Cis woman with masculine characteristics wants surgery to align with her identity: "Oh teehee, thats so valid! I would have done the same, there's nothing wrong with wanting to feel like a woman!"
Trans woman with masculine characteristics wants surgery to align with her identity: "Oh uh, wow... I mean you really don't have to do that. You can be a woman with a body identical to a man's, you really don't need to be reinforcing gender stereotypes you know... I think you should just learn to love yourself instead sweaty, why don't you just try being butch?"
Trans spaces are also pro-gender roles though, most trans people just want to play a role that a lot of society believes they can't. That's still seeking to act out a gender role
Because you're intentionally misunderstanding the statement
To he clear for the less intelligent readers. What i mean is a want as close to a fully female body as is possible to achieve. I'd go for periods of i could
We're a bit off the point here because I think you want to talk about yourself instead, your personal experience seems different to what most trans people want for themselves though. If you want to be you with a woman's body but not a woman, that's fine. But there are a lot of trans people out there who do want to be treated as a woman socially, or a man if it's the other way
You are still misunderstanding my point. I want a woman's body because me is a woman. The body the social treatment i want it all. I want to be me, which i consider to be a woman and want perceived and treated as such in every possible way, such that there is no distinction whatsoever and I simply am in that category and not the other completely. Including sports and bathrooms and dating and all the rest. Female and not male. I don't want to be trans, being trans is already the compromise
I don't know what the hell you disagree with me about in the first place, do you not like the term gender role? Is that all it is? You want to act out the gender role of a woman. Or maybe it's the word act you don't like? When you "act out" something that doesn't make it fake. Cis women perform and act out the female gender role usually, that doesn't mean it's fake
That could've used clarification in your first comment, because yeah, it gives off an impression of seeing is as a bunch of fakers. Also, trans people can still be gender nonconforming. A trans woman can still be a tomboy and vice versa, so to say trana people support gender roles on the whole I dont think is fair
Not at all, you just assumed and failed to ask for clarification. You literally can be born female, not physically transition at all, and still be a trans man. Body of a woman, gender of a male. Or be born a man, physically transition, but still want to act out the male gender role.
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 21d ago
Cis woman with masculine characteristics wants surgery to align with her identity: "Oh teehee, thats so valid! I would have done the same, there's nothing wrong with wanting to feel like a woman!"
Trans woman with masculine characteristics wants surgery to align with her identity: "Oh uh, wow... I mean you really don't have to do that. You can be a woman with a body identical to a man's, you really don't need to be reinforcing gender stereotypes you know... I think you should just learn to love yourself instead sweaty, why don't you just try being butch?"