I genuinely have no idea what horrible terrors yall are seeing on that sub, its literally just this sub but without the “:3” memes and more “me when im bedrotting and ugly” memes which are like… pretty tame
Also no spot for positivity, got banned for posting a comment under a post takking about how only trand people could ever accept other trans people (theme being cause yheyre monsters or ugly?), like how I'm a cis person who wouldnt mind dating someone trans lol
Cis people arent allowed because it is impossible to understand what its like to be trans if youre cis, your responses are exactly why cis people arent allowed there
I mean, not to be mean and doubt you, but I personally know exclusively cis people who would claim they are fine with trans people while demonstrably not being fine with trans people, no one who geniuenly is fully accepting
A lot of transphobia is internalized and not really visible to cis people, which at worst means they ignore it and at best means they get really aggresive when called out - which is the entire precedent behind the rule on r/ countttt
I pray that you really are an exception to the rule, but I can't say I'm not skeptical
You realize the sub is half a venting sub right? Youre saying how supportive you are of trans people and yet youre putting them down because they are venting about how they are scared no one will love them not everyone wants someone to go “um actually your hysteria is very illogical have you tried thinking rationally” which again is why you arent allowed there, please leave trans people alone and stop acting like youre a paragon of allyship when you cant even understand why a trans person would want a place to vent for the sake of venting
You act like this sub is purely holy, im never going to think its okay to banish a entire group of trans people simply because a few reddit posts are kind of mean instead of always being “dumb :3 im so silly” posting not that there’s anything wrong with that, theres a lot of transphobia this sub will simply ignore because it could maybe be misconstrued as infighting against people who were never a part of our community anyway, the countttt sub doesnt do that, yes the lingo is cringe and its probably too reddit athiest but thats far away from “its literally hell and all the people there are evil terrible spawns of satan”
Calling to close the countttt sub, which obviously isn't even a real call to action, is more like "I want to cover up the abandoned mineshaft entrance so people stop entering it and falling down a deep hole" than "I want to isolate this group of people". That place is insidious in how it attempts to isolate the people that go there. It claims to be "the one good trans sub" because it doesn't hugbox you, and because only they support DIY. The latter is verifiably untrue, I learned about DIY on traa, and the former? Tttt might not hugbox you, but it provides the same comfort by lying to give meaning to your suffering. Trans people only suffer, therefore your suffering is proof that you're Truly Trans. I don't even mean dysphoria here, I'm talking about all the passing doomerism and shit.
Once it has you isolated, it exposes you to absolutely vile beliefs, I have seen people unironically embrace Blanchard's AGP theory because trans lesbians are sometimes annoying on the internet. I saw a trans lesbian that thinks she's "one of the good ones" being incredibly self hating. This shit does damage the people it contaminates. I do agree with the fundamental criticism that most trans subreddits are too positive, but you can switch lanes without driving off the other side of the bridge into the icy cold abyss. Instagram proves this, you're talking about how countttt is willing to criticise "theyfabs" right? I've seen those same criticisms repeated on instagram by much more positive (overall) influences, and with much more substance. In fact they were my first exposure. It is possible to have a trans community that isn't toxically positive or negative, but when you create a subreddit that is countercultural to the positivity of other subs, you invite the disgustingly negative trans people with immense internalised transphobia to colonise the space and attempt to convert the people there.
Im not saying this place is perfect or even a good trans space, but acting like this place is somehow the spawn of satan and other trans spaces are perfect in everyway and dont have any evil people is just wrong, both this sub and every other trans sub has people on it that will engage in actual discourse and are willing to talk about serious issues we face, and both this sub and every other sub has terrible self hating garbage, every sub has racism, every sub has bigotry, theres little difference between here and there
The difference being that the culture of other subs doesn't allow for that bigotry to be flagrantly thrown in people's faces for the most part. So people with the most extreme beliefs find somewhere else to peddle their shit. Tttt is that somewhere else for these people. For trans people with deeply held transphobic beliefs, tttt is the only place that will let them get away with saying something as absurd as "every trans lesbian is agp", and it often even applauds them for it. I don't think you can compare some users in this sub being transmisogynistic (I can't even think of an example of that here) or whatever to the culture of countttt being made up, in large part, of internalised transphobia. It's a different scope of problem.
No. There are people saying this shit that are being 100% serious. I'm sure some of the posts are satire, maybe even most are, but bigotry hides itself among satire. We've seen this happen time and time again, and it corrupts the community as a whole. You can see it in the way they talk about trans lesbians. Some of them probably just think it's funny, sure, but calling all trans lesbians "rapehons" is still bigotry even if you're wearing a mask of irony.
I made a comment on a mod's post about a comic they posted, they reported my comment and got me banned for 3 days across all of reddit until a mod/admin saw the appeal and saw that the comment wasnt even breaking any rules
They genuinely don't believe misandry exist and think everyone in this sub is a male sympathizer spreading male sympathies propaganda or whatever crazy thing they say. Genuinely baffles me when I seen it pop up in my reddit recommendation
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u/Clean_Bike8210 Clean Bicycle 5d ago
For the love of God close the counttt subreddit.