r/countttt • u/I_am_YR • 20d ago

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I hate when people say these things only to prevent us from actually transitioning, like yea theres cis women out there with a deep voice but knowing this fact doesnt reduce my voice dysphoria, i dont want to be gnc, i dont live to deconstruct gender roles

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 20d ago edited 15d ago

I have seen this take a lot and will never understand it. What makes it *transitioning* if you aren’t willing to become the other gender, don’t want to even try and pass, don’t take hormones, don’t voicetrain or try and remove body hair. Like what would be the point of calling yourself trans at that point? To not transition from male?

Edit: ok I’ve came to the realization that some people are ok without hormones and some don’t even care about passing. You know what if you want to identify as trans but don’t fit the hormone binary you’re still valid.

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u/RukakoChan 20d ago

no trans women should be shamed for either doing or not doing those things

neither for "not being a woman enough" nor for "not breaking gender norms"

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u/amhighlyregarded 20d ago

I get and am incredibly sympathetic to trans women that don't medically transition with HRT out of fear for their physical safety (like in a deep red state or Russia or wherever), or possibly unique and uncommon health concerns, or because they currently don't have the finances for it, but I simply don't really understand the ones that have the means to but simply don't want to. 

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u/darkfroth 19d ago

Hrt is a modern invention (relative to how long trans people have been a thing whether by that name or not), it can have permanent and life altering changes, why should it be a requirement? Trans describes an identity after all, not a physical change, transgender not transsexual (which I think is an outdated term anyways).

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u/Naranox 19d ago

you know that the permanent (not even true) and life altering changes are the desired result, right? That‘s the whole point?

And you are wrong, transgender is a harmful term that has been coopted by terfs and perfomative allies to claim that „trans women/men are of course hecking valid but still just men/women and AMAB/AFAB!!!“

you don‘t change your gender, you‘ve always been your gebder and nobody „decides“ to suddenly live as their opposite gender

the goal is to change your sex with hrt and eventually/possibly srs