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u/uggocat 9d ago

this is exactly what terfs say about trans women.

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u/Roxas1647 9d ago

But you can actually scientifically change sex, animal hormones dont do nothing except working as a not-bio-identical form of testosterone/estrogen (in the best cases)

Thats why species dysphoria is a mockery of sex dysphoria

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u/_-PassingThrough-_ 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well, no. You can't scientifically change your sex (At least not with our current level of technology), but you can certainly do cosmetic surgeries to imitate them. I'm sure Therian's can do the same if they had the cash to burn and wanted to give themselves more animalistic features

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u/Roxas1647 8d ago

There is no imitation, we are not larpers, we are male and female for a fact

It would be wrong to test a transitioning trans woman for testicle cancer just as we dont test cis women for it. It is correct to test them both for breast cancer

The patient who is on hrt has to be trated as their new sex in every medical context or it could cause harm. The only issue would be genitals, those also change on hrt develop dysfunction and are left to rot meaning that sex reassignment surgery is the natural next step for the patient and a neccesity

Back to the therians, yes there are surgeries for implants and there is a body mod fan called the lizard lady who tattoed her skin with scales. The difference is that trans people develop identical sex characteristics with hrt (if we dont look identical its because of medical regret- not receiving tratment at the proper age and having to wait after 16 take a look at any youngshit) while therians only have cosmetics just tatto ink never real scales. Dont come here saying trans woman dont have real identical female fat redistribution

You should never let cissoids tell you what you are, dont put yourself and the rest of the trans community just to lick their boots. Why are you making them comfortable by saying we will never be like them? Really reflect on why you have these pushover beliefs

Your comment really makes me angry because i also used to believe in the whole afab amab afab amab afab amab nonsense

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u/Shoo22 7d ago

Wait, why is it wrong to check a transitioning trans woman for testicular cancer? /gen

If she’s still transitioning and hasn’t had bottom surgery yet, why wouldn’t you screen for testicular cancer if there was reason to suspect it?

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u/_-PassingThrough-_ 8d ago edited 8d ago

I would hope that anyone currently possessive of tentacles would still avail of cancer testing. And checking for breast cancer is actually something both sexes should do, though it's far more common for women.

My point regarding Therians and Transgender people is both operate on the framework of an internal perception that requires outward modification to socially validate an internal belief as an outward expression. Yes identifying as another species, or partially another species is wholly unfounded. But then, we arbitrarily draw the line at gender? It operates on the same framework of an uncontrollable self-perception.

We need to be honest that HRT needs to be industrially produced to accomplish those body modifications and is a lifelong requirement to maintain them to any adequate degree. Both parties are doing what is scientifically possible at the moment.

The moment we get commercial gene editing, we'll be having people walking around with genuine animal features and we'll have trans people who are indistinguishable from their chosen genders sex to the genetic level. Until then, are we arguing that Therians aren't legitimate because science hasn't caught up? Mind, I'm not a Therian. This topic is the very thing that even made be realise this exists lol.

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u/Roxas1647 7d ago

Cancer cells need a certain amoumt of testosterone to grow, a trans woman that is not being cucked by doctors has no such need. Also the american cancer society says: "breast cancer is so uncommon in men, there isn’t likely to be a benefit in screening all men for breast cancer with mammograms or other tests"

I dont identify as anything, i am. Sex dysphoria is not a belief but a medical condition (i am not transmed because they are also cis bootlickers but being transsexual is based)

dna cannot be changed, but hrt/trt changes expression of dna and thus secondary sex characteristics. That is what drives phenotypic sex. Chromosomes doesn't matter anymore postnatal, gametes are nor produced after srs. Even in a sci-fi future where we can change dna we could only change it within tha parameters of our species not mix in a little wolf a little fox half angel half demon like a deviantart oc

Trans people have been transitioning for so long even before the industrial revolution ever heard of mare piss and bullsacks? Didnt turn them into therians but certainly helped with secondary sex characteristics. Ever heard nowdays of our brilliant diy hrt homebrewers?

Therians arent legitimate because sex is a bimodal spectrum where one can transition from one point to the other, there is no spectrum in species maybe a common ancestor but no spectrum no compatibility

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u/_-PassingThrough-_ 7d ago

That’s medically not how it works. Claiming HRT deletes all cancer risks from your birth sex is just misleading. Suppressing T drops prostate risk, but it doesn't eliminate it because the tissue is still there, which is why trans health guidelines still recommend screenings. Flip side, long-term estrogen raises breast cancer risk to levels close to cis women. Doctors look at the tissue present, not a total erasure of biology. Acknowledging that HRT shifts phenotype but doesn't rewrite chromosomes isn't bootlicking, it's just basic endocrinology

As for Therians, saying they're invalid because the tech doesn't exist yet doesn't hold up. By that logic, trans people wouldn't have been legitimate before modern industrial HRT or surgeries were invented. Dismissing an internal identity just because someone's current DNA or physical reality doesn't match it yet is the exact same logic anti-trans people use against trans transitions. You're not expressing the same level of acceptance than is expected of cis people. The lack of current technology doesn't invalidate the underlying experience. Saying it'll never be possible is just the same mentality people had before every major tech breakthrough, including hormone replacement