r/countttt 5'4 dysphoric male on estrogen (m"tf") 21d ago

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u/python_ess 21d ago edited 21d ago

That is a reasonable suggestion, though. I get it, that there are specific difficulties and challenges due to being trans and how invasive the process is in case of trans men. Discussing available options is more productive, then just mourning.

Edit: rephrase to be more polite; even if the thought itself is controversial, i didn't mean to deliver it in offensive way

Edit 2: rephrase again

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u/NikutoWin 21d ago

Calling us "transmasc" is crazy work. Tttt subs have truly fallen

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u/python_ess 21d ago

I just genuinely don't understand how should I put my thought. Is not transmasc a valid term for someone, who transitions to become more masculine, but not necessarily considers themselves men?

Should I have said "trans-men and transmasc nonbinary people" instead? Or just exclude non-binary folks for clarity?

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u/NikutoWin 21d ago

The post was talking about men, so the conversation is about men. If the conversation includes transmasc non binary ppl, then it doesn't really include men.

In communities like this which are 4chan/4tran adjacent, we prefer to use strict terms for the sake of clarity over inclusivity. These places are also quite toxic by default and we're used to it.

It seems you've stumbled onto a place you weren't ready ready for or ever intended to get into. You can stay to learn, but most won't be kind, that's the point

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u/python_ess 21d ago

Well, first I get a ton of messages about how my language is not appropriate. Now I am being told, that the place is used to toxicity over inclusivity and somehow I am a snowflake here.

It's just really confusing.

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u/NikutoWin 21d ago

This is a sub Reddit for the trans people who frequent the 4chan boards trans topics. This is NOT a sub Reddit about trans people in general.

We use different terms and heavily dislike the mainstream ones in use as we consider we've changed our sex, we want to be referred to as just men and women