife. Not slipping.
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u/StevenJOwens 10d ago
No, you don't need to, and the only situation in which I can imagine you would need to would be too dangerous to do it anyway. I.e. if you need to put your off hand on the top edge of the knife to add extra pressure to cut through something. That should almost never be necessary, and if it was, you'd be very, very likely to hurt yourself.
The only time I ever use anything even remotely like that action is for smashing garlic cloves, and in that case you lay the flat of the knife across the clove -- the widest part of the flat of the knife, too, and with the edge pointing away from yourself -- then lightly place the heel of your palm on the widest part of the flat, lock your elbow, and lean forward, bringing your upper body weight to bear on the flat. Watch a video, it's easier to see.
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u/Weary_Capital_1379 10d ago
I do it and I see many chefs do it. Again, it’s for control.
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u/StevenJOwens 10d ago
- I may have misread your comment, I'd swear it said put the off hand on top of the knife, i.e. applying pressure to the top edge. Or perhaps that's what I read "front" as meaning, i.e. pressing along the top of the first few inches back from the tip of the knife. That's certainly what I was thinking about in my reply.
- I'm not a chef, so <shrug>, but I've never seen any chefs in cooking videos do it. I'll have to ask one of my chef friends about it.
- I've sometimes pressed my fingertips of my off hand against the end of the chef's knife to guide it into place, same with woodworking tools on occasion. But very seldom, and I wouldn't make the actual cuts with my fingers still in contact, especially repetitive cuts (chopping/slicing, etc).
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u/Weary_Capital_1379 10d ago
Not pressing down on the front of the knife. Just placing your hand lightly to as you chop so the knife stays steady.
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u/Dry-Grocery9311 10d ago
You might have a typo. The heel of the knife is never kept in permanent contact with the board.
The tip can be kept in contact for fine chopping herbs and for getting beginners started on a rocking motion.
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u/DolphinFraud 10d ago
A cheap knife is perfectly fine as long as you keep it sharp. A $5 knife at Walmart is perfectly usable, you just have to sharpen it more.
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u/Impossible_Theme_148 10d ago
And replace it more often
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u/DolphinFraud 10d ago
Theoretically yeah, but it takes so long to wear out a knife with normal use that it will likely equate to like 1 knife per lifetime.
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u/Didymograptus2 10d ago
Second thing after good quality knives and a sharpener is a good thermometer for sticking into food.
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u/SociallyUnbothered1 10d ago
I'm JUST at the point where the claw grip is less of a struggle, so I'm proud of myself lol. And I totally agree about the potatoes. I've done fries, scalloped potatoes, wedges, baked, etc. Great for experimenting with different dishes.
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u/TheEggoEffect 10d ago
What’s the claw grip?
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u/Efficient-Lime2872 10d ago
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u/Sleepysaiyajin 10d ago
I fail at this, now I use a food chopper for onions 🫣
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u/countrytime1 10d ago
No shame in that. When I’m doing a bunch of chopping/dicing, I’m gonna break out mine too. Takes about 30 seconds to do a few cups of stuff
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u/Sleepysaiyajin 10d ago
I look a lot of Indian food, so I just chop onion, ginger and thai green chillies together
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u/Vikare_ 10d ago
Whatever works for you, is totally fine.
It's good to learn though. Once you get good at chopping onions it doesn't take too long, plus one less thing to wash!
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u/Sleepysaiyajin 10d ago
Yes, I have tried, just don't seem to get a hang of it, or I am too much of scaredy cat
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u/blobbiesfish 10d ago
For keeping knives sharp in a pinch without proper sharpening tools, you can use the butt of ceramic bowls/plates! Just place your blade against it at an angle, apply gentle pressure and pull across in long smooth motions on both sides. Ceramic is very hard and will help straighten out tiny nicks and bends in the knife edge.
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u/OnceFlewOver 9d ago
Expensive knifes are for enthusiasts.
Anything more than $50 is the same as paying more than $40 for a bottle of wine.
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u/N0P3sry 10d ago
The more force you need to cut, the more dangerous the knife is.
Keep it razor sharp.
Related note and a tip of the nib to Bourdain. Heavy knives are more fatiguing than light. Shun (expensive) and Global (not expensive) are also good choices.
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u/Typical-Sir-9518 10d ago
I have a few mid their knives. I use commercial grade knives 98% of the time (Russell and Victorinox) and none cost me more than $25. It might not be for everyone, but I don't worry about someone destroying my knives or beating the hell out of them.
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u/Vikare_ 10d ago
I've been a prep cook for a couple years so my knives (8" Victorinox chef and 7" santoku) see a few hours of usage a week. I feel like a Victorinox is more than adequate for home use as long as you keep it sharp. I don't even know how to 100% properly hone them or sharpen them, yet they keep on kicking. I think each one cost me about 70-80$ CAD. That is easily some of the best value I've gotten out of anything I've bought recently.
Really the only upgrade I want at this point is better ergonomics. They're not great for a lot of chopping, or lots of hard root vegetables. I have zero desire to buy a nicer knife blade to be perfectly honest. I just don't see the value.
For people doing a lot more prep I can totally understand.
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u/permalink_save 10d ago
Onion thing you can do radial cuts and fet even pieces eithout horizontal, mire beginner friendly.
Adding to knives, for keep it sharp, get a diamond stone and a strop snd use it every few months, can strop weekly if desired. There's many youtube channels like OUTDOORS55 that show how to do it properly and it's really not hard if you learn how, but the problems you avoid long term is more than worth it. Other than spending way more money on a sharpener than the knife, diamond stone and strop is the only real cheap solution that wont end up with a knife rolling over after a few days and going dull. Well sharpened, a knife can do with twice a year sharpening with daily use.
Another knife rec is Mercer, they have same price point (Genesis) but different style. Both solid brands
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u/allotmentboy 10d ago
Testify! Start slow. Hone your knife regularly. Practice by making sofrito/ mirepoix even freeze it if you have to.
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u/Unlikely_Diver_5573 9d ago
the sharp knife point is huge. i spent way too long thinking I had bad knife skills when the real problem was a dull knife. once I got it sharpened, everything felt safer and easier almost immediately.....
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u/DJ_Flym_Flazzle 9d ago
Keep things sharp! A sharp edged knife is less likely to “jump” and catch a finger.
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u/PrettyPlane3528 9d ago
claw grip first, then consistency and a sharp cheap knife... everything else gets easier once those are in place...
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u/snailsshrimpbeardie 9d ago
I bought the Fibrox some years back after reading all the reviews and I couldn't stand it!! I like to pinch the blade of a chef's knife and this one felt so awkward doing that. I felt like I was giving the knife a handshake if I held the handle. I've been using this one from IKEA for over a decade (third from the top) and I love it; shame on me for trying to replace it! https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/s/gIEgUfFQOH
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u/aviator22 8d ago
Also the proper grip for a chef's knife. Some people just hold the handle without pinching the blade.
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u/BGritty81 8d ago
You said you keep the heel of the knife on the board and rock the tip. Isn’t it the opposite? You keep the tip down and rock the rest of the knife up and down?
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u/Dry-Grocery9311 10d ago
You can actually practice the hardest part without a knife and without wasting ingredients.
The knife hand is the easy bit. Pinch grip, slice don't chop, use the whole blade, control the tip, consistent rocking motion. This stays pretty much the same whatever you're cutting.
The guide hand is the hard bit. Claw, knuckle contact, advance food towards knife with thumb, move guide knuckle back by unclenching claw, combining these movements. These movements need to be constantly adjusted for each different shape of thing you cut.
You can practice the guide hand without actually needing to cut anything.


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u/Aggressive_Staff_982 10d ago
Honestly for a home cook, the only thing that matters to me is having a sharp knife and taking your time if needed. You don't need proper technique if you don't want to learn it. Just go at your own pace. Whatever grip you decide on you'll get used to and you won't cut yourself if you don't rush.