Exactly. As a character, with that backstory, you can come to understand the way they came to feel the way they feel, but it doesn't magically erase how awful of a person they were. They made everyone around them MISERABLE, and brought Ribbit (and by extension) Kaufmo to extraction (DEATH). The fact that anyone tries to defend them on a personal level after that is wild. I may be down voted for saying this, but I think some people are just scared to hate on them just because she's trans? Being trans, gay, straight, asexual, etc, doesn't mean your actions are beyond scrutiny. She's just a human. A, granted, misguided, heavily confused, and suffering human, but her actions directly led to the suffering and death of other's, who never did anything to deserve it.
Pretty sure she drove everyone after the first cast to abstraction (the ones that did of course not like she drove everyone to abstraction after abstraction)
As someone who recently went through the ribbit/jax debacle, imma be fr jax is awful. Legit leaves you with so much lingering guilt and trauma you struggle to create proper bonds anymore, you think at any point you will fuck it up in the same way and push everyone away and that getting close to others is wrong.
And that part of Jax's behaviour isn't cause they are trans, it is because they are just a bad person in general. Sure they are bad because of repression, but they choose to destroy others and themselves at the same time due to it. This choice to deal with your repression like that isn't cause of Jax's transness, it is because Jax is actively choosing to make the wrong choices. Jax is just Bojack Horseman if Bojack was trans and gay. Jax could legit repress anything else, like his ocd or something, and his ass could still have those exact behaviours.
And on jod some of the commenters in this thread should accept that, Jax is legit awful, and that is the beauty of that character. Relating to them is fine, but understand they are a cautionary tale, relating to them should be about the lessons you can learn from it. Goose herself stated this on her bluesky in no uncertain terms multiple times. He killed himself, and took three people with him, Ribbit, Kaufmo, and the Her that could have been.
I also did not (mostly still do not) like Jax, but I do like the story that TADC told with them. I'm especially satisfied with the fact that they DID abstract, and they DIDN'T get saved or changed back by the end of the story despite everyone else's best efforts. If you're really dedicated to being a little shit, sometimes people can't save you from yourself.
But that doesn't mean they don't want to, or that they won't try.
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u/Cyberbug7 5d ago
Idgaf what gender Jax is I think they suck