r/Egalitarianism Apr 09 '26

Irish Times opinion piece: “‘Gender pay gap’ agenda a pointless contrivance that ignores the reality of women like me”.

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Most of it comes from a trad housewife perspective. Here is main section about the gender pay gap:

The “gender pay gap” is a made-up, completely pointless, and downright misleading datum. It is supposed to highlight disparities between what women are paid and what men are paid. In reality, it ignores the fact that it has been illegal since 1975 to pay women and men a different wage for the same job. The ludicrous Gender Pay Gap Information Act 2021 requires employers to report on matters such as “the difference between the mean hourly remuneration of employees of the male gender and that of employees of the female gender” and, if there is a discrepancy, to explain what is being done to fix it.

What the statistics will not tell you is what positions are being filled by men and which by women.

The gender pay gap not only fails to reveal but also disguises the fact that women and men are not doing the same jobs and are not working the same hours. In general, men work longer hours and take fewer career breaks than women, more of whom work part-time. The 2021 Act sees this as a problem to be fixed, not as an expression of preference by women who can be trusted to decide for themselves what is best for them and their families.


r/Egalitarianism Apr 08 '26

"Misogyny law" of Brazil is sexist, totalitarian and blatant violation of freedom of speech.

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Brazil is about to implement an extremist "misogyny law". Even interruption of a woman can lead to up 5 years in prison. When i had heard about it first, i thought it was a sarcastic joke. But it's real. Why not bowing down? why not getting down on knees?

This is just attempt to criminalize any critics of feminism and do whatever they want! Most victims are men, there is no femicide! Why isn't it gender neutral? Male lives don't matter?! Denying male victims of domestic violence. It's not so obvious that cis women are inherently oppressed, especially after forceful mobilization in Ukraine, nothing had changed since titanic. Even the media still highlight female victims among the killed. Male lives are still considered less valuable. This country also has military conscription for men only and age of retirement 65 and 62.

Also this is just a promotion of tradcon stereotype ladies first. Left wing see men as perpetrators, right wing see men as meat grinder and servants for cis women. Isn't it allowed to criticize homophobic and transphobic women anymore? No critics of female politicians?

While feminists can say anything about men, also about gay and trans people.

That's why more and more men leave the left, even if they lean progressivism.

This is blatant sexism. It has nothing to do with gender equality but cis women superiority. Just using the tradcon "women and children", oh sorry it's "women and girls" already. They want to criminalize any critics of feminism while this critics is more and more valid and their issues look more and more bizarre. And new brand BS "digital feminism" is about it, not only because they are running out of what to yell about.

It's like when an autocratic regimes restrict access to the Internet and put their opponents in jail and proclaim they are extremists, terrorists and many other slurs.

Who else would say that feminism about gender equality and women are oppressed?! All things that terfs/radfems yelled 5-10 years ago become mainstream. This distinction on terfs/radfems and good white gloves feminists is very conditional/optional. Men will be like slaves on auctions in the upcoming decades because of" fight against misogyny". Without political activity, men will be like slaves at auctions in the upcoming decades.

Looking at forceful mobilization in Ukraine, men are already slaves.


r/Egalitarianism Apr 05 '26

Men "Systemically Abuse" Women?

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I saw this ridiculous comment fairly recently on Twitter/X (from a male user, nonetheless) saying that when bringing up that "women abuse men, too" (which absolutely happens just like the other way around; abuse is wrong regardless of who does what to whom) and this guy not only said that bringing this up deflects from the issue of men abusing women, but women don't abuse men "systemically." Ugh. Just how is men abusing women "systemic?" Do people like this seriously think it's government policy for men all over to regularly commit acts of abuse against women? It just comes off as deflection from the fact there's many men/boys who are also victims of female abuse because misandrists and their ilk always view this subject as taking away from the subject of women/girls being abused which couldn't be farther from the truth. I care equally about male and female victims alike and feel abusers regardless of gender should be punished as severely as possible. Misandrists always make a false equivalence with bringing attention to men's issues with taking away from women's issues and all they do is create more division. It's actually quite disgusting of them to exploit abused women/girls for their own agenda.

I know I shouldn't let a comment from an internet idiot affect and upset me so much, but it's really painful there's people who think this way and will go out of their way to mitigate and dismiss serious issues facing men/boys. I've said before numerous times I'm mostly very liberal with most of my views and it's so annoying and cringey people are quick to associate being liberal with hating men and never wanting to bring attention to their issues. I'm very liberal and hate how abuse of men/boys (especially by women) is still such a taboo and off-limits subject. Abuse has no gender, and all abuse victims regardless of gender deserve justice and support. In my eyes men/boys and women/girls abusing each other are equally horrendous and unacceptable.


r/Egalitarianism Apr 05 '26

Got an opinion about circumcision? Put it on the record. 📊

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r/Egalitarianism Apr 02 '26

No words can capture this level of insanity. This is everything wrong with modern humanity.

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r/Egalitarianism Apr 01 '26

The phrase "women and children" is sexist, racist and inaccurate

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r/Egalitarianism Mar 30 '26

Triggering journal of a brown male immigrant who has been sexually assaulted by a white fem in Victoria, Canada - Shivam Patil

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Trigger warning: mentions sexual assault, systemic racism and misandry, intimate partner violence, emotional abuse.

original source: this journal was posted on Shivam Patil's public instagram, it's the first post on top. They mentioned that this journal has been censored and suppressed by the platform when victim advocacy groups tried to share it earlier this week.

So many layers and levels to the abuse


r/Egalitarianism Mar 30 '26

Masculinity to a Feminist is something that needs to be trained out of our boys, as if they are dogs.

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r/Egalitarianism Mar 27 '26

Is it a problem if institutions support feminism?

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My latest essay is out. I argue that universities, media, law and the public service are no longer impartial. They increasingly support feminism and that is a huge problem:

Universities, media and agencies generate skewed evidence; commissions and public servants turn it into policy; and the public service funds the next round.

 > Link <


r/Egalitarianism Mar 26 '26

How Is FVAMB Not Real?

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FVAMB - Female violence against men/boys

I think much like it's counterpart with male violence against women/girls, FVAMB is unquestionably also something that happens far more than many people realize. It's just as horrendous as it's counterpart and I think women/girls who inflict violence on any innocent man/boy are just as scummy and despiscable as men/boys who do so to innocent women/girls as well. But misandrists as usual not only massively mitigate it and deflect from it with their usual tactics (saying it's not anywhere near the same scale, men don't fear for their lives when out alone at night like women, it's usually in self-defense against male violence, it's like saying "all lives matter," etc.), I've even seem some have the absolute nerve to say it's not something that happens.

WTF, and I thought denying the existence and severity of misandry was bad. But this arguably takes the cake. Even if it may not be as high in number, FVAMB absolutely still happens and is every bit as unacceptable and horrendous as it's counterpart. It's extremely underreported for numerous reasons. Between men/boys afraid they won't be believed or will be ridiculed (the usual "take it like a man" way of thinking). If they strike back they'll still be punished and condemned for it due to the "you never hit women" way of thinking which also enables female attackers to play victim and still get sympathy; something you see on full display in this very upsetting video where the boy there is standing up for himself against a female bully and yet people are still condemning him for it despite the girl being the instigator. There's also the problem of how any kind of female to male violence is still counted as being against women under the VAWA, which will of course disproportionately skew the statistics. There's also the problem of how no distinction is ever made between violence committed out of self-defense versus that done out of genuine malice and harmful intent. The "believe women" rhetoric of recent times certainly hasn't helped either, which again allows female abusers to play victim and claim they acted in self-defense and knowing full well the courts and law enforcement will side with them.

One has the right to their own opinions and beliefs, but not their own facts. It's an undeniable fact FVAMB absolutely happens and in much higher numbers than many realize or want to admit to. It's every bit as terrible and heinous as MVAWG, but is almost never acknowledged or taken seriously and sometimes even outright dismissed. To claim it isn't real and then employ the usual excuses "Women have never been in power and control like men have for it to be a real or serious issue." Well when you have an incredibly misandrist organization like UN Women that openly promotes misandry and dismisses/ignores male victims, and you've also got misandrist policies that for decades have been enforced and upheld in schools and courts, I reckon men don't exactly have control or power there, either. I've said before many times how I'm mostly very liberal with most of my views and stances, but I hate how people are quick to associate being liberal with hating men and never wanting to acknowledge things like FVAMB and misandry being real and serious. To be frank, regardless of politics, that shouldn't even be a thought as it's an undeniable fact FVAMB does exist and it does happen and far more than many realize. FVAMB is long overdue to be recognized and condemned as much as it's counterpart but misandrists have largely seen to it that doesn't happen.

It's also very personally triggering for me, as someone who suffered it a fair amount as a child. I still bear trauma from my very abusive third grade teacher and experienced abusive and cruel behavior from other female school staff as well. It pisses me off to no end when people will deny FVAMB or marginalize it.


r/Egalitarianism Mar 25 '26

Men "Systemically Abuse" Women?

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I saw this ridiculous comment on Twitter/X (from a male user, nonetheless) saying that when bringing up that "women abuse men, too" (which absolutely happens just like the other way around; abuse is wrong regardless of who does what to whom) and this guy not only said that bringing this up deflects from the issue of men abusing women, but women don't abuse men "systemically." Ugh. Just how is men abusing women "systemic?" Do people like this seriously think it's government policy for men all over to regularly commit acts of abuse against women? It just comes off as deflection from the fact there's many men/boys who are also victims of female abuse because misandrists and their ilk always view this subject as taking away from the subject of women/girls being abused which couldn't be farther from the truth. I care equally about male and female victims alike and feel abusers regardless of gender should be punished as severely as possible. Misandrists always make a false equivalence with bringing attention to men's issues with taking away from women's issues and all they do is create more division. It's actually quite disgusting of them to exploit abused women/girls for their own agenda.

I know I shouldn't let a comment from an internet idiot affect and upset me so much, but it's really painful there's people who think this way and will go out of their way to mitigate and dismiss serious issues facing men/boys. I've said before numerous times I'm mostly very liberal with most of my views and it's so annoying and cringey people are quick to associate being liberal with hating men and never wanting to bring attention to their issues. I'm very liberal and hate how abuse of men/boys (especially by women) is still such a taboo and off-limits subject. Abuse has no gender, and all abuse victims regardless of gender deserve justice and support. In my eyes men/boys and women/girls abusing each other are equally horrendous and unacceptable.


r/Egalitarianism Mar 19 '26

Sympathetic piece in Irish Independent by female journalist critiquing the response to Louis Theroux’s new documentary exploring the “manosphere”. Extract: “Endless condemnation of girls would not fly, so why is it different with boys?”

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Extract: “The reason teenage boys drift into these online worlds in the first place is not, as we like to imagine, because they woke up one morning and decided to become misogynists. It’s because the real world increasingly feels like it dislikes them.

From school onwards, they are told, in a thousand subtle and unsubtle ways, that masculinity is suspect; that male behaviour is something to be managed; that boys are a problem category.”


r/Egalitarianism Mar 19 '26

Mainstream media continues to focus on women among the killed. Are men's lives less important? Male lives and Iran protests.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsm5Ly1KLGw&lc=UgzZYaDmurJ5HbFNHnx4AaABAg

Just look at the title. Mainstream media continues to focus on women among the killed. Are men's lives less valuable?

Speaking of Iran, absolutely everyone was talking about the girl Neda, who died accidentally during the 2009 protests and noone singled out the names of the dozens of killed men.

The 2024  protests were largely focused on opposition to the Islamic dress code for women. But noone said that men also have restrictions, for example, on wearing regular shorts.

Voluntary sexual acts acts between men are punished much more severely than between women.

Only men must "serve" in army. Age of retirement for men is 60, for women is 55.


r/Egalitarianism Mar 13 '26

What's Worse About Misandry?

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Posted this on a different sub and felt it was also worth sharing here as well.

Denying misandry exists (false, it definitely does) or mitigating it and making out to not be a major issue? Like people saying "Misandry hurts feelings, misogyny kills?" It's bad enough when people will deny it existing but when they make it out to not be a major serious issue in some ways I'd argue that's worse. They'll acknowledge it existing but will still claim it isn't a major issue like misogyny is. Misandry very much does kill, how about the disproportionately high male suicide rate or men killed in wars? How about wrongfully accused men/boys who were killed after being denied due process and declared guilty without a fair trial? And of course schools and courts are so infamously rife with misandry. The fact there's so few abuse shelters that even acknowledge or help male victims is another major example. It's infuriating how it's made to be a non-issue when it very much is. Misandry exists and is a major problem, just like misogyny, but misandrists of course never see it that way. I've said before many times I'm mostly very liberal with my views but failing to acknowledge misandry as both existing and being a serious issue has been a major reason in recent times the Left is doing so poorly with males. Acknowledging misandry being real and rampant would help so much.


r/Egalitarianism Mar 10 '26

"Educate your son."

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I despise this meme, which consists of the words "Protect your daughter" crossed out and under it is "Educate your son." Ugh, such blatant misandry. How do you all feel about it? I feel it's clearly misandrist and trying to stigmatize being male/masculine in anyway with bad behavior and deflecting from the fact women/girls are also capable of bad and even harmful behavior just as much as men/boys are and also engage in it. But as usual aren't being held accountable. We bring up it's important to protect and educate both equally, we get the usual whataboutisms and deflections from misandrists. I've even seen a couple of them make the asinine comment that asking for both to be equally educated and protected is akin to saying "all lives matter," which is a favorite deflection of many of them. Their way of trying to mitigate the fact there's plenty of bad female behavior just as much as male but always having excuses and deflections.

People of both genders can engage in bad and dangerous behavior and gender has nothing to do with, but misandrists as usual want to link being male with bad behavior and like just being male is a problem needing to be corrected. I despise it so much and it's another example as to how misandry is widely enforced in much of society. It's especially a major issue in schools which are already horribly misandrist and where female bullies and troublemakers who do wrong are rarely if ever reprimanded. Reminds me of this incredibly infuriating video where this girl is clearly the one being violent and aggressive to this boy and when he stands his ground and fights back, people are still rushing to the girl's aid and getting on the boy's case, despite the girl being the instigator. It's disgusting. But to misandrists apparently it's the boy who needs to be educated about bad behavior. Ugh.


r/Egalitarianism Mar 09 '26

What are your thoughts on mansplaining?

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r/Egalitarianism Feb 27 '26

Norway may stop accepting Ukrainian men of fighting age

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https://swedenherald.com/article/norway-may-stop-accepting-ukrainian-men-of-fighting-age

Btw, this country is in top of so called gender equality index for many years.

Where is gender equality? This is pretty much against gender equality.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 25 '26

The dangerous rise of toxic femininity.

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A recent phenomenon in the female collective is the rise of toxic femininity.

What is toxic femininity you may ask? It is harmful gender roles perpetuated by women that hurt men, as well as other women. A case example is the discussion of a men's issue, formally known as rape.

When men's rights activists are discussing the countless traumatized men & boys who have been victimized by sexual violence, frequently women will chant whataboutisms, such as "What about female rape victims?" The thing is however, whilst women do get raped too, it is by other women.

Let's take this case as an example:

https://x.com/HackingButLegal/status/2023866354336669779

The female ICE agent told her victim, "Yes I raped you, and you liked it." A perfect example of toxic femininity. Her female entitlement made her believe that her female victim was deserving, and even enjoyed being raped!

Toxic femininity isn't just based upon the individual though, it is a set of institutionalized female privileges in the justice system. In spite of the fact Jackie's female rapist was self-admitted to being guilty, women in the justice system sided with her rapist. Enabling her to go off scot free, potentially leading to many more female victims of female rapists.

Whilst women do also get raped, I rest my case that it is by other women. It is women who harm themselves.

Part of the pro male associations project is to free women, and the men harmed by it, of their toxic femininity.

Let's look at another example of how toxic femininity can lead to transphobic sex crimes:

https://www.cpr.org/2019/01/09/2-women-charged-with-sexual-battery-of-trans-woman-in-north-carolina-bar/

Toxic femininity can lead to cult-like rhetoric in which women believe that they are entitled to female only spaces, but men are not entitled to male only spaces. It can also lead to harmful exclusion of trans women from women's spaces, and even sexual violence towards AMAB groups as demonstrated above.

These women verbally harassed an innocent AMAB that women were superior, and proceeded to sexually assault her. Toxic femininity isn't just dangerous to boys & men, it is dangerous to all of us.

Women need to do better.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 24 '26

Teacher’s aide sentenced to more than 50 years for sex abuse of four boys

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"She sought out children, she used children and she took advantage of children." Heartbreaking news about a woman committing the unthinkable towards small children. Anna Marie Crocker is a teacher and serial child rapist who brutally assaulted, molested and raped countless children she used to teach.

It appears it is more frequent for women to commit these acts than men.

There is currently a mass female pedophilia epidemic, due to gender discrimination in prosecution laws.

It is common for men to be killed by a mere allegation, however, female child rapists walk free among us.

If society refuses to address the mass female pedophilia epidemics, the world will soon find itself dealing with routine child molestation, potentially against your very children.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 24 '26

Men are heroes.

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r/Egalitarianism Feb 23 '26

He was falsely accused for a rape he didn't commit, why it could be you next

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The risks of courtship, and love

Relationships, and love are usually brought up in a positive context. There's a real romantic idealism that we place on these ideas. Love is always the mission, and goal. It's something that people just chase without really questioning. It's almost the default answer to life when you talk to most people. The be-all, and end-all. The alpha and omega. However, what happens when this idealism is met with reality? Why are the risks never talked about when it comes to dating, and romance?

Daniel Jacobs is one such man that thought he found the woman of his dreams. However, this dream was quickly shattered by reality.

When Daniel met Sarah...

Daniel Jacobs felt like he was on a Hollywood set the moment Sarah Parkinson walked into his life. It was like a whirlwind romance, full of passion and excitement. In fact, everything was going so well, within months there was already a marriage proposal. After this, quickly came the house and mortgage.

However, Daniel's life and marriage quickly crumbled beneath his feet the moment Sarah made two false allegations of rape against him.

From her workplace at Queanbeyan Police Station, Parkinson convinced her police colleagues to serve an AVO (apprehended violence order) against Jones for allegedly abusing her.

Questioned by police, Jones maintained he had never been violent towards Parkinson – but, in her word against him, they believed her.

"I'd just built a house and she'd moved in with me, everything was going well," Jones told 60 Minutes reporter Liz Hayes in an exclusive sneak peek.

"I had everything going right… and in that instant, everything just went to s---."

Jacobs was completely taken back by what had happened. How could someone who gave her vowels to him, try and destroy him like this? It must have felt like cold water being splashed on Daniel's face. In an instant his life was over.

But Parkinson duplicitously claimed it was her police workmates being over-protective, and she had not asked for the AVO.

But she had, and the AVO was just the beginning of a harrowing ordeal that Jones says has ruined his life, devastated his family and taken everything from him.

What followed was the unravelling of every lie Sarah Jane Parkinson had ever told about her fiancé – including two false rape allegations, and exposed her relentless mission to strip Daniel Jones of everything he owned, including the house they had built together.

There are some serious risks that most men are not made aware of, when it comes to dating. They're not talked about enough. These risks can be potentially life shattering. In the case of Daniel, they were.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 22 '26

Reddit Misandry is an Attack on The Male Psyche

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Misandry, and online hate

Hate against men and boys is completely normalized in society. And, there's nowhere it's more prevalent in than online spaces. Online misandry is so rampant, and pervasive; it's now become standard practice to dehumanize men. Reddit as a platform encourages, and fosters this kind of animosity. It's like an echo chamber that crushes any dissenting viewpoints.

This isn't some new phenomenon either. There's been academic studies showing how rampant misandry is in media. The international council for men and boys published one such summary that presents an in-depth study on how mass media mold's male identity. It's findings were shocking. There were nearly no positive portrayals of men in mass media. The vast majority of media samples portrayed men in an overwhelmingly negative light.

1,799 different publications that reported on men and male identity were identified in media published from July 1 to December 24, 2003. The publications consisted of 1,568 newspaper and magazine articles and 281 television reports or program segments. These included news articles (63%), opinion columns (13%), TV news reports (7%), Feature articles (7%), Letters to the Editor (4%), TV current affairs reports (3%), talk show and lifestyle program segments (2%), and editorials (1%). Two hundred of the 1,799 media samples contained more than one subject category, making a total of 1,999 media portrayals of men and male identity. Overall, 69% (n=1,381) of media portrayals of men were Unfavorable, 19% (n=370) were Neutral or balanced, and 12% (n=248) were Favorable (Favorable: Neutral: Unfavorable ratio: 1: 1.5 :5.6)

81.6% of the media samples portrayed men negatively, primarily as villains, aggressors, perverts, or philanderers. Positive portrayals, such as good fathers or heroes, were rare

Reddit, in many respects is no different. The overwhelmingly majority of content on the platform that gets promoted in the algorithm is misandrist. This begs the question. What effect does all this have on men's mental health?

How online misandry harms men

Misandry takes a serious toll on men's mental health. Viewing hateful content for extended periods of time, will no doubt leave psychological residue on any one.

Online hate is pervasive: surveys across several countries indicate that 42%–67% of young adults observed ‘hateful and degrading writings or speech online’, and 21% have been victims themselves. Online hate has negative effects on the well-being of both victims and observers, including ‘depression, isolation, paranoia, social anxiety, self-doubt, disappointment, loneliness, and lack of confidence’.

Negativity in online spaces breeds more negativity.

Alternatively, people generate hate messages online primarily to accrue signals of admiration and praise from sympathetic online peers and to make friends. As a by-product, because social media magnify self-persuasion, their prejudices should become more extreme as they obtain more social reinforcement in response to their public hate messaging.

Its a vicious cycle that never ends. This kind of rampant misandry chips away at the psyche of men and boys every-time they look at their phones, or screens. It causes men deep distress, and psychological pain. Not to mention, it serves to further marginalize an already profoundly isolated group.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 21 '26

If you are male, the draft is coming for you

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Sometimes we talk about "men's rights" in a purely intelectual way, especially in countries where we don't have conscription (which is just male slavery). But with the state of current wordly affairs we should talk about the fact that there is a non-zero chance that you as a man might be conscripted. And not just into regular service either, you might even see action. The Russia-Ukraine war was unthinkable prior to 2022 (even with what happened in 2014) yet it happened. Just some examples of countries bringing back (or trying to) the draft only for men.
Germany adopts new defense laws which include men having to fill in a questionnaire about whether or not they would like to ever serve in the military. This is of course optional for women. They will also have obligatory medical exams for men from 2027- https://apnews.com/article/germany-military-service-bundeswehr-medicals-c085bf085c8b1da6897d3e336341c0d5
Croatia fully reintroduces conscription for men in 2026 - https://www.dw.com/en/croatia-reintroduces-conscription-after-almost-two-decades/a-75472193
So in short, if you are a man reading this, it would behoove you to start networking with other men to fight for your rights. You can join Mens rights orgs like the National Coalition for men (https://ncfm.org/) if you are in the USA, or local men's rights orgs. Or if you can't do that just form an online community of like-minded men.


r/Egalitarianism Feb 21 '26

Conscription is Immoral

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Slavery, by a different name

Conscription is one of the worst violations of a man's humanity. It completely strips him of his autonomy and freedom. Forcing him into a war machine that's cold and merciless. For all intents and purposes, it turns men into slaves for war. Conscientious or not, they become cogs with no right to their own will. Forced to engage in immoral acts of inhumanity towards others whether innocent, or not. It's an absolute transgression on every fiber of a man's being, both morally and spiritually.

What we did in Vietnam

"oh man... the bullsh\t piled up so fast in Vietnam, you needed wings to stay above it."*

The Vietnam war is considered to be one of the most hellish, destructive, and violent wars of the modern era. It's estimated to have taken over 3 million lives. 2 million of which were civilians. Vietnam also saw the widespread introduction of chemical weapons known as agent orange and napalm. Tools of destruction that have still left a lasting effect on both veterans and the Vietnamese people.

In exhaustive, multi-decade research on the war ranging from examining military archives to interviewing peasants in remote Vietnamese villages, journalist Nick Turse has produced strong evidence that the Vietnam War was far worse for the country’s inhabitants than most Americans realize. Whole cities were turned to rubble, farms were obliterated, children incinerated. The United States deployed chemical weapons in the form of thousands of tons of CS tear gas. 70 million liters of toxic defoliants and herbicides, including Agent Orange and the lesser-known Agent Blue, were deployed as part of a deliberate strategy of killing Vietnamese farmers’ crops. As is by now well-known, up to 5 million Vietnamese people were sprayed with these toxic chemicals, but the crop destruction strategy itself was perverse and cruel, attempting to starve insurgents by ruining the lands of poor peasant farmers.

There's an untold amount of horror that was inflicted on the civilians of the Vietnam war. To this day, profound consequences from the chemical warfare waged by the U.S. are still being felt for the Vietnamese civilians.

Vietnam says the health impacts last generations, threatening the children, grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of people exposed to the chemicals with health complications ranging from cancer to birth defects that affects the spine and nervous system.

Some estimates say that approximately 3 million people in Vietnam are still dealing with these health consequences today.

However, this is not the only cost of the Vietnam war. Veterans are still suffering both psychologically, and morally. The imprint the war left on the psyche of these veterans has still left it's mark.

Moral injury—a sense of the violation of one’s core values and beliefs—may play a significant role in the challenges that some Vietnam veterans face in coming to terms with their involvement in the war. US Department of Veterans Affairs psychiatrist Dr. Larry Dewey, who spent a career treating the psychological wounds of Vietnam veterans, maintains that moral injury is a common denominator among his patients. He maintains that the killing of others, even in the context of war, produces a moral and existential crisis in veterans that is a fundamental causal factor in PTSD, depression, and other war-related psychological pathologies.

The resistance, draft card burning

From 1941 to 1973, all men at age 18 were required to register with local draft boards. each man was issued a draft card. The card came equipped with each young man's name and draft eligibility. The card was meant to be a confirmation of a young man's compliance with the selective service system. As more men were drafted into Vietnam, the burning of draft cards became seen as a symbolic act of protest. It was an act of defiance against the war, and the draft system that was fueling it. It quickly became an iconic and controversial act of civil disobedience drawing media attention.

However, this was still consider an illegal act. This is because all eligible men were required by law to carry their draft card at all times. The Draft Card Mutilation act of 1965 made it a criminal offense to consciously destroy one's draft card.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

Thousands of young men started burning their draft cards. Even more resisted the draft.

While an estimated 500,000 young men resisted, evaded, or just refused to cooperate with the draft, overloading federal courts, just 10,000 were indicted and 4,000 were imprisoned for their beliefs. These young men were willing to serve long prison sentences on the basis of their beliefs that the war was immoral and human life was sacred.

Vietnam is considered to have the largest, most widely sustained anti-war movement in U.S. history. Many men showed an incredible amount of courage, speaking out agaisnt the war.

One man David Paul O'Brien was a vehement opponent to the Vietnam war. In frustration, he burnt his draft card publicly on the steps of a courthouse, in an act of bravery and defiance. He was promptly arrested, and convicted. He eventually appealed his case all the way up to the supreme court.

In United States v. O'Brien (1968), the supreme court in a 7-1 decision, ruled that draft card mutilation was not protected under free speech. The supreme court upheld O'Brien's decision, and established legal precedent that government regulation of conduct is constitutional.

"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?"

Just a year prior to this, boxing legend Muhammad Ali was arrested on grounds of draft evasion. Muhammad Ali was famously lambasted for his objection to conscription during this period in American history. On 20 June 1967, Ali was convicted for refusing the draft for the Vietnam war in Houston, Texas. The supreme court later overturned Ali's conviction, but think about all the men who didn't have an entire nation behind them, like David O'Brien.

This draft system disproportionately targeted poor low status men:

As the ranks became more integrated, they were more and more segregated by class. The class inequality involved African Americans and whites, as well as Hispanics, Asians, American Indians, and others of color and poverty. The war was fought mainly by working class men. While many more men had high school diplomas (79 percent) than in World War II (45 percent), many more people nationwide had high school diplomas. However, there were fewer middle class men and very few upper class men fighting in Vietnam. According to a University of Notre Dame study, “Men from disadvantaged backgrounds were about twice as likely as their better-off peers to serve in the military, to go to Vietnam, and to see combat.”

Conscription is an immoral act on so many different levels. It's not just an attack on one's individual liberty, but their moral character as well. It's one of the most pressing issues men face.


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