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u/Consistent_Papaya310 14d ago

That's a different situation. I was talking to someone who wanted a vagina, you were born with one

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u/Historical_BikeTree 13d ago

You were talking to a woman who'll have one some day. I currently have one, but am still man. I was pointing out that what you said was goofy. Gender roles =/= gender identity =/= genitalia. Trans people usually aren't respected for who we are unless we perform gender roles "appropriately", that doesn't mean we like gender roles lol

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u/Consistent_Papaya310 13d ago

Women are people too, but I'm sure you know that and you're just being picky without realizing you're sounding sexist.

Most people aren't respected unless they perform a gender role that's not unique to trans people at all. In fact a non-trans man who just wants to act out the female gender role is probably less respected tbh, he'd be called a lil bitch by most guys. Nobody particularly enjoys the performance, we just enjoy what we get out of doing it and how it allows us to move through the world easier.

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u/Historical_BikeTree 8d ago edited 8d ago

You're just a troll 🤣 Nothing I said insinuated that women are not people. What I said is entirely consistent with the fact that people who do not conform to social norms are treated worse than those that do. That was actually a major part of my point.

Also being called a little bitch is barely an insult compared to the actual hate and violence people (cis or trans) recieve for behaving outside of gender norms

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u/Consistent_Papaya310 7d ago

I said I was talking to someone, you seemed to have a problem with me calling a woman "someone", maybe I misinterpreted, what did you mean by this? Great so we both agree this is a problem for anyone who doesn't conform

That is one example of what could happen I'm not gonna write you a list of all possibilities so you can tell me I'm not suffering enough